The future of flying

This may be an odd question, and I don't want to derail the thread (so please let me know if I need to move it or make a new thread), but what is the legality of the TSA having TSAPre for people who can pay for it?

Is it me, or does this create some kind of Constitutional violation? I believe the TSA as a whole is a misstep on the Bill of Rights (Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized).

How do they justify allowing a segment of the populace to pay a fee and reduce their wait times by skipping out on what the normal lines require (taking shoes off, etc.)? Doesn't this create a caste system of travelers (those who can pay and those who can't)? And is it technically illegal for the government to do so, since we all pay for the TSA anyway?

I've always wondered if there is potential for a massive discrimination lawsuit here.
 
Thomas More said:
I don't have kids, so it's a hypothetic question for me. However, I will continue to fly. I think the odds of an aircraft accident are still very low. I will also continue to drive my car, which has its own risks.
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Thing is if there's something wrong with my car most of the time I can pull over, I'm also the pilot of the car so when I have my whole family in the thing it makes me more devoted to their safety rather than some airline / safety committee.

Not sure, I've been planning this trip for years finally got the funds together and now these planes are falling out of the skies.

My wife thinks my faith isn't strong enough, women can be right sometimes.
 
RedLagoon said:
Thing is if there's something wrong with my car most of the time I can pull over, I'm also the pilot of the car so when I have my whole family in the thing it makes me more devoted to their safety rather than some airline / safety committee.

Not sure, I've been planning this trip for years finally got the funds together and now these planes are falling out of the skies.

My wife thinks my faith isn't strong enough, women can be right sometimes.
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This involves faith in other human beings, not faith in God.

My take on all of this:

Now might be the last time for several years to fly.

This is because the pilot pipeline takes years of training. The last remaining decent pilots are still in the air, but under them is a wave of DEI shit-for-brains coming up.

The DEI folks will be pushed out by the end of the Trump admin, and replaced with good pilots again. But those good pilots are just going to start this year. It takes around 10K hours to train a good airline pilot. So the new guys starting today might not be ready for another 3 years.

I'd say from within the next 3 months are barely safe, and then avoid for about 3 years, and things will be good again.
 
Black Hawk had key safety system turned off during deadly DC crash, senator says
A key safety system was turned off on the US Army helicopter that collided with an American Airlines regional jet last week near Washington’s Reagan Airport, killing 67.

Senate Commerce Committee Chair Ted Cruz (R-Texas) told reporters the Black Hawk helicopter had turned off its automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast (ADS-B), which is permitted for military aircraft.

“This was a training mission, so there was no compelling national security reason for ADS-B to be turned off,” Cruz said after a briefing from the National Transportation Safety Board and Federal Aviation Administration.
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Black Hawk had key safety system turned off during deadly DC crash, senator says

The collision was the deadliest US air disaster in more than 20 years.
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Landing gear collapsed and unfortunately his trajectory was straight into the parked jet.

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At least one dead after jet crashes into another plane at Scottsdale Airport in Arizona

At least one person was killed when a plane veered off the runway and crashed into another plane at Scottsdale Airport in Arizona on Monday afternoon.
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RedLagoon said:
Would anyone here fly internationally now with your kids on board? Serious question.
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I kind of have to.

We just came back from Japan, and are heading back there in again in a few months. Last time we flew Air Canada, which is normally a good airline with many ex air force. But this also meant we flew in and out of Narita, which isn't ideal for many reasons, and reinforced why we have avoided it for almost 20 years.

This time around I am browsing some duty free in Narita when I hear this super annoying lady talking with the duty free. I can't see her, but her voice (trying to be heard by everyone, you know what I mean) is brutal. Some vocal fry, but also with uptalk. I think, "I really hope she isn't on my flight". Then I hear, "As a female pilot..." and my heart sinks as I instinctively know that she will be one of our pilots. I have my family with me as well.

So now we are back to paying a premium to fly ANA. Also, direct flights only and only with no pozzed airlines. ANA is still old school and the pilots are all ex air force and they probably still get to hand pick all the stewardesses. We fly into Haneda which is also nice and close to our place in Tokyo and saves us the hours of commuting to Narita. But the cost is getting pretty outrageous for a family to fly now, so I am with @Samseau that flying is going to be a thing of the past for most people in the coming years.
 
Laner said:
I kind of have to.

We just came back from Japan, and are heading back there in again in a few months. Last time we flew Air Canada, which is normally a good airline with many ex air force. But this also meant we flew in and out of Narita, which isn't ideal for many reasons, and reinforced why we have avoided it for almost 20 years.

This time around I am browsing some duty free in Narita when I hear this super annoying lady talking with the duty free. I can't see her, but her voice (trying to be heard by everyone, you know what I mean) is brutal. Some vocal fry, but also with uptalk. I think, "I really hope she isn't on my flight". Then I hear, "As a female pilot..." and my heart sinks as I instinctively know that she will be one of our pilots. I have my family with me as well.

So now we are back to paying a premium to fly ANA. Also, direct flights only and only with no pozzed airlines. ANA is still old school and the pilots are all ex air force and they probably still get to hand pick all the stewardesses. We fly into Haneda which is also nice and close to our place in Tokyo and saves us the hours of commuting to Narita. But the cost is getting pretty outrageous for a family to fly now, so I am with @Samseau that flying is going to be a thing of the past for most people in the coming years.
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We looked at going to Japan but they only fly to Narita unfortunately. At least it's Qantas or Air Japan but their pilots just got done being drunk before flying off in Melbourne. It's a mess and not sure what to do but I've set my sight on leaving this country before it's too late as you and Sam say.

There are no Ferries going out of this place so they force you on a plane.
 
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