The Destruction of Modern Women

[GodfatherPartTwo]

We live in a culture of immediate gratification and this plays a huge role in the dysfunction between the sexes.

That's just fallen human nature. The lie of the devil is that you can eat the fruit without the curse. When you understand that, all of the behaviors that our societies engage in suddenly make all the sense in the world. Technology is man's means of eliminating the curse, but the curse can never be truly removed. If anything, technology has only exacerbated the curse. Only in Christ can the curse be defeated.

Fornication is sex without any of the self-sacrifice that comes with it, such as marriage, family building, etc. We have gotten so bad that we are willing to literally sacrifice others for the sake of our own pleasure.

My problem with strict asceticism is that it is self-sacrifice unto itself. In that sense, there is no functional difference between the monk who practices self-denial and the hedonist who plunges himself into licentiousness; an abiding functional society cannot be built on either. Self-sacrifice is for the sake of others, for the koinonia. That is the balance that must be maintained if the society is to survive.

 

[SeekingGod]

That's just fallen human nature. The lie of the devil is that you can eat the fruit without the curse. When you understand that, all of the behaviors that our societies engage in suddenly make all the sense in the world. Technology is man's means of eliminating the curse, but the curse can never be truly removed. If anything, technology has only exacerbated the curse. Only in Christ can the curse be defeated.

Fornication is sex without any of the self-sacrifice that comes with it, such as marriage, family building, etc. We have gotten so bad that we are willing to literally sacrifice others for the sake of our own pleasure.

My problem with strict asceticism is that it is self-sacrifice unto itself. In that sense, there is no functional difference between the monk who practices self-denial and the hedonist who plunges himself into licentiousness; an abiding functional society cannot be built on either. Self-sacrifice is for the sake of others, for the koinonia. That is the balance that must be maintained if the society is to survive.

There is a big difference. Most monastic traditions are not strictly ascetic / enclosed in the sense that they completely isolated from the world. There are the Carthusians which are very extreme, but most have an obligation to the path of service. The misconception arises because for periods of time, say they may seem closed off due to solitude and prayer, retreats, etc. but most of the time they are at mass, helping the community, hosting visitors. Don’t take my word for it, contact some and ask to visit, they will be happy to host you.

The question then becomes why perform all that prayer and internal work and not just start with the path of service? Because without it, reactions in more complex situations like day to day human interactions might be less skilled. You greet someone with grace and gratitude and try to help, but they attack you instead. You try to help someone get out of an addiction or habit, but they fall harder back into it. What do you do? How do you react? Can you control your emotions or do you react in a way that pushes them away from you and back into the sin? I doubt there is any spiritual progress using strict hedonism, as it is a pursuit of pleasure and the problem there lies it is easy to become self-deluded.

 

[magoo]

This imperative was given by God at a time that the earth was newly created.

Is that so?

There is nothing wrong with dedication to church life instead. Some can’t marry, others don’t want to because of the bad female situation,

You dedicate your life to church because you have a calling from the Lord. Not because you can´t or don´t want to marry. Whatever this last sentence might mean. The church is not the second best option. Priests and nuns are not leftovers. They were chosen by God.

and they are not lesser human beings as you are implying in your post.

Implying what? People who don´t get married are lesser humans? Who could spew such retarded nonsense.

But I do find this attitude among certain married people with children who act like they are better for no real reason.

Attitude you say.

Yet, when I investigate their lives more thoroughly, it is a farce and illusion, and mostly pride talking with no objective measure for making that determination.

Loooll. What are you a detective? Investigating married people lives? You have a lot of free time dont you?

Because they are used to being authority figures to their children, who hang on every word, they get used to it and think they are authority figures to everyone, which is so absurd I can’t help but laugh in their face.

Go clean your room. Don´t make me say it twice. No internet for you this week.

There are different paths to contentment and salvation:

Even Paul stated this imperative was not for everyone:

“To the unmarried…I say that it is good for them to remain unmarried as I am. But if they are not practicing self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭7‬:‭8‬.

These days we have lost the ability to deal with these passions, but it can be done.

Passions are good. If they are channeled to right endeavours.

Your argument using China as an example makes no sense at all. China is a communistic country with a 2-5% Christian population. How are they are more aligned with God?

You are thick. But there is a lot of people here to help you. I´m not one of them it seems. My only advice is this: Stop making excuses. And be a man.

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

In my world, no one is innocent. When these single men who can't find a wife spend billions of dollars on OF, PH, and all other filth, they perpetuate the hellscape that they find themselves in.

The majority of OF subscribers are middle aged married men. Those are also the ones who are the “whales” and spend the big bucks. The idea that the average young man is on onlyfans spending big bucks is absurd.

Married women who are cunts and don’t put out for their husbands because the husband can’t do something due to “marital rape” laws causes those men to turn to OF and spend money which corrupts those younger women.

