The Iran and Wider Middle East Thread

Sandalwood Peak said:
We were in a race to the bottom because there are systematic flaws in our society. Those are sin, jews, women. People ignored the problems, tried to find compromises or loopholes.

So if we look at vagina, the vagina supply has been drying up in the west. In the end, men went overseas. The vagina supply is now drying up overseas. There’s no reason there should be some exponentially growing scarcity for vagina. Something is terribly wrong. Society is not operating as it should.

Anyway, we’ve now hit the bottom. Now you will see how rapidly attitudes change once everyone sees that the shelves are empty.

The only people who want to live under the Jews are boomers. The kikes trust Hindus more than a white millennial to uphold their kike order. Imagine that.

It’s over. They’re finished. White men are going to be nice to each other again soon. That’s the only possible outcome. That’s the real treasure.
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I pray you are correct. I have said either White men would take their countries back and kick out the invaders or they will die out and the Chinese will take over. So, you certainly take the more positive side of the two outcomes. I appreciate your explanation. Thank you.
 
It looks like the SAA is holding the line north of Hama and has begun counterattacking.





The terrorists advanced too fast and too deep. Their logistics are stretched and their supply lines are being decimated by the Russian and Syrian air forces.

I think this might get ugly for the terrorists really quickly.
 
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Just drove back about 4 hours on the interstate. It is amazing how bad our roads are and how badly in need of repair they are, heading INTO winter. Meaning, they should be at their best right now and winter will cause road damage.

I wonder how much of our tax money, that should go to these roads, are going to fund terrorists who are beheading people and attacking churches.
 
Labienus said:
The Russian airforce is now operating nonstop with at least 12 sukhois (Su-34s, Su-30s and SU-24s) and are causing absolute carnage on the terrorists.

Press TV and Iraqi media are reporting that a Russian airstrike just took out the terrorist leader Jolani in Idlib along with other officers. Not 100% confirmed yet, but the Russians are certainly capable of doing that.

This is the airstrike that allegedly took him out.

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Weird copey flex. The central Syrian government just had 9 years of blood, sweat and tears including 5 massive countercampaigns (2015 onwards) reversed in a matter of days but somehow the SAA is winning because muh airstrikes and muh 9D chess masterplan.

There is no way to spin this yet the paid clowns dominating the discourse on both sides will try anyway. It is a F up of colossal proportions and in the best case scenario it will take 6-18 months, ample resources (which Syria doesn't have) and thousands of lives to at the very least get back to the previous status quo. Congratulations on that sweet pending victory. Serious question: does the propagandized and emotionally invested yes-man crowd actually comprehend the gravity what just happened?

Getting sucked back into a long and drawn out reignited civil war fostered and fed by outside actors that hate your guts isn't winning. Preliminary recap. The North is gone and will from here on fall under the sphere of influence of Erdo. Controlling Aleppo, which is the biggest city and economic heart of Syria, has been a Turkish objective for 15 years and it was just deposited in his lap at the expense of a bag of potatoes. Thank you very much. SNA+allies and HTS+allies will take everything west of Aleppo up towards the Euphrates with the exception of the SDF held area around Manbij. South of there starts the desert.

In the East things are less pronounced. Preliminary reports indicate that the SAA is vacating some areas West of ar Raqqa but thats preliminary and 90 percent of the internet is full of sh*t anyway. Further east the SDF's recent move is aimed at dislodging the SAA from the beachhead north of the Euphrates, the area around Khusham. Whether they will cross the Euphrates depends on the US. If the SDF stays put it is proof that the US is not overtly involved in the current shenanigans - cutting off that land bridge has been a strategic objective so not acting on it when the SAA is in the ropes is proof the Biden Administration is not interested in the anarchy that will come with disposing Assad and instead prefers the current forever civil war status.


If the Syrian Arab Army can hold the line in Hama this won't end well for the terrorists. The Russian airforce is much, much more efficient than prior to 2020 and will absolutely wreck the terrorists since they don't have any air defense. This is not Ukraine that has tons of Soviet and NATO air defense.

The Russians will probably completely destroy Idlib.
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ISIS didn't have any serious AD systems too and it took almost 4 years following the Fall of Mosul in 2013 to dislodge them - half of Mosul still is in ruins bytheway. With the addendum that the SAA doesn't have nearly the resources that the IA/PMUs and SDF had.

