The Reaction To "Game" & Other Past Vile Behaviour - After Enlightenment - Thread

Yes, that is Bodi. He was always one of the most honest writers on this stuff.

I actually met him in Warsaw and he advised me to get into coding (which I didn't do). I met Krauser too (he was hitting the mall to do some sets). I found something a little sad about Krasuer compared with others because while he seems to have left this whole PUA stuff behind (to a degree) he seems to not have found a
Around the same time Roosh converted and other game guys from his era were talking more about Christianity, I recall Krauser writing a favorable review of a C.S. Lewis book and talking about the negative results of the secularization of society without indicating that he himself had interest in converting. I looked at his website this week and it seems like he's gone more towards the nihilism route. It's an interesting case study to compare where he is now compared to someone like Roosh or Victor Pride.
 
Men burn out energy wise and when the mental energy for sex (and associated activities) dwindles there needs to be a higher purpose in the second half of life, that seems pretty universal even for secular men.
It's some loss of energy but more the realization that ROI becomes a bigger deal. The nihilism can come from anything red pill, since you need to understand the meaning of loss, suffering, or challenge with God as the one you can trust, when times are hard. That especially is true when dealing with women, to be honest, since having an expectation that they will or will not do something, or are something that they aren't, will crush you. I'm being generic there so as not to elicit calls from the "black pill" crowd.

I think the biggest issue I've come to fully understand now, which makes things both worse and better, is that you really do need a woman that "chooses you". That brings up a whole other host of issues in a world where overall quality is very low and hard to find.
 
It's some loss of energy but more the realization that ROI becomes a bigger deal. The nihilism can come from anything red pill, since you need to understand the meaning of loss, suffering, or challenge with God as the one you can trust, when times are hard. That especially is true when dealing with women, to be honest, since having an expectation that they will or will not do something, or are something that they aren't, will crush you. I'm being generic there so as not to elicit calls from the "black pill" crowd.

I think the biggest issue I've come to fully understand now, which makes things both worse and better, is that you really do need a woman that "chooses you". That brings up a whole other host of issues in a world where overall quality is very low and hard to find.

I remember vaguely Roosh hinting in some old article that what if game was merely a way to find a woman who chose you first, as in the techniques etc. are merely for your own psyche and its hard to fuck things up so to speak when a woman really likes you. So it's a placebo in a way once you learn IOIs by heart.
 
I remember vaguely Roosh hinting in some old article that what if game was merely a way to find a woman who chose you first, as in the techniques etc. are merely for your own psyche and its hard to fuck things up so to speak when a woman really likes you. So it's a placebo in a way once you learn IOIs by heart.
That's a good point. The problem is one of "game" being mostly centered on short term encounters, where women's "feels" are particularly fleeting or related to low IQ/emotional states. As social interaction and family connections became less common over the years, and being around for longer periods of time to feel this out went away, you had the proxy of short term game, yes, but it won't last in most cases.

A lot of the things for women and men are similar, in terms of attraction and what will establish connection, but where they differ is that for men we are less flexible on the physical appearance issues. The good thing for women is that unlike them, we don't have unreasonable expectations that deviate that far from a similar SMV, while they do and it shows now in the modern experiment. That's why they need to both focus on men over longer terms to respect and love them, and appreciate the protection and provisioning. It isn't spoken of enough, the degree to which women can easily adapt to a man and his lead, while a man obviously isn't going to get anything to "work" if she isn't young, or if she's fat, etc (most of modernity).
 
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