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An 1855 map of "Palestine". At the bottom of the map:
Entered according to Act of Congress in the year 1855 by J.H. Colton & Co. in the Clerks of the District Court of the United States for the Southern District of New York.

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An 1880 map of "A New Map of Palestine or The Holy Land". At the bottom of the map:
Entered according to Act of Congress in the year 1880 by S. Augustus Mitchell in the Office of the Librarian of Congress at Washington.

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^he got a good 20m away, you can see his blurry figure running away fast if you watch frame by frame. He most likely survived that episode, but maybe not completely unscathed... Balls of steel!

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I see. I saw a black silhouette on the left side of the explosion and assumed that was him.

Still not convinced he made it though. At 0.33 he was found out and a shot rang. At that point he was placing the bomb under (?) the tank. Three seconds later it exploded.
 
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A US airbase in Erbil, Iraqi Kurdistan, got hit with a suicide drone by Kataib Hezbollah. 3 US soldiers were wounded, one is in critical condition.



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Yesterday there was a succesful car bomb in Netanya. The Israeli authorities have placed a gag order on the identity of the deceased. Some speculate that it was an Israeli intelligence officer, yet car bombings are rather common in the Israeli underworld.



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An Australian citizen was killed due to Israeli bombardments in Lebanon.

 
A US airbase in Erbil, Iraqi Kurdistan, got hit with a suicide drone by Kataib Hezbollah. 3 US soldiers were wounded, one is in critical condition.



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(Not directed at you ...just an observation/opinion)

It's stories like this that have me feeling zero remorse about Trump greenlighting the killing of Sulemani and other Quds force dudes getting killed.
War is shared of gray and it's almost never the political Generals or politicians who suffer.

Hope the Soldiers heal quickly, aren't named for life.

Say whatever you want about the .mil complex here... But the servicemen are typically white, rural, southerners doing what they can to get out of life circumstances OR have a family legacy of service and are continuing in their family history.
 
(Not directed at you ...just an observation/opinion)

It's stories like this that have me feeling zero remorse about Trump greenlighting the killing of Sulemani and other Quds force dudes getting killed.
War is shared of gray and it's almost never the political Generals or politicians who suffer.

Hope the Soldiers heal quickly, aren't named for life.

Say whatever you want about the .mil complex here... But the servicemen are typically white, rural, southerners doing what they can to get out of life circumstances OR have a family legacy of service and are continuing in their family history.

The Iraqi government passed a resolution on January 5, 2020 to expel all foreign troops from its soil. Ergo the US has been illegally squatting on Iraqi territory for nearly 4 years now.

The US has misbehaved so badly in Iraq that that country will hate the US for decades to come. In that sense the continued visual presence (continued with frequent attacks, some high profile) is counterproductive. It is radicalizing Iraqis and pushing them towards hardline political and religious movements.

From my experience ordinary Iraqis are well informed. They know why the US is there, what their goals are and how they act. Several Iraqis told me in 2016-2017 already that ISIS was a US creation, and recently it has come to light that the US us trying to stir up sectarian strife again - this time using its former enemy Moqtada al Sadr as a tool to split the Shia block into two and hence weaken it. The split would be orchestrated/ manipulated by creating division between the nationalist Iraqi Shia wing (centered around al Sadr) and the Iran aligned Shia wing.

People interested in this should read up on the case of Elizabeth Tsurkov, a dual Russian-Israeli citizen who was a very vocal Assad critic on Twitter during the Syria Civil War. Tsurkov is fluent in Arabic. At that point she was already working for the Mossad/CIA. In 2023 her name resurfaced as 'she had gone missing in Iraq'. It was later found out she was very active in and around mosques frequented by high level people from the Sadrist Movement. In November Kataib Hezbollah (Iran aligned paramilitary force) released a video wherein they show Tsurkov, they got her.

Long story short, the US is not a force of good in Iraq. Their agenda is not kosher. The Iraqis don't want them there hence they need to leave.



 
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(Not directed at you ...just an observation/opinion)

It's stories like this that have me feeling zero remorse about Trump greenlighting the killing of Sulemani and other Quds force dudes getting killed.
War is shared of gray and it's almost never the political Generals or politicians who suffer.

Hope the Soldiers heal quickly, aren't named for life.