Good luck going into Aleppo. HTS+allies doubled, tripled, quadrupled in number based on this massive victory alone - millions of young, religious and jobless men were just added to the manpower pool and they are skyhigh on religious fervor. Never mind the wide open border and steady stream of resources and menpower entering the area from Turkey - not only do the Turks allow thousands of whacko Central Asian beardos moving towards IS/HTS areas, they actually facilitate this.

Labienus said:
It looks like the SAA is holding the line north of Hama and has begun counterattacking.

Jolani
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The terrorists advanced too fast and too deep. Their logistics are stretched and their supply lines are being decimated by the Russian and Syrian air forces.

I think this might get ugly for the terrorists really quickly.
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First off, Jolani doesn't have long hair hence he isn't dead and you're looking at a cropped and edited image from a couple of years ago. Secondly, the counterattack hasn't started. 'News' about advances towards Morek proved to be phantom attacks - restricted to social media accounts and whatnot. Just a while ago airstrikes were reported on Suran which is directly north of Hama. Any counteroffensive will likely start in the days to come.
 
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Get2choppaaa said:
Not sure why anyone thinks they can trust Turkey. Russia and US have both made deals with the devil in placating them at times.
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In barely 5 years time the perception of Putin went from black magic spymaster maskirovka practicioner 9D chess king to gullible and bumbling village idiot that gets taken for a ride on literally every occasion possible.

In the last four years alone man got played in Ukraine (Minsk 3) , Kazakhstan, Turkey and now Syria. Probably forgetting a few but you get the point.

It's amateurism galore. Bashar thought he could create a Jihad Containment Zone in Idlib, bus every single death cult beardo into said sanitary zone and just be done with it. Putin is actually even worse. Vlady was under the inpression that, even though holding all the cards following HTS+allies military defeat in 2019, he could trade off the pending destruction of Erdo's proxies for some freebies in Central Asia and the Caucasus at Turkey's expense.

Big mistake. Never trust a Turk. You'll regret it for eternity. And never let a Russian do a deal. You'll regret that one for eternity too.
 
LaAguilaNegra said:
Weird copey flex. The central Syrian government just had 9 years of blood, sweat and tears including 5 massive countercampaigns (2015 onwards) reversed in a matter of days but somehow the SAA is winning because muh airstrikes and muh 9D chess masterplan.

There is no way to spin this yet the paid clowns dominating the discourse on both sides will try anyway. It is a F up of colossal proportions and in the best case scenario it will take 6-18 months, ample resources (which Syria doesn't have) and thousands of lives to at the very least get back to the previous status quo. Congratulations on that sweet pending victory. Serious question: does the propagandized and emotionally invested yes-man crowd actually comprehend the gravity what just happened?

Getting sucked back into a long and drawn out reignited civil war fostered and fed by outside actors that hate your guts isn't winning. Preliminary recap. The North is gone and will from here on fall under the sphere of influence of Erdo. Controlling Aleppo, which is the biggest city and economic heart of Syria, has been a Turkish objective for 15 years and it was just deposited in his lap at the expense of a bag of potatoes. Thank you very much. SNA+allies and HTS+allies will take everything west of Aleppo up towards the Euphrates with the exception of the SDF held area around Manbij. South of there starts the desert.

In the East things are less pronounced. Preliminary reports indicate that the SAA is vacating some areas West of ar Raqqa but thats preliminary and 90 percent of the internet is full of sh*t anyway. Further east the SDF's recent move is aimed at dislodging the SAA from the beachhead north of the Euphrates, the area around Khusham. Whether they will cross the Euphrates depends on the US. If the SDF stays put it is proof that the US is not overtly involved in the current shenanigans - cutting off that land bridge has been a strategic objective so not acting on it when the SAA is in the ropes is proof the Biden Administration is not interested in the anarchy that will come with disposing Assad and instead prefers the current forever civil war status.




ISIS didn't have any serious AD systems too and it took almost 4 years following the Fall of Mosul in 2013 to dislodge them - half of Mosul still is in ruins bytheway. With the addendum that the SAA doesn't have nearly the resources that the IA/PMUs and SDF had.

