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It_Is_My_Time said:
He makes some good points. The GOP is fumbling this and as bad as Kamala is, she will have certain demographics locked down.

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Not sure about his points, but I am concerned about the election.

Kamala is getting a huge, coordinated boost from the media, who are frantically printing stories with every possible gaslighting angle. The leftist base is eating it up. They doesn't care whether the actual candidate is competent, or who's running things behind the scenes, they just care about having someone they can feel excited about voting for. I live in a blue state, have acquaintances who are dyed-in-the-wool leftist retards, and the base is energized and celebratory right now.

The assassination attempt is indeed yesterday's news. The most recent "NPC update" is that it was actually not a bullet that struck Trump but a shard of broken glass. The leftists didn't have a good answer for Trump's bravery and heroism in the face of death, and so the "shrapnel" story allows them to go back to thinking that Trump is fake and bad without suffering through cognitive dissonance.

Add to that what will certainly be some amount of voter fraud, and my feeling at the moment is that the election will be tighter than many here would hope.

The one consolation is that things change quickly in an election year. We'll see how long the exicitement around Kamala lasts.
 
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Brewer said:
Not sure about his points, but I am concerned about the election. Kamala is getting a huge boost from the media, who are running every possible gaslighting angle at double speed. The leftist base is eating it up - they doesn't care whether the actual candidate is competent, or who's running things behind the scenes, they just care about having someone they can get excited about voting for. I live in a blue state, have acquaintances who are dyed-in-the-wool leftist retards, and my impression is that the base is energized and celebratory right now.

Add to that what will certainly be some amount of voter fraud and I think the election will be tighter than many here would hope.
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The GOP had 2022 in the bag as well, then the Supreme Court, for no reason at all, decided to make a decision on Roe v. Wade and it turned the tide majorly in a non-presidential election. That is a huge momentum shift against the GOP. Abortion might be the biggest driver of voter turnout of all the issues on the ballot. Women are passionate about it to a level that is beyond understanding.

Just tonight I heard two women loudly exclaim abortion rights were on the line and how important it was to vote blue. This is a place where you don't hear politics all that often. And these women are past the child rearing age. But the sisterhood bond drives them to protect other women as well.

Kamala is going to be tough to beat. Simply because it is a popularity contests and 54% of the voters are women.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Women are passionate about it to a level that is beyond understanding.
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It's demonic.

It_Is_My_Time said:
Kamala is going to be tough to beat. Simply because it is a popularity contests and 54% of the voters are women.
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Nothing surprises me anymore. If the GOP fumbles the bag, then I won't be shocked. Some of you have said that the man behind the curtain has already picked Trump, but I'm not convinced of that yet. I could see them stealing it in front of your face again and continuing full speed with their agenda. You say that they don't want to overplay their hand. But they've been overplaying their hand with zero repercussions. They know that you won't rise up to stop them anyway, so why wouldn't they just steal it again?
 
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Trump campaign won't commit to Harris debate until Dems decide on nominee​


  • Cheung named former President Obama as he argued that there's "a strong sense by many" in the Democrat Party that Harris "cannot beat President Trump" and "they are still holding out" for someone better.
  • "Therefore, it would be inappropriate to schedule things with Harris because Democrats very well could still change their minds," Cheung added.
 
Keep in mind that this is currently Kamala's peak in popularity, with the entire media machine and Democrat party running cover for her in highly coordinated fashion. It's only going to go downhill for her from here. They can't change the fact that she's a fundamentally terrible candidate, unlikeable, unintelligent and simply way out of her depth. There's a reason she got blown out of the water in the 2020 Dem primary before winning even a single delegate. She is simply a very unappealing candidate. Trump would be utterly foolish to not debate her. The Dems best strategy is to treat her just like they did Biden - keep her from talking in front of the camera as much as possible and just sell the idea of her, because the more people see of Kamala, the less they like her.
 
scorpion said:
Keep in mind that this is currently Kamala's peak in popularity, with the entire media machine and Democrat party running cover for her in highly coordinated fashion. It's only going to go downhill for her from here. They can't change the fact that she's a fundamentally terrible candidate, unlikeable, unintelligent and simply way out of her depth. There's a reason she got blown out of the water in the 2020 Dem primary before winning even a single delegate. She is simply a very unappealing candidate. Trump would be utterly foolish to not debate her. The Dems best strategy is to treat her just like they did Biden - keep her from talking in front of the camera as much as possible and just sell the idea of her, because the more people see of Kamala, the less they like her.
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Do people really care about likability anymore or are they voting more along party lines? Trump is cool and all but wouldn't say I'm voting for him because of his likability. My mom wasn't even going to vote and now I'm sure she will swing for the female. I see blacks doing this as well and pulling back votes they may have lost because of Biden. Do low IQ voters care about intelligence?
Our reference point for this is obviously Hillary 2016 but I think things have changed since then especially with issues like abortion.
 
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SeekingTruth said:
Do people really care about likability anymore or are they voting more along party lines?
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Kamala isn't a people person, which is why she is not likeable and prefers to hang out with A-Listers, Hollywood Celebrities, powerful people, etc. Also, she has the highest turnover ratio where a lot of her former staff left or quit due to toxic work environment and Kamala's being a difficult boss to work for. Go figure.

This new Kamala ad - and her fakery - is cringeworthy.