Say whatever you want about the .mil complex here... But the servicemen are typically white, rural, southerners doing what they can to get out of life circumstances OR have a family legacy of service and are continuing in their family history.
I believe the vast majority being white, rural and trying to escape the poverty of white rural areas is quickly disappearing. I know more and more of these types are refusing to join. That is the purpose of the internet, to spread the word to keep these men from fighting for satan's army.

Killing Sulemani, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and the Abraham Accords, all under Trump, have only caused more resentment and more motivation to advance their technology so they can hurt our soldiers. And now here we are, they are hurting our soldiers in our own bases that Trump was supposed to clear out. So, we have to be the wise ones and say "no more" to endless wars. No more fighting for satain's army, spreading porn, sodomy, usury, and women's rights, and anything else that will destroy a once nice society.
 
The Iraqi government passed a resolution on January 5, 2020 to expel all foreign troops from its soil. Ergo the US has been illegally squatting on Iraqi territory for nearly 4 years now.

The US has misbehaved so badly in Iraq that that country will hate the US for decades to come. In that sense the continued visual presence (continued with frequent attacks, some high profile) is counterproductive. It is radicalizing Iraqis and pushing them towards hardline political and religious movements.

From my experience ordinary Iraqis are well informed. They know why the US is there, what their goals are and how they act. Several Iraqis told me in 2016-2017 already that ISIS was a US creation, and recently it has come to light that the US us trying to stir up sectarian strife again - this time using its former enemy Moqtada al Sadr as a tool to split the Shia block into two and hence weaken it. The split would be orchestrated/ manipulated by creating division between the nationalist Iraqi Shia wing (centered around al Sadr) and the Iran aligned Shia wing.

People interested in this should read up on the case of Elizabeth Tsurkov, a dual Russian-Israeli citizen who was a very vocal Assad critic on Twitter during the Syria Civil War. Tsurkov is fluent in Arabic. At that point she was already working for the Mossad/CIA. In 2023 her name resurfaced as 'she had gone missing in Iraq'. It was later found out she was very active in and around mosques frequented by high level people from the Sadrist Movement. In November Kataib Hezbollah (Iran aligned paramilitary force) released a video wherein they show Tsurkov, they got her.

Long story short, the US is not a force of good in Iraq. Their agenda is not kosher. The Iraqis don't want them there hence they need to leave.




Fundamentally agree on the premise. We should be out of there. I'm not suggesting our interventions in Syria/Iraq/ Libya are a good thing.

Erbil was a command center used during the ISIS/Mosul campaign...

Until we leave however, I'm going to decry loss of any US serviceman.

I believe the vast majority being white, rural and trying to escape the poverty of white rural areas is quickly disappearing. I know more and more of these types are refusing to join. That is the purpose of the internet, to spread the word to keep these men from fighting for satan's army.

Killing Sulemani, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and the Abraham Accords, all under Trump, have only caused more resentment and more motivation to advance their technology so they can hurt our soldiers. And now here we are, they are hurting our soldiers in our own bases that Trump was supposed to clear out. So, we have to be the wise ones and say "no more" to endless wars. No more fighting for satain's army, spreading porn, sodomy, usury, and women's rights, and anything else that will destroy a once nice society.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts all 3 serviceman hit where white.

I'm not in favor of interventions. And I'm obviously against the women military/woke bs and all that.

70 percent of US Active duty is still white... So you're assumption is wrong as far as quickly disappearing.
 
I'll bet you dollars to donuts all 3 serviceman hit where white.

I'm not in favor of interventions. And I'm obviously against the women military/woke bs and all that.

70 percent of US Active duty is still white... So you're assumption is wrong as far as quickly disappearing.
I would guess they were White as well, though I guess we don't know. I know that when Iraq kicked off in 2003, our military was around 85% White, so it is trending in the right direction as far as I am concerned.

I don't want our soldiers hurt and the fact they are in harms way is something we must use our 1A to stand against. We also must use our 1A to prevent as many people, of all races, from signing up to fight in satan's army. Hopefully recruitment and retainment remain a huge issue for our military.
 
I don't look at it like that at all ... And I honestly can't see why people don't see the obvious here:

[Alex Jones] is pointing out the things within the edge of the Overton window that are still edgy but will ultimately be adopted.

I hear your point. I wish he'd name the Jewish element more... But if you're already aware... nothing he says dissuades you from what you already know. It just connects other dots.

He's done more to get baby boomers to wake up in 911 than anyone
The best way to view (not just Alex Jones, but any of these people who are endlessly debated by their fans and detractors page after page), is the advice my old pastor gave at the end of every sermon: Remember, Seek out only the Good, and leave the rest behind.