Good luck going into Aleppo. HTS+allies doubled, tripled, quadrupled in number based on this massive victory alone - millions of young, religious and jobless men were just added to the manpower pool and they are skyhigh on religious fervor. Never mind the wide open border and steady stream of resources and menpower entering the area from Turkey - not only do the Turks allow thousands of whacko Central Asian beardos moving towards IS/HTS areas, they actually facilitate this.



First off, Jolani doesn't have long hair hence he isn't dead and you're looking at a cropped and edited image from a couple of years ago. Secondly, the counterattack hasn't started. 'News' about advances towards Morek proved to be phantom attacks - restricted to social media accounts and whatnot. Just a while ago airstrikes were reported on Suran which is directly north of Hama. Any counteroffensive will likely start in the days to come.
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I didn't downplay the front's collapse on the part of the SAA and did not indicate there is any type of masterplan. I just said that the terrorists overextended and are getting annihilated by the Russian air force.

Regarding Jolani, that picture was fake, but the news about him being killed is not necessarily false. It's been reported by Iraqi media and I did say it was unconfirmed.

On the counterattack, what Suriyak reported was a small and local counterattack, not the big counteroffensive that is coming.

You're the one who seems emotionally invested here with all the insinuations and personal attacks. You should stop attacking everyone who post a different point of view.
 
People like Jolani are glorified figureheads, it doesn't matter much if they're dead or alive, as real jihadi leadership is run out of Tel Aviv, London, Ankara and DC/Langley. Unlike Hezbollah, the jihadis in Syria are mostly astroturfed groups, except perhaps for the Kurdish militia which is bound by close ethnic/foreign ties and whose leadership has been groomed by NATO (minus Turkey) and Israel for decades now.

The moderate headchoppers will eventually be dislodged, but it will be a long and painful process, which will destroy cities like Aleppo and their Christian communities, and set that country back another 5-10 years.

The main mistake Russia and China made in Syria is not that they trusted Erdogan, but that they have failed to provide the Syrian economy with the tools to get around the stifling sanctions that the ((neocons)) imposed on that country. As a result a lot of the middle class and younger people in cities like Aleppo went abroad, and the city became a shell of itself with mostly older people there, and was open to the jihadi invaders, who are a mix of foreign mercs and Syrian country bumpkins who resent richer city dwellers. It's like how you can fell a tree that's rotten inside with a few strokes of an axe, while a healthy one would not yield.

The situation in Aleppo is very similar to what happened in Cambodia in the 1970s, when the foreign-backed poor peasant Khmer Rouge overrun Phnom Penh. Initially many citizens viewed them as liberators, but they quickly came to regret it. See also Iraq and Libya, where many locals thought that the invaders were liberators.
 
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Sandalwood Peak said:
The only thing that matters is what the Jews are interested in.
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Yes they are absolutely interested in anarchy and dismemberment of Syria. They also want to roll into southern Syria. The zealots within the current government want to settle the region, starting with Lebanon and southern Syria. The first step for this is to depopulate the region through war and their hordes of mercenary vandals.
 
Does somebody mind giving a quick summary of the players for me?

The rebels on the offensive are backed by Israel/USA and the defenders are the official Syrian government backed by Russia/ turkey?
 
LaAguilaNegra said:
In barely 5 years time the perception of Putin went from black magic spymaster maskirovka practicioner 9D chess king to gullible and bumbling village idiot that gets taken for a ride on literally every occasion possible.

In the last four years alone man got played in Ukraine (Minsk 3) , Kazakhstan, Turkey and now Syria. Probably forgetting a few but you get the point.

It's amateurism galore. Bashar thought he could create a Jihad Containment Zone in Idlib, bus every single death cult beardo into said sanitary zone and just be done with it. Putin is actually even worse. Vlady was under the inpression that, even though holding all the cards following HTS+allies military defeat in 2019, he could trade off the pending destruction of Erdo's proxies for some freebies in Central Asia and the Caucasus at Turkey's expense.

