Whore addiction

Swearing is what scholars do. And IQ80 16-year old kids.

Edit: the word everyone uses but pretends not to is replaced with scholars. Interesting.

Swearing is what man do to create a more brotherly and playful, relaxed atmosphere. Of course it´s not to be abused.

What I normally do with my kids is I replace a letter. Instead of Fuck I say Ruck this shit.

Dont have any idea how this can help the OP.
 
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Fucking Stop!

Either have some firm commitments or stop complaining to us about your addiction to whores.

You're going to keep suffering and making bad choices until you grow up dude.

I'm sorry and I'm not trying to be a dick...but there's no point in sugar coating it. You need to be firm or stop complaining all together.
This all or nothing approach is what stunts people, in whatever endeavor they are doing. None of us are morally perfect, so how can we be moral perfectionists? It is good to confess our sins and weaknesses to each other. Consider that Recovering could just as easily have never came forth and pursued his sin as if God couldn't see him.

I think we've given our two cents on this as best we could. None of us condone his sin, but we empathize with his weakness. I think it would be best if he were to mortify his sin, and to pursue this aggressively with his pastor.
 
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This is your first post.

Using an occasional F bomb is a tactic to emphasize a point. Doesn't mean someone isn't a practicing and developed Christian. You don't really know.

Yeah extreme vulgarity is a different point... But ...What's your advice?

First what proof does JCSteele have men here are spiritually developed? Has he met any of you? First post so what?

No addiction or vice is overcome overnight and telling people to just bleeping stop doesn’t work. To you: just bleeping stop swearing, just bleeping stop getting angry, just bleeping stop watching porn or masturbating forever. Just bleeping stop any vice you have right now.

You didn’t? Well you failed and aren’t committed enough. The things above are minor compared to a real life sexual relationship. The fact that you thought swearing and yelling would work leads me to conclude you have little experience in these matters and are probably larping.
 
First what proof does JCSteele have men here are spiritually developed? Has he met any of you? First post so what?

No addiction or vice is overcome overnight and telling people to just bleeping stop doesn’t work. To you: just bleeping stop swearing, just bleeping stop getting angry, just bleeping stop watching porn or masturbating forever. Just bleeping stop any vice you have right now.

You didn’t? Well you failed and aren’t committed enough. The things above are minor compared to a real life sexual relationship. The fact that you thought swearing and yelling would work leads me to conclude you have little experience in these matters and are probably larping.
No ive never been addicted to whores. But we all have our vices... And I doubt you've read the entire set of posts on the thread.

My point to OP was that he's demonstrated he's not actually interested in changing.

I told him to delete the number, cut her out of his life and walk away.

He's not listening to my point and wants cheap sex with whores. That's fine. If you want to do that to ahead... But you shouldn't bitch about it when someone says "this needs to stop and you know it, and youre able to stop it..."

Again, to to the begining and all my advice in the whole thread. It's pretty direct.

I am not yelling. It's text.

As I've said, this is something for someone to work out with their priest. All we are able to do is offer perspective.

Now, you're new so I have no idea about you... But yeah I'm not a larper at all...
 
Yes I failed. I didn’t want to keep it from the guys on this forum because the posts in this thread are helping me. I could have just lied but I didn’t. If this was easy men wouldn’t be struggling with this vice from the beginning of time. Anyway, I did block her, then decided to unblock her which of course was a mistake. She is a stripper, but besides that she hasn’t done anything unkind to me. No unkind words, no attitude, has no issues hanging out with me outside the club and doesn’t ask for anything. If we go out I’ll buy her dinner or pay for the date. We’ve hung out for entire weekends, she’s fine with it. She doesn’t have a pimp, she lives with her grandparents. She works at the strip club a few days a week.

I thought about taking her to church and seeing if she can be led out of this life, but obviously I am extremely hesitant. If it is a long con (it totally could be) it would be a poor move. I have planted seeds about God and that she needs to get out, but I can be more forceful. I am split between giving her an ultimatum or just ghosting and blocking again. Why I feel bad about just ghosting, besides her dancer lifestyle she hasn’t done anything wrong. But continuing to see her leads me into sin, and obviously she is very high risk.

