The vote doesn't matter because the decision in favor of Trump has already been made.
The Deep State has Shifted Its Support to Trump for President
No need to gatekeep the forum any more on muh (((democracy))).
Why Voting Is Worth It
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The Deep State has Shifted Its Support to Trump for President
No need to gatekeep the forum any more on muh (((democracy))).
It depends what you mean by rigged. Obviously if you are a newbie on the local scene, don’t expect to be taken seriously or even paid much attention to at all. That, and they usually groom people for offices or positions, but that can apply to any corporation or institution. It depends on your goals, expecting to become a rising star that will enact monumental change is like expecting to be the next CEO at your company, it’s not going to happen for 99.9999% of us.
Of course bosses will lie and stonewall you, but that is the same anywhere. They are there to protect the system and have little care about you or your goals.
Posting on here to enact change is relatively useless. The forum doesn’t have many members, and some of the members have the political acumen of a ham sandwich. You can tell by their posts, and if they act or write like that in real life they’d be fired or shunned.
Regarding ‘force’, those type of movements are co-opted and infiltrated anyway. Wherever, there are conservative men in groups, you can be sure there are Feds or informants around reporting to big daddy government or worse trying to force them into violent action.
I assure you, nothing that happens at your local county's GOP office has anything to do with upending the status quo. Everyone goes in there with the best of intentions but the only people who make a career of it get on the job training in how to be liars and grifters themselves. No one in that office is losing sleep on any of the issues we talk about here.
And yes, it is true that the counter-revolutionary groups are pre-emptively co-opted by the Feds. That's right out of the 1984 Goldstein textbook. Nevertheless, a true counter-revolutionary movement is the only way to turn the tide. That or mass repentance.
This article was written in May and doesn't take the shooting into account.
Again, the decision has already been made.
I invite all the gatekeepers and feds here to downvote me again. It will help the other users to see you for what you are.
Cheers.
Again, the decision has already been made.
I invite all the gatekeepers and feds here to downvote me again. It will help the other users to see you for what you are.
Cheers.
It’s a sin not to vote for Donald Trump? That’s a pretty good campaign slogan.
Let me give you a hypothetical:
You’re in a country where there are two parties. Party A is running a fag on a platform of war with a foreign country for no discernible reason; Party B is running a tranny on a platform of war with a foreign country for no discernible reason. Last year Party B ran a fag and Party A ran a woman who promoted fags, so her party could run a fag in the next election cycle to keep up with Party B, who got more votes.
According to your philosophy it’s a mortal sin not to vote because you aren’t hurting the enemy. Are you voting for Party A or Party B, and in this scenario which party is the enemy?
Nonsene. The Dems alone are not the enemy. The party you are voting for is also the enemy. You are voting for evil.
The much lesser of two evils.
What you are doing is aiding the much worse enemy by purity spiralling. A Dem activist would applaud your efforts.
You're falling into the sinful error of pride, assuming that everyone is evil except you.
Bible Gateway passage: Romans 3:9-26 - Revised Standard Version
None Is Righteous - What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for I have already charged that all men, both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands, no one seeks for God. All have turned aside, together they...
"What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for I have already charged that all men, both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin, as it is written,"
“None is righteous, no, not one;
no one understands, no one seeks for God.
All have turned aside, together they have gone wrong;
no one does good, not even one.”
“Their throat is an open grave,
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
“Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood,
in their paths are ruin and misery,
and the way of peace they do not know.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
Therefore, since all men are sinners, all we can ever hope to do is choose the lesser of evils in this lifetime. Until the arriving of Christ's Kingdom, life will always be about choosing the lesser of evils, since all is evil.
Thus, by refusing to vote, you increase the amount of evil in the world by not choosing the lesser of evils. You engage in willful delusion that by doing nothing somehow things will get better, which is the very definition of pride, since all delusion is pride.
The not voting part isn't the real sinful part - it's the motivation and intention that causes one not to vote, which at root comes from pride. That pride is absolutely cancer for your soul, and by not voting you allow that cancer to grow and corrupt your very own soul.
As it is with most Christian commandments, Love thy Neighbor is also for the benefit of oneself. Once you stop caring about your Neighbor, it will not be long before you are consumed with hatred and indifference for man, and your separation from God will be complete.
Thus if you aren't voting because "both sides are evil," you've lost the entire point of the Bible and Satan has you deep in his grips.
It's a huge difference, going 55 mph gives one the chance to slow down and turn around. 100 mph is absolute death.
Likewise voting Republican preserves much of the nation that can eventually be saved through repentance. Democrat victories ensure there will be nothing left except a wasteland, similar to how it was when Islam took over the Middle East after the Catholics ransacked Constantinople in the 4th Crusade. Who thinks the Middle East can be saved now?
Democrat victories will mean Christians will be eventually forced to leave American due to persecution.
This is a huge deal and the fact you don't think so shows that you are blinded by pride.
