Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

Pointy Elbows said:
Re: Trump's proposal for "Ukraine Peace." Well, a guy has to start somewhere. He's still acting like he's the biggest swinging Richard in the room. I doubt that will be well-received. In N. America, he is. In EE, we'll see. Maybe the bravado works, but I don't think Russians appreciate being told that they helped the US win WW2. An unnecessary historical representation, no matter what hollywood says. Ball is in Putin' court now, if he chooses to respond.
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I kind of expect Trump to impose new sanctions, and increase the enforcement of old ones, if only to improve our negotiation position. Because right now we're not in a position of strength to dictate Russia anything, but if Trump is able to cause economic harm to Russia, by for example driving the oil prices down, it would give us a leverage.

Pointy Elbows said:
Also, I am unaware of any US missile strikes into Russia proper since the inauguration. Have I missed something? If Trump does them, then Putin will lose even more face (fuzzy red lines and all). Trump can speak as he likes, but the battle decisions will tell a lot.
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Only drone swarms since the inauguration.
 
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TruckDriver9 said:
I kind of expect Trump to impose new sanctions, and increase the enforcement of old ones, if only to improve our negotiation position. Because right now we're not in a position of strenght to dictate Russia anything, but if Trump is able to cause economic harm to Russia, by for example driving the oil prices down, it would give us a leverage.


Only drone swarms since the inauguration.
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I feel as though Russia has weathered all of the sanctions well. Any sanctions have only hurt Europe. Maybe that simply is the plan after all.

Overall, Russia has been pretty consistent throughout the war and hasn't really changed its approached. The only change I'm aware was when they revised the nuclear weapons doctrine which would now make it more likely that European Nato states get hit.
 
Droughtmeat said:
I feel as though Russia has weathered all of the sanctions well. Any sanctions have only hurt Europe. Maybe that simply is the plan after all.
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Sure, the European, and especially German, economy has been wrecked. But it doesn't mean that Russian economy didn't take any hits, nor that it's impregnable. I can think on the spot, of two ways to apply additional economic pressure on Russia. First, go after intermediaries (both countries and companies) which facilitate Russian international trade. Second, increase oil and gas production to drive down the prices and cut into Russian revenue streams. Russia won't collapse because of this, and I'm sure they'll find ways to circumvent any new sanctions, but it will come at a price of increased operating costs and decreased profits.
 
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Cooper said:
One of the problems with this is that a lot of the oil fracking operations in the US are not cost effective if the price of oil drops too much.

www.statista.com

Breakeven prices for U.S. oil producers 2024 | Statista

The Permian basin has a breakeven price upward of 62 U.S. dollars for new wells and only half that price for existing oil and gas wells.
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That's exactly why Trump wants to drill. We need to tap into cheaper extraction points so that we don't need to rely on fracking.
 
Samseau said:
"Drill baby, drill," is the biggest threat to the Russian economy. Trumps' sanctions talk is just bluster to keep the histronic libs and neocons from melting down.
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It takes years to drill new oil wells so its not going to happen for a while. Certainly nothing that will affect the course of oil prices in the next year or two.
 
Australia Sucks said:
It takes years to drill new oil wells so its not going to happen for a while. Certainly nothing that will affect the course of oil prices in the next year or two.
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No, that excuse has been used in the past to explain how the US can't just pump it's way out of a supply shortage. Except that when Trump removed restrictions during his first term, and US production reached 100% of domestic usage fairly quickly.

I think in fact they know where they would like to drill if the leftist fake climate crisis government bureaucrats will let them, and given half a chance they can have oil coming up and reaching market in a matter of months.
 
Let's see what Pres. Trump does this time with projects like Keystone XL. Canada has tons of oil, tarsands, etc...and some retarded environmental laws.

Keystone XL Pipeline – Environmental and Energy Law Program

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www.nrdc.org

What Is the Keystone XL Pipeline?

How a single pipeline project became the epicenter of an enormous environmental, public health, and civil rights battle.
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(Good outline of the project, but with a bunch of hand wringing from folks who've never seen how beautiful northern Alberta is, even after oilfield projects and reforestation, etc...)


If there is ever a race to the bottom price war for oil, the western Canadian economy is going to get absolutely wrecked....
 
Thomas More said:
I think in fact they know where they would like to drill if the leftist fake climate crisis government bureaucrats will let them, and given half a chance they can have oil coming up and reaching market in a matter of months.
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What you say is partially true, but there is a limit to this. You can quickly expand production on existing wells or restart mothballed oil wells but to actually pump oil from a completely new well it takes years to do exploration, feasibility studies, organize financing and start production, etc.
 
Australia Sucks said:
What you say is partially true, but there is a limit to this. You can quickly expand production on existing wells or restart mothballed oil wells but to actually pump oil from a completely new well it takes years to do exploration, feasibility studies, organize financing and start production, etc.
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You're neglecting the aspect that the price of oil is largely based on speculation.
 
Australia Sucks said:
What you say is partially true, but there is a limit to this. You can quickly expand production on existing wells or restart mothballed oil wells but to actually pump oil from a completely new well it takes years to do exploration, feasibility studies, organize financing and start production, etc.
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Big oil already knows where the good oil is. They know which spots are feasible, they have funding, etc. Everything in the oil industry is held up by politics and nothing else.
 
Explosion in a Rheinmetall plant in Spain. This is the first such incident this year - last year there were several munition plants that caught fire.

Explosion at Rheinmetall military plant in Spain, supplying shells to Ukrainian Armed Forces
▪️The incident occurred at the plant of Rheinmetall Expal Munitions, a company specializing in the production of artillery ammunition, mortar shells and medium-caliber shells, as well as rocket propulsion systems.
▪️The detonation at the plant caused two fires, one of which covered about 1,000 m² and the other about 2,000 m², including the plant’s territory.
▪️As a result of the incident, 6 men aged 30 to 52 were injured.
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RedLagoon said:
He should ask his wife.
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Jokes aside. Most of the military aid funds remained in the States to: replenish depleted stockpiles, finance all support operations (logistics, intel, comms, etc.) and last but not least, feed the DC blob. So it's not surprising that Zelensky didn't get all that cash, but it's still hilarious to watch how flustered he is - like he's afraid that someone might come knocking on his door and asking for the money.
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