To be honest, if she rejects the ultimatum to quit and turn to God it would be the easiest solution, I’d just move on. But if she doesn’t and accepts? That will be tricky. Is she genuine or is she accepting because of her current positive feelings. High risk.

I will have to embarrassingly explain this to my priest again. Yes I made a mistake, and the situation is tricky.
 
Yes I failed. I didn’t want to keep it from the guys on this forum because the posts in this thread are helping me. I could have just lied but I didn’t. If this was easy men wouldn’t be struggling with this vice from the beginning of time. Anyway, I did block her, then decided to unblock her which of course was a mistake. She is a stripper, but besides that she hasn’t done anything unkind to me. No unkind words, no attitude, has no issues hanging out with me outside the club and doesn’t ask for anything. If we go out I’ll buy her dinner or pay for the date. We’ve hung out for entire weekends, she’s fine with it. She doesn’t have a pimp, she lives with her grandparents. She works at the strip club a few days a week.

I thought about taking her to church and seeing if she can be led out of this life, but obviously I am extremely hesitant. If it is a long con (it totally could be) it would be a poor move. I have planted seeds about God and that she needs to get out, but I can be more forceful. I am split between giving her an ultimatum or just ghosting and blocking again. Why I feel bad about just ghosting, besides her dancer lifestyle she hasn’t done anything wrong. But continuing to see her leads me into sin, and obviously she is very high risk.

To be honest, if she rejects the ultimatum to quit and turn to God it would be the easiest solution, I’d just move on. But if she doesn’t and accepts? That will be tricky. Is she genuine or is she accepting because of her current positive feelings. High risk.

I will have to embarrassingly explain this to my priest again. Yes I made a mistake, and the situation is tricky.
If you're going to continue this. Which.... I think you should not.... Then she needs to stop stripping immediately.

You can call it whatever you want, but you're with her for sex and she's making a living selling her body for sexual gratification.

Your only chance... And I don't think it's a good one.... Is for her to stop stripping immediately and be amenable to church with you.

You're not in the same page and she's leading you to doing things you hate because you're not able to give up your vices.

If she doesn't go along. Delete Not Block her, set firm boundaries.
 
If you're going to continue this. Which.... I think you should not.... Then she needs to stop stripping immediately.

You can call it whatever you want, but you're with her for sex and she's making a living selling her body for sexual gratification.

Your only chance... And I don't think it's a good one.... Is for her to stop stripping immediately and be amenable to church with you.

You're not in the same page and she's leading you to doing things you hate because you're not able to give up your vices.

If she doesn't go along. Delete Not Block her, set firm boundaries.
We are talking about a stripper here. Someone who sells her body for cash. And is taught to squeeze the max of every client.
I’ve been to strip joints. In college. Never really enjoy them much. It’s decadent.

Are things so bad in US? People want to date strippers.

A friend of mine. Great guy. Dated someone not as bad. He went on a trip with her. She banged the tour guide. Everybody told him what would happen.

It’s a risk. But everything is possible.
 
We are talking about a stripper here. Someone who sells her body for cash. And is taught to squeeze the max of every client.
I’ve been to strip joints. In college. Never really enjoy them much. It’s decadent.

Are things so bad in US? People want to date strippers.

A friend of mine. Great guy. Dated someone not as bad. He went on a trip with her. She banged the tour guide. Everybody told him what would happen.

It’s a risk. But everything is possible.
That's my take too. But OP is not going to listen.
 
Have you been to her house?

Yes I have, a few times. I haven’t met her grandparents (just saw her grandma moving about inside the house when I dropped her off) Also did some sleuthing, I thought the same thing, she’s lying about where she lives, pimps, drugs, etc. but the online searching lists two 70s people as living with her.
 
Yes I have, a few times. I haven’t met her grandparents (just saw her grandma moving about inside the house when I dropped her off) Also did some sleuthing, I thought the same thing, she’s lying about where she lives, pimps, drugs, etc. but the online searching lists two 70s people as living with her.
I don’t know if you mentioned this already. But she probably already has a kid. Did you ask her this?
And she will get pregnant from you and get alimony. But I could be wrong.

It’s just a question of risk. Risk is probability of damage. You have a high probability of damage.
 
If you're going to continue this. Which.... I think you should not.... Then she needs to stop stripping immediately.