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Earlier this week, Michelle and I called our friend @KamalaHarris. We told her we think she’ll make a fantastic President of the United States, and that she has our full support. At this critical moment for our country, we’re going to do everything we can to make sure she wins in November. We hope you’ll join us.
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‘Zuckbucks’ Group Is Coaching Election Officials On How To Talk About Democrats’ Silent Coup​

A left-wing nonprofit that interfered in the 2020 election to Democrats’ benefit is coaching election offices on how to address concerns about leftist oligarchs’ silent coup to replace Joe Biden as the party’s presidential nominee.

On Tuesday, the Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) sent an email to its newsletter subscribers highlighting Biden’s Sunday exit from the 2024 race and informing election officials that “voters and media outlets will be looking to you for guidance in the coming weeks, and you will play a powerful role in shaping this emerging story.”

“Your community is likely wondering how the Presumptive Democratic Nominee’s decision to drop out of the presidential race will impact voter’s election experience,” the email reads. “Proactive communication from your office to the public and the media will help assure your community and inspire confidence in the ongoing democratic process.”

During the 2020 election, CTCL and the Center for Election Innovation and Research collectively received hundreds of millions of dollars from Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg. The left-wing nonprofits then dumped these “Zuckbucks” into election offices across the country and were used to advance Democrat-backed voting policies. Heavily directed at “blue” municipalities, the effort effectively amounted to a giant Democrat get-out-the-vote operation.

In its Tuesday email, CTCL offered to “support” election offices in “navigating” Biden’s exit from the 2024 campaign by providing linked resources from a bevy of left-wing organizations. This included a list of talking points devised by the Partnership for Large Election Jurisdictions (PLEJ) that address potential questions voters and media may have about the 2024 election following Biden’s dropping out.

According to InfluenceWatch, PLEJ is “a membership-based coalition open to election officials and administrators representing jurisdictions that have a population greater than 300,000 or that are one of the three largest jurisdictions in their state.” Last year, the group signed onto a letter written by the left-wing Election Infrastructure Initiative — a CTCL venture — that attacked “[c]ongressional Republicans for opposing additional federal funds for state and local elections.” PLEJ has also “received funding” from the left-wing Democracy Fund, according to InfluenceWatch.

CTCL also provided election officials with communication resources from Democrat-aligned organizations such as The Elections Group and U.S. Alliance for Election Excellence, described as an $80 million venture launched by CTCL in 2022 to “systematically influence every aspect of election administration” and advance Democrat-backed voting policies in local election offices. The Elections Group is a participating member of the Alliance, along with a host of other entities that are also left-leaning.

CTCL isn’t solely coaching election officials on how to grapple with Biden’s exit, however. The group is also seemingly aiming to collect information from election offices and establish relationships with them.

Enclosed in the Tuesday newsletter is a link to a survey election officials can fill out to share how the Biden-Harris candidate swap “will impact [their] work” and inform CTCL of “what additional support would be helpful … in the coming days and weeks.” The survey includes several statements officials are asked to rate on a one-to-five scale, with one signifying “strongly disagree,” and five signifying “strongly agree.”

Among the statements are: “The change in presumptive nominee will greatly impact my office’s workflow,” and “My office understands the processes in state and federal law that apply to the change in a presumptive nominee.”

The survey further includes two response-style questions, in which election officials are asked to disclose “[h]ow, if at all, [they] anticipate [their] office’s workflow will be significantly impacted” by Biden’s exit and “[w]hat, if anything … [their] office need right now to prepare for these changes.”

The attempt to collect personal information from election offices closely mirrors prior questionnaires CTCL has distributed in the past.
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'Zuckbucks' Org Coaches Election Offices On Handling Biden Exit

The Center for Tech and Civic Life sent talking points to election officials on how to address Biden's exit from the 2024 race.
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Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) - InfluenceWatch

The Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) is a Chicago, Illinois-based center-left election reform advocacy group formed in 2012. The organization pushes for left-of-center voting policies and election administration. It has a wide reach into local elections offices across the nation and is...
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PLEJ Talking Points - Candidate Replacement 07.21.24

Overview As an election official, reassuring voters, media, and other community stakeholders during and around candidate changes is important. This document includes generic responses and tips based on best practices to help guide your discussions with key audiences. We encourage you to customiz...
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budoslavic said:
Kamala isn't a people person, which is why she is not likeable and prefers to hang out with A-Listers, Hollywood Celebrities, powerful people, etc. Also, she has the highest turnover ratio where a lot of her former staff left or quit due to toxic work environment and Kamala's being a difficult boss to work for. Go figure.

This new Kamala ad - and her fakery - is cringeworthy.



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I honestly do not see most people seeing this ad as cringe worthy. She might be kind of strange but she appears joyful which is the contrast to how Trump is portrayed. You're coming at it from a rightward angle and not neutral.
She's speaking more clearly than Biden and that's a win alone for most of them.
 
That’s odd, sort of, that Kamala’s vp office is hard to work for. Kamala has had nothing or next to nothing on her calendar the past 4 years

. Yes I get she has a prickly personality but for a do nothing job? For the Oval Office? I don’t really want to think about what made her staff quit
 
SeekingTruth said:
I honestly do not see most people seeing this ad as cringe worthy. She might be kind of strange but she appears joyful which is the contrast to how Trump is portrayed. You're coming at it from a rightward angle and not neutral.
She's speaking more clearly than Biden and that's a win alone for most of them.
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She doesn't show an ounce of enthusiasm. Most scripted fake person you can imagine.

A normal person would be very excited to receive such a high profile endorsement, but she barely blinks an eye. She is an entitled princess, toxic to the core.
 
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