Less persecution > more persecution, every single time.
The only reason you cannot understand this is because you (and many, many others here) have lived a soft life with no experience of real persecution. Early Christians ALWAYS went for the Emperor that persecuted them the least, which is why Constantine was a favorite - he allowed freedom of religion. The edict of Milan wasn't pro-Christian, it simply wasn't anti-Christian.
You left out the part that one of those Parties is kinder to Christians than the other, and promotes more Christianity than the other, and in fact has far more Christians voting for it than the other.
But hey, keep lying to yourself, it's not like lying is a mortal sin or anything
How is it that you say I don't think so and I don't understand when you're appealing to my own argument in favor of voting for Trump?
You guys are still too wrapped up in this emotionally. I need to see some more critical thought coming from your guys' side.
On top of that, it's not your job to sell Trump to me. That's his job, to sell himself to the people.
You're the only one to mention Trump in our exchange.
You simply stated a reason that would justify voting for Trump, potentially. I did not address or even care about Trump.
My point was the larger one: that you only consider it as a "potential" reason to vote, when in reality, anytime there is a way to lower persecution, it should always be chosen. It's not a "potential" reason, it's an automatic reason that must be obeyed. 99% of Christians throughout history could have told you this.
I do belive that democracy by voting would work well in a mainly white society without many Jewish manipulators. It sort of did for a long time in the US and elsewhere. But it doesn't work well with them present. You vote for Brexit to stop migrants, but they keep coming. You voted Trump 2016, but 20 million illegals (or whatever) are here now. So it didn't work!
We need one clear direction/vision in society for decades, like with Putin in Russia. One clear direction for 25 years now! Doesn't have to be one person, but some form of continuation of values is needed. Also, why aren't there any landslides anymore? Used to be that on party or political fraction got 60-80 percent of the votes! It's a testament to the extent of social engineering that all elections are down to the wire. It's absurd really when you think about it!
We need one clear direction/vision in society for decades, like with Putin in Russia. One clear direction for 25 years now! Doesn't have to be one person, but some form of continuation of values is needed. Also, why aren't there any landslides anymore? Used to be that on party or political fraction got 60-80 percent of the votes! It's a testament to the extent of social engineering that all elections are down to the wire. It's absurd really when you think about it!
While that would be nice, it's not what we have at the moment. Our nations are under judgement for the past sins, and if we continue to sin, it will get exponentially worse.
Not voting would simply be adding more sins onto the pile of our ancestors sins. It's a terrible move, strategically and spiritually.
You're not taking into account the other factors. Such as if my vote would even be counted at all in a blue state or a rigged election. Less persecution of Christians is not even a selling point of Trump, it's merely an incidental.
Even if the vote is rigged, one should still vote. Those who rig will have to atone for their sin someday. Just because others are sinning (stealing votes) does not mean we should sin (become indifferent to our Neighbors). Indeed, we should be calling out the lies of the system even louder and vote all the same.
People who disagree with your black pill take are how feds?
Let's play that game: How can we be sure you're not a fed, sent here to infiltrate and demoralize others?
I struggle to see what you get out of being here when nearly every post is a negative one
I think living in the world you're in where everything is negative must be totally exhausting and I refuse to let that negativity permeate my psyche.
You're falling into the sinful error of pride, assuming that everyone is evil except you.
Bible Gateway passage: Romans 3:9-26 - Revised Standard Version
None Is Righteous - What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for I have already charged that all men, both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands, no one seeks for God. All have turned aside, together they...www.biblegateway.com
"What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for I have already charged that all men, both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin, as it is written,"
“None is righteous, no, not one;
no one understands, no one seeks for God.
All have turned aside, together they have gone wrong;
no one does good, not even one.”
“Their throat is an open grave,
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
“Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood,
in their paths are ruin and misery,
and the way of peace they do not know.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
Therefore, since all men are sinners, all we can ever hope to do is choose the lesser of evils in this lifetime. Until the arriving of Christ's Kingdom, life will always be about choosing the lesser of evils, since all is evil.
Thus, by refusing to vote, you increase the amount of evil in the world by not choosing the lesser of evils. You engage in willful delusion that by doing nothing somehow things will get better, which is the very definition of pride, since all delusion is pride.
The not voting part isn't the real sinful part - it's the motivation and intention that causes one not to vote, which at root comes from pride. That pride is absolutely cancer for your soul, and by not voting you allow that cancer to grow and corrupt your very own soul.
As it is with most Christian commandments, Love thy Neighbor is also for the benefit of oneself. Once you stop caring about your Neighbor, it will not be long before you are consumed with hatred and indifference for man, and your separation from God will be complete.
Thus if you aren't voting because "both sides are evil," you've lost the entire point of the Bible and Satan has you deep in his grips.
The only way to vote would be to go to the polling station and to write the name Jesus Christ on the ballot, leaving with your conscience clear.
- https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/are-christians-obligated-to-vote