Whore addiction

You’re most likely correct. The other issue is, even if by some small chance she doesn’t have tons of men in the rotation which she claims but is extremely dubious, the thought would always haunt me or any guy about her past if things progressed further. Personally I believe only a small percentage of whores can turn their life around, with only Saint Mary of Egypt type dedication.

I chatted with her last night and told her things don’t feel right and we should cut it off. She was not happy, considering she was planning all these events in the future or trying to. It is what it is. She’s mid 20s, very attractive, and works an industry where she meets tons of men, she shouldn’t have any problems meeting someone.

I told her about my turning towards the church, and she seemed curious, but like I wrote I need to save myself now.

These posts, with the exception of the blatant insult from that one member are helping, I do have a question for the group.

I believe a lot of this is a lifestyle, plenty of disposable income, and time issue. The post by the marine above recommending healthier activities is correct in my mind, I don’t think confession and 1 hour a week at church is going to cut it, so…

Can someone assist me in forming a faith schedule? Before you ask, yes I have spoken to my priest about this but the church I go to has limited activities. On the positive side they have a daily mass, but the groups for men my age or just social groups are lacking.

My thinking is I work 8-4, or 9-5. I usually lift after or before work but it leaves plenty of free time where I can get into trouble. I was finding myself with lots of free time and being socially isolated and lonely was what started this mess of going to a strip club. A combination of healthy activities that are ideally faith based would help me combat this. Reading scripture and prayer alone are positive as well, but I believe it is my social isolation that began this negative spiral.

I have friends of course, however they are not religious so the activities they recommend are typical like going to a casino. I don’t think that is positive either, so I’m envisioning something like planning a daily faith activity after work every day?

Are there programs like this or has someone done this? I need some type of partial to full immersion. Thank you.
this is a good idea.

Do you have any other hobbies? What about picking up a musical instrument and start taking lessons.
That's a good way to develop yourself.
 
@Recovering , I have also struggled with living isolated with too much free time. I'm glad you mentioned that this started when you were isolated since that means you're already looking at an important aspect of this. Find a hobby club of some kind; be it a ski ball field, some amateur sports league, a band to play in,  anything where you can work together some like minded folks in some way.

Some questions that might be worth asking yourself are: how are things at work? Do you have a role that's any bit fulfilling at all, however meaningless(or not) and do you get mutual respect with colleagues/clients/etc.? Are you around people you can be totally honest with in life? Do you have a goal or goals you feel like you're actually progressing towards?
These kinds of things matter, for we live not by bread alone.
 
@Recovering , I have also struggled with living isolated with too much free time. I'm glad you mentioned that this started when you were isolated since that means you're already looking at an important aspect of this. Find a hobby club of some kind; be it a ski ball field, some amateur sports league, a band to play in,  anything where you can work together some like minded folks in some way.

Some questions that might be worth asking yourself are: how are things at work? Do you have a role that's any bit fulfilling at all, however meaningless(or not) and do you get mutual respect with colleagues/clients/etc.? Are you around people you can be totally honest with in life? Do you have a goal or goals you feel like you're actually progressing towards?
These kinds of things matter, for we live not by bread alone.

These are good questions. So I lift and I also do Muay Thai, I am pretty physical which helps, however I am past the days of all day workouts. These hobbies are positive for sure.

Work wise…to be frank is mediocre. My main reason to stay in this job is the income, but it is a blessing and a curse. If I didn’t have the expendable income I would have never stepped foot in those clubs, but I did. Because my job pays me well, I didn’t care, now I finally am seeing the reality of the eye of a needle quote. Being successful and making money is fine, but it needs to be channeled properly. I obviously didn’t do that. Of course ideally a wife and kids would be the goal, but I have a long way to go.

I don’t find much meaning in the job, it is a fast paced company and we need to make the shareholders happy, a change would be good.

I don’t find many people I can be honest with about my life. I am in confession, but I hold a lot of things back. Look how judged and attacked I have been here by some members. But to that point I need to actively work on creating healthier social contacts. I have nothing in common with these nightlife or club people. It is not my thing.
 
These are good questions. So I lift and I also do Muay Thai, I am pretty physical which helps, however I am past the days of all day workouts. These hobbies are positive for sure.

Work wise…to be frank is mediocre. My main reason to stay in this job is the income, but it is a blessing and a curse. If I didn’t have the expendable income I would have never stepped foot in those clubs, but I did. Because my job pays me well, I didn’t care, now I finally am seeing the reality of the eye of a needle quote. Being successful and making money is fine, but it needs to be channeled properly. I obviously didn’t do that. Of course ideally a wife and kids would be the goal, but I have a long way to go.