You can call it whatever you want, but you're with her for sex and she's making a living selling her body for sexual gratification.

Your only chance... And I don't think it's a good one.... Is for her to stop stripping immediately and be amenable to church with you.

You're not in the same page and she's leading you to doing things you hate because you're not able to give up your vices.

If she doesn't go along. Delete Not Block her, set firm boundaries.

You are correct. In a perfect world, I’d delete her # and never talk to her again. What’s holding me back is besides the stripping she’s done nothing wrong when we’ve been together (we’re sinning yes, but I mean nothing in her behavior), but yes it is high risk given her background.

We were out one time and I was coming back from the men’s room and she was telling a guy off who was trying to hit in her. I witnessed it myself. She also hates feminism (thinks it’s dumb), believes men should be dominant and be providers, so it’s weird.
 
I don’t know if you mentioned this already. But she probably already has a kid. Did you ask her this?
And she will get pregnant from you and get alimony. But I could be wrong.

It’s just a question of risk. Risk is probability of damage. You have a high probability of damage.

No kids. But your concern is valid, like I mentioned it could just be a long term con. It is high risk for sure.
 
No kids. But your concern is valid, like I mentioned it could just be a long term con. It is high risk for sure.
But have you been inside her house? I bet she has a kid.

Why is she stripping? If she lives with her grandmother? College tuition?
 
You are correct. In a perfect world, I’d delete her # and never talk to her again. What’s holding me back is besides the stripping she’s done nothing wrong when we’ve been together (we’re sinning yes, but I mean nothing in her behavior), but yes it is high risk given her background.

We were out one time and I was coming back from the men’s room and she was telling a guy off who was trying to hit in her. I witnessed it myself. She also hates feminism (thinks it’s dumb), believes men should be dominant and be providers, so it’s weird.
You are putting her on a pedestal and you deserve better.

But since you're having sex with her you're willing to degrade and disrespect yourself.

You know what you're doing is wrong. You feel terrible about it... But you're not willing to let it go.

My advice is to stop with the equivocation and recognize that this is a willpower issue and to stop making excuses for her.

You're allowing yourself to be led by a succubus.
 
Inside no, I’ve dropped her off and saw an old grandma shuffling about, and the online search confirms it. She’s had a bunch of jobs, restaurants, hostessing, but she said she wasn’t get paid much. She didn’t go to college only has a high school diploma. Job opportunities with that sort of education are pretty bad. You’re right, it doesn’t inspire confidence for a younger woman to start stripping, but sadly it is big part of the economy these days, along with sugar babies, and all types of whoring or light whoring.
 
But have you been inside her house? I bet she has a kid.

Why is she stripping? If she lives with her grandmother? College tuition?

I’m 100% sure she doesn’t have a kid. If you see her, you can tell why, absolutely no signs of it and she is small in stature.
 
I’m 100% sure she doesn’t have a kid. If you see her, you can tell why, absolutely no signs of it and she is small in stature.
My wild guess would be her grandmother takes care of the kid. And the father is gone. That’s why she lives with them.

If she lives rent free on her grandparents house. Why does she need to be stripping? Working in a retail department store is more than enough to cover superfluous bills.

But either way she fell for stripping easy money. She will fell in other situations again. Cheating.

This is a train wreck waiting to happen.

The strippers I knew from my college days were either single mums. Drug addicts. Or girls who wanted to be models and ended up in human trafficking. It’s been 20 years so maybe thinks are different now.

Go inside her house.

Some member from the forum should talk with this guy personally. Some mod maybe. You could be making a bad decision which will hunt you for the rest of your life.

Anyway.

If my kid dated a stripper. I would break his legs so he couldn’t walk to meet her.
 
The problem with going toward the abyss is that you will reach that destination eventually.
Consciously or not, it doesn't matter. It will swallow you.
There are billions of people now alive in a place of unimaginable horror.


They would give anything for a chance to be bodily on earth again as you are and change their destiny. But it's not possible anymore.
No gain on earth is worth going there. Think about it in your mind for a while.


If you still can, tell that girl about Jesus Christ, redemption, how she can be saved, Evangelium. If she accepts, it will save her life.

If not, don't go with her to Sheol.
 
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