There is a lot of good that AJ has woken people up to over the years. There is also a lot of silliness (Chicoms, Arabs run Hollywood, etc.). People love to endlessly debate whether public figures are controlled or just have a really bad blind spot. (I'm also guilty of this by the way, as I have a hard time seeing how someone as "smart" (assuming he is actually smart, of which there is little evidence) as Elon Musk, can also be so dumb/clueless on issues).

The answer is we can never know, but in my experience, there is NO ONE who seems to be beyond criticism (Andrew Anglin is probably the person who is right on the most issues of any voice I know, but he is basically an alcoholic and is pretty extreme on the woman question (I don't mind people who are more extreme than me--that actually helps me settle in to a reasonable position on things)).

So it doesn't really matter if David Icke means literal lizard people from another planet (seems unlikely) or using a euphemism for Jews (it seems obvious he is smart enough to know you cannot name them), or whether Alex Jones cannot or will not tell the truth about one issue (Jews are really THE most important issue, so I do get the criticism about him on this point, and basically whatever things in the world you don't like, Jews are invariably behind it). The point is, you take the knowledge / inspiration / wisdom from someone and forget the rest.

Otherwise you get into these debates where people are naturally drawn to different topics and argue about who they "like" or "distrust." Some people just don't care about 911 you know? Those kinds of people may not like AJ but maybe they care about another topic that Scott Ritter or Kanye or even Jordan Peterson discuss and there is some truth from all of them. I remember first discovering as a teenager about the JFK assassination and being surprised when people didn't care to discuss the 1963 American coup. But people just like (and dislike) different things. I look at the Scott Ritter sexual stuff and just kind of shrug my shoulders like, what else do you expect from this society? But I was also exposed to a lot of degenerate sexual PUA stuff and I'm like yeah that seems about normal in 2023 Weimerica.
Ritter was forecasting the US's "imminent" invasion of Iran and I have heard him saying that several other times over the last 20+ years (including once about a year ago). These instances were him speaking live on air so I don't have "sources" to quote. Anyway, he got that one wrong.
Got it wrong?
The GAE has been foaming at the mouth to destroy Iran for decades. Remember, America overthrew their democratically elected government and installed an autocracy (that's just the values of the Rules Based Order, Goy.

Iran was a prosperous, peaceful, white-presenting democracy until the US came in and destroyed them through assassination and subversion. Always remember this when people say "Israel is the only democracy in the mideast."



Anyway, destroying Iran and Russia are the two biggest goals of the GAE, and have been for decades. In the early days of the Russia-Ukraine conflict I was worried, due to all the American propaganda, that Russia was going to fail and the world would likely enter a dark ages, as we did several hundred years ago. Putin is truly the savior of Western Civilization on this point alone. But listen to Lindsey Graham or Turtleface McConnell or Condoleeza Rice or Victoria Nuland and they make it clear that destroying Iran and Russia are their primary focus (far higher than doing anything for the American people).

Then there was the Stuxnet operation where we sabotaged their research, and blew up a lot of their equipment, and the murder of General Soleimani when he was a guest of Iraq, and I would also throw in all the Israeli assassinations of Iranians because if anyone else acted that way (Russia lol), the US would go nuts. Any one of these would be an act of war, but of course Iran doesn't have nukes (yet; fingers crossed), and are not going to start a war with a nuclear power if they can help it.

In fact, many pundits believe that if Hillary Clinton were elected instead of Trump, we would have had war with Iran, and this is probably the best facet of Trump's election by far. I don't know who Ritter supported in the last election, but it seems likely he was warning voters against this possibility.

Or just listen to Wesley Clark himself. Remember the 7 countries targeted for American invasion?



The point of all these people warning us is not so they can come out like a minstrel later and say "woo hoo look at me lah lah lah lah I'm a psychic crystal ball fortune teller." The point of the warning is to PREVENT war with Iran, and therefore Ritter and anyone else warning of this should be CONGRATULATED ON THEIR SUCCESS.

A lot of the things Alex Jones has warned us about never came to be. Remember, the Obama regime's plan for invasion of Syria? That wasn't a "wrong call"--instead AJ deserves a lot of credit, and he may have singlehandedly prevented the invasion of Syria, as he helped organize active troops taking anonymous photos covering their face but with messages stating "I will not risk my life fighting peaceful Syrians for Israel" and posting that to social media.