I don’t find much meaning in the job, it is a fast paced company and we need to make the shareholders happy, a change would be good.

I don’t find many people I can be honest with about my life. I am in confession, but I hold a lot of things back. Look how judged and attacked I have been here by some members. But to that point I need to actively work on creating healthier social contacts. I have nothing in common with these nightlife or club people. It is not my thing.
You're blessed to earn well enough to support a family. A lot of guys can't say that. Unless you feel called to the priesthood having children is probably where you'll find meaning in your life. I recommend keeping Matthew 7:7-8 in mind and focusing your prayers on asking the Lord to bless you with a good wife and children.
 
You’re most likely correct. The other issue is, even if by some small chance she doesn’t have tons of men in the rotation which she claims but is extremely dubious, the thought would always haunt me or any guy about her past if things progressed further. Personally I believe only a small percentage of whores can turn their life around, with only Saint Mary of Egypt type dedication.

I chatted with her last night and told her things don’t feel right and we should cut it off. She was not happy, considering she was planning all these events in the future or trying to. It is what it is. She’s mid 20s, very attractive, and works an industry where she meets tons of men, she shouldn’t have any problems meeting someone.

I told her about my turning towards the church, and she seemed curious, but like I wrote I need to save myself now.

These posts, with the exception of the blatant insult from that one member are helping, I do have a question for the group.

I believe a lot of this is a lifestyle, plenty of disposable income, and time issue. The post by the marine above recommending healthier activities is correct in my mind, I don’t think confession and 1 hour a week at church is going to cut it, so…

Can someone assist me in forming a faith schedule? Before you ask, yes I have spoken to my priest about this but the church I go to has limited activities. On the positive side they have a daily mass, but the groups for men my age or just social groups are lacking.

My thinking is I work 8-4, or 9-5. I usually lift after or before work but it leaves plenty of free time where I can get into trouble. I was finding myself with lots of free time and being socially isolated and lonely was what started this mess of going to a strip club. A combination of healthy activities that are ideally faith based would help me combat this. Reading scripture and prayer alone are positive as well, but I believe it is my social isolation that began this negative spiral.

I have friends of course, however they are not religious so the activities they recommend are typical like going to a casino. I don’t think that is positive either, so I’m envisioning something like planning a daily faith activity after work every day?

Are there programs like this or has someone done this? I need some type of partial to full immersion. Thank you.
As Rooshv said , pray twice a day for 20 minutes in the morning and again at night . If Rooshv can change by prayer, then anybody can change .
 
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We’ll have to laugh. You’re (not your) a total toolbag from your writings. YOU are powerless in your own life and we can tell from your posts. Why else insult random members and act like some authority. That one post you wrote that was unbelievably vile and pornographic shows what an undeveloped spiritual man you are.



Yet the others are the arrogant ones? Piss off!




Laughing again, who is the arrogant one?




Wonderful, go back to the hole you came from.



You worship the Tate brother? Haha, yet you are spiritually developed? Go visit then in their Romanian prison, and join in.

Do not insult other members, including those who have been banned. Read the rules. 1-point friendly warning.
 
I chatted with her last night and told her things don’t feel right and we should cut it off. She was not happy, considering she was planning all these events in the future or trying to. It is what it is. She’s mid 20s, very attractive, and works an industry where she meets tons of men, she shouldn’t have any problems meeting someone.

I told her about my turning towards the church, and she seemed curious, but like I wrote I need to save myself now.
Bringing her to church isn't just for her. It's primarily for you - you will see who she is, you will understand her like a human being, you will come to recognize the root of your addiction.

That said, if you can cut her out completely then it is a good thing, but you must remember until you figure out the root of your addiction there is a high chance you'll relapse, either with her or another ho.

As for ending your social isolation in a meaningful way - I recommend social dancing. Any type of swing, salso, ballroom, or tango dance in your area? Pick it up, start practicing. It will give you a new skill and hobby to learn, a new place to make friends, and a potential avenue to meet a wife (with no alcohol!).
 
Bringing her to church isn't just for her. It's primarily for you - you will see who she is, you will understand her like a human being, you will come to recognize the root of your addiction.

That said, if you can cut her out completely then it is a good thing, but you must remember until you figure out the root of your addiction there is a high chance you'll relapse, either with her or another ho.

As for ending your social isolation in a meaningful way - I recommend social dancing. Any type of swing, salso, ballroom, or tango dance in your area? Pick it up, start practicing. It will give you a new skill and hobby to learn, a new place to make friends, and a potential avenue to meet a wife (with no alcohol!).
I would be careful with Latin American dancing. Some Orthodox sources advise against it, probably because it is so sensual and inflames the lusts and passions.
 