Big mistake. Never trust a Turk. You'll regret it for eternity. And never let a Russian do a deal. You'll regret that one for eternity too.
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I dont have Delusions of Putin Grandeur (DPG *TM*). I do think he's a very capable ruler, doing a great job for his country compared to alternatives we've had in the west on a nationalist front excluding Trump. When I saw him kiss a Quran, it solidified my lack of fanboyism. No Orthodox Christian would EVER do that. He's a politician like the rest. He's got his own kabal to contend with like Trump and the rest.

That said....

To have to engage with European Union trade expectations while being forced into the corner of backing Iran (honestly the biggest liability), Syria, NKorea.... it is a bit of a beclowning experience given the natural force of having to become a serf to the Chinese.... who are not aligned with Russia AT ALL. Large part of that is NATO and the need for UK to ensure a non-unified land mass in Europe (All of WWI/WWII/Napoleonic wars)

In my time in the military overseas, i saw Russian forces backing one side, the US backing another.... both of us aligned against the "ISIS" chaos which both created. I saw the aftermath of Qaddafi and was involved in the clean up there. Its very funny to me the internet folks who attribute it only to the US fomenting one side of a faction and dont see that the Russian component exists in the same outreach capacity.

I like Putin very very very much more as an American over other extreme factions within the Russian government. He's like Trump. A pragmatist. Unfortunately for the fanboy's.... his stick is less strong than it was now that another adult is at the table.
 
Labienus said:
It looks like the SAA is holding the line north of Hama and has begun counterattacking.





The terrorists advanced too fast and too deep. Their logistics are stretched and their supply lines are being decimated by the Russian and Syrian air forces.

I think this might get ugly for the terrorists really quickly.
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It's my understanding that 'terrorists' make attacks on civilians, to instill a general fear of death.

Effective attacks on military forces are not terrorist by definition.

Therefore any sources calling them terrorists are liars, and can never be trusted again, or at least not for a generation or so, depending on other signs of trustworthiness.
 
Update day #5

In Eastern Aleppo Governate geolocated videos confirm that HTS+allies have moved from al Safira to Khanaser 30km southwards. During this attack around 30-50 SAA were captured. Khanaser is a strategic town located on the desert Aleppo-al Safira-Khanaser-Ithriya road, and was used as main axis of attack during Suhail al Hassan's 2014 Aleppo Campaign that broke the siege on the Central Prison.

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In Northern Aleppo governate the Turkish backed SNA launched operation Dawn of Freedom. Goal of the operation is to dislodge the SDF from the area around Tell Rifaat. This is area is a rather small pocket and will not hold long. The SNA has made decent headway but the battle is ongoing. Important: the Turkish Army is involved in the fighting by providing the SNA with artillery support. Drones are buzzing above the area. The Russian AF has launched several strikes on the advancing SNA units.

In response to the Turkish aggression, the SDFs military council has declared a general mobilization



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SNA convoy decked out in expired Turkish gear.



In Hama governate the HTS+allies move on Hama has been stopped and in part reversed. The Tiger Forces have started moving northwards from Hama yet it is unclear how far North they actually are. Tiger Forces have been geolocated in several big towns north of Hama, most notably Tayyeb al Imam, Halfaya and Maaran. The immediate goal is recapturing Morek. In the town of Suran heavy fighting was reported.

Also in Hama: the important Syrian commander was killed in a HTS op. Details remain unclear, but he was targeted by drone. HTS obviously doesn't have this level of Intel gathering.



Tiger Forces in Taybet al Imam.



Around Aleppo city HTS+allies consolidated their positions. The industrial area of Sheik Najjar and Neirab military base were taken from the SDF. In those areas, like in Kuweires Base, lots of vehicles were taken over. These include over a dozen of tanks, 2 L39 planes, an Uragan MLRS, an Mi8 chopper, a Pantsir AD system, and a Strela AD system. Most of the more technologically advanced systems are not usable







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Also an interesting video of an SAA Tochka U launched at Idlib City.



Several regional leaders have come out in support of Assad, these include the leaders of Jordan, the UAE, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

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Caduceus said:
Map key needs to be changed

Liberated areas = Under temporary control of fundamentalist terrorist muslims funded & assisted by the USA
Assad Regime = Safe zones under legitimate state control with military assistance from Russia
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Then change it. All the old school pro SAA map makers (Peto Lucem, Agosthocles de Syracuse, Ivan Sidorenko in his later days) have retired so there is a market ready to be tapped into.
 
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