It's stories like this that have me feeling zero remorse about Trump greenlighting the killing of Sulemani and other Quds force dudes getting killed.
War is shared of gray and it's almost never the political Generals or politicians who suffer.

Hope the Soldiers heal quickly, aren't named for life.

Say whatever you want about the .mil complex here... But the servicemen are typically white, rural, southerners doing what they can to get out of life circumstances OR have a family legacy of service and are continuing in their family history.
The logic here is that because an honorable man who humbly took up the calling to become a leader among his people, opposed the invasion of degenerate Godless invaders and was cowardly and illegally murdered (black letter law clearly states it is illegal for a commander in chief to assassinate foreign leaders in this way, more proof that the DemonRats could have legitmately impeached Trump if any of this stuff was real) we should celebrate his murder? A man, by the way, who was instrumental in fighting ISIS in the early days of the war on terror?

For the record, the Iranian regime is the only "good" force in the whole region, outside I suppose the Taliban, who just want to be left alone to do their own thing. If the US wants to pick sides (we should not be picking sides, we have WAY too many problems at home and even if we didn't we are not the masters of the universe), they should throw in with Iran and Afghanistan and sanction every other country there (Saddam- era Iraq and Qadaffi-era Libya were ok but today those countries are also disasters).

I'm a pretty hard core white pride kind of guy, but even I draw the line at "Oh yeah some white people were over there immorrally harassing and bombing and murdering some brown people but I'm gonna cheer them on because of their race." The American mideast adventurism is pure evil, period, and I don't support anyone over there murdering, stealing, bombing, raping, or torturing, no matter how pure their Bavarian Phenotype is.

And blacks are greatly overrepresented in the American military, not that it makes their actions any more or less acceptable.

General Soleimani is probably the last honorable figure I can think of in the mideast (precisely why he was murdered by cowardly snarky Judeans who dropped bombs on him while he was a guest of the Iraqi government, an act of war, to say nothing of its immorality). He was often filmed consoling injured or orphaned Iranian kids, not at all the type of Ivory Tower general that is the norm today, and was a Godly and compassionate man. Here is a letter he penned to his daughter, to be read in case of his death in the cause of serving God and his people.

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/480394/Letter-of-Hajj-Qassem-to-his-daughter-Fatemeh

Long story short, the US is not a force of good in Iraq. Their agenda is not kosher. The Iraqis don't want them there hence they need to leave.

The US is not a force for good anywhere in the world. Not even at home.
I often wonder if I would support an American Empire in the way I would have supported any of the first three Reichs / Empires, as positive forces in the world, and my imagination just isn't that powerful. I honestly don't know.
 
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I would guess they were White as well, though I guess we don't know. I know that when Iraq kicked off in 2003, our military was around 85% White, so it is trending in the right direction as far as I am concerned.

I don't want our soldiers hurt and the fact they are in harms way is something we must use our 1A to stand against. We also must use our 1A to prevent as many people, of all races, from signing up to fight in satan's army. Hopefully recruitment and retainment remain a huge issue for our military.

Going forward, look for the PTB to fill the growing recruitment shortfall with naturalized latino illegals. The US Army is going to start looking like a Guatemalan militia or an East LA gang.
 
I would guess they were White as well, though I guess we don't know. I know that when Iraq kicked off in 2003, our military was around 85% White, so it is trending in the right direction as far as I am concerned.

I don't want our soldiers hurt and the fact they are in harms way is something we must use our 1A to stand against. We also must use our 1A to prevent as many people, of all races, from signing up to fight in satan's army. Hopefully recruitment and retainment remain a huge issue for our military.

Brother you talk about not wanting our soldiers hurt then in other threads you root for the collapse of your country to save China and Russia.

What do you think is going to happen exactly if your wishes come true? It won't just be soldiers dying either....try your loved ones in addition to them.
 
Brother you talk about not wanting our soldiers hurt then in other threads you root for the collapse of your country to save China and Russia.

What do you think is going to happen exactly if your wishes come true? It won't just be soldiers dying either....try your loved ones in addition to them.
By what rationale do you believe harm will come to Americans if our ability to forcibly dominate the world stops?
What group of people do you fear are going to dominate you and what is the reasoning for this?
Loved ones dying? Really? Are the chicoms going to invade our continent and force us all to make iphones in factories with suicide nets?
Why would they do that? What is their motivation?
Is the GAE a force for good or evil?
 
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