Threads like these are important.

Any man sharing his genuine vulnerabilities deserves a fair hearing and both encouragement and practical tips.

Even with the chance that such a poster is a troll or embellishing things, there are numerous other readers that can gain value from viewing these kind of threads. I used to think I was wasting my time responding to people who weren't "listening" but then I had others message me with encouraging feedback. We can also learn or solidify teachings for ourselves when writing and crafting a more measured piece.

It's also a good example of how, despite the tit-for-tat that goes on here (just like in all online male-dominated groups), the majority of members here have a genuine interest in helping other members in need, and that is something worth commending.

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Was reading through Galatians today and immediately thought of this thread:
Galatians 6:1 Brothers, even if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, each of you looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted. 2Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another. 5For each one will bear his own load.
 
After attempting to find the Lord and failing I fell into a state of loneliness because of the strict rules on celibacy. I reversed course and went wildly in the other direction and as an older man I began a relationship with a 24 year old woman who is promiscuous and works as a stripper. At first nothing would happen, but I got to know her and we began a sexual relationship. This entire scenario reminds of how much I’ve fallen, I remember I was the one who pushed everything, like evil spirits were guiding me.

We began having sex with protection, then one day out of the blue like a demon was speaking through me I said do you want to have sex without a condom, she says…yes of course we can do that. I warned myself I should be careful but I wasn’t and busted inside her. Now the scenario plays out exactly the same, she comes to my place or we meet somewhere and we have sex. The first time she was nonchalant and said oh don’t worry I’ll just go get plan B tomorrow, now she doesn’t even mention it and accepts my seed no questions asked.

I feel shame for what I am doing, but I can not stop. I confessed and my priest gave me such lame advice like chastity is important, yes father I know but what do you expect with these stupid rules on celibacy? We are told to procreate but the church woman are usually old and ugly or prudish. I would rather have kids and if it takes having them with a hot but promiscuous women so it is, I feel depressed and in the gutter my brothers in Christ but this is where I stand. I will keep having sex as a man should and avoid these strict rules and get nothing instead. The monk and priest life is for the very few and they have failed miserably too
can this woman be redeemed from a life of whoredom? In other words, by marriage to you? Do you care about this woman? Read the books of Hosea.
 
Haven't been on this forum in a long time, but have read most of the comments. I'll just say that the advice to bring her to church is sound; as Samsau has said, she'll either get saved (I know Orthos don't believe in a being saved as a one time event) or run which would be good for you either way. Not taking her to church is weak. You're a Christian. This woman according to you has expressed interest in spiritual matters. You need to tell her, we're going to church this Sunday or we're done then see what happens.

And I'll add, if she doesn't have a Catholic background it could be more difficult. Consider going to a non denominational conservative Protestant church. Why? Because it's an easier entry (no confusing liturgy) and the gospel is given clearly and not held back (assuming you find a good one....of course Protestantism runs the gamut even among conservative Bible believing churches). Hopefully she gets saved (born again) then you can switch her to Rome (you said she's uneducated so that should be easy :p. Just a joke!)

I'll pray for you and her.
 
I don't understand this captain save-a-ho stuff. The only "good" thing about girls acting out as hoes would be so guys who don't want to ruin the other women who actually mean well and want proper families and husbands fall for them for what they are, if occasionally. One thing I can say regarding a comment to things previously experimented is that I knew better than to think flippantly about a good woman, or try to seduce her, generally speaking. I could be wrong, but the promiscuous ones are beyond "saving" by a man, or perhaps they just need a different route for their future in terms of finding God. Any man marrying them is frankly, an idiot or a simple who is asking for it. Sad, but true.

What the society needs is to return to the idea that you get a good man if you put priority on marriage and being a wife/mother at a young age. The rewarding of bad behavior has made life really bad for women, who are largely paying the price as 30+ year old cat ladies, and men, who can't find young wives worthy of committing to. Again, I am not all that hopeful in general over the short to medium term because the only fix I see is going through a period of population loss and economic hardship, as we need times to get harder to sober people up about what is actually important in life. And it's not at all what women have thought for 40+ years.
 
I don’t think it is my job, plus hanging around her would lead to more temptation. I just cut her off (again) after my last post. I mentioned religious things and she said she believes God is real, but if she is continuing to strip how serious can she be? The next step would be, ask her to completely quit and I can financially support her? For a stripper?

God’s ways are above all of ours, I’m not saying she can’t be saved, but the more likely scenario is she’d bleed me dry while continuing to strip or worse sleep or hookup with other men.

I know the men here mean well, but these women are not relationship material and it is not my job to save her. I told her my beliefs and to find God, she needs to do that on her own.
 
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