 

[SeekingGod]

Is that so?


You dedicate your life to church because you have a calling from the Lord. Not because you can´t or don´t want to marry. Whatever this last sentence might mean. The church is not the second best option. Priests and nuns are not leftovers. They were chosen by God.


Implying what? People who don´t get married are lesser humans? Who could spew such retarded nonsense.


Attitude you say.


Loooll. What are you a detective? Investigating married people lives? You have a lot of free time dont you?


Go clean your room. Don´t make me say it twice. No internet for you this week.


Passions are good. If they are channeled to right endeavours.


You are thick. But there is a lot of people here to help you. I´m not one of them it seems. My only advice is this: Stop making excuses. And be a man.

Your insults aren’t in the spirit of the forum, and your long winded internet fantasy machismo made me laugh out loud at you. Thanks for that.

 

[magoo]

Your insults aren’t in the spirit of the forum, and your long winded internet fantasy machismo made me laugh out loud at you. Thanks for that.

You want me to take your mobile phone also? Try me.

 

[SeekingGod]

You want me to take your mobile phone also? Try me.

You post like an overweight Gen Xer with a fragile ego, and an alcohol problem. You’re too easy to figure out from just one post. Now go away or make a valuable contribution to the thread.

 

[magoo]

You post like an overweight Gen Xer with a fragile ego, and an alcohol problem. You’re too easy to figure out from just one post. Now go away or make a valuable contribution to the thread.

That´s it. Go to your room.

Really lovely music



Taking a break. Will write something worthy afterwards. Don´t give up. Scorch the earth. Don´t let jews win. Nobody will hug you like your children. And passing by this gift of joy is a mistake you are making. And we are catholics. We don´t look away. We look at the train wreck and interven.

Search for a women. And stop being a bitch online. Face the bull in real life. Forget internet.

I rarely give orders to my kids. I behave worse than them.

Over and out.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

The majority of OF subscribers are middle aged married men. Those are also the ones who are the “whales” and spend the big bucks. The idea that the average young man is on onlyfans spending big bucks is absurd.

Even so, the average young man is spending time on pornography and hook up culture, perpetuating the cycle.

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

That´s it. Go to your room.

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

The majority of OF subscribers are middle aged married men. Those are also the ones who are the “whales” and spend the big bucks. The idea that the average young man is on onlyfans spending big bucks is absurd.

Very true. Most OF customers are married men. I think this is a fairly well-known statistic at this point. I use Twitter a lot, and sometimes an argument between someone I am following and an OF prostitute will show up in my timeline, and it's very common in those exchanges for the prostitute to gleefully bring this up. They see it as an own towards those who believe in tradition and in the sacraments.

 

[Unending Powerhouse Match]

Even so, the average young man is spending time on pornography and hook up culture, perpetuating the cycle.

Also very true. And the effect of doing these things goes far beyond what is visible. I am convinced that grave sins commited by an individual, such as the use of pornography, have a negative effect on the entire world, metaphysically. The opposite is true also.

"The ontological unity of humanity is such that every separate individual overcoming evil in himself inflicts such a defeat on cosmic evil that its consequences have a beneficial effect on the destinies of the whole world." - Saint Sophrony of Essex

 

[SeekingGod]

That´s it. Go to your room.

Really lovely music



Taking a break. Will write something worthy afterwards. Don´t give up. Scorch the earth. Don´t let jews win. Nobody will hug you like your children. And passing by this gift of joy is a mistake you are making. And we are catholics. We don´t look away. We look at the train wreck and interven.

Search for a women. And stop being a bitch online. Face the bull in real life. Forget internet.

I rarely give orders to my kids. I behave worse than them.

Over and out.

How is this guy even posting here with continuous insults? What type of religious forum is this? He seems like some type of troll. See this post here.

Post in thread 'Marriage / Established Relationships'

Apr 28, 2024

Exactly this. I was reflecting on my wife's 'journey' through menopause during a long bike ride today and just realising the extent to which my wife is a completely different person to the person I fell in love with. She 100% is not into me anymore, that's for sure, which is weird because in every way, I'm more successful and a better man than when we met.

It leaves me (and I guess a lot of men) in really a really tricky spot. You don't want to break up the marriage because of it because of the detrimental effect it would have on you both financially plus the documented negative...

• magoo

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What type of person posts this type of garbage?

I don’t need your motivational speech and have most likely faced more hardship than you ever have. I didn’t even complain about not getting a woman in this thread, so you can’t even read.

 

[Samseau]

How is this guy even posting here with continuous insults? What type of religious forum is this? He seems like some type of troll. See this post here.

Post in thread 'Marriage / Established Relationships'

Apr 28, 2024

Exactly this. I was reflecting on my wife's 'journey' through menopause during a long bike ride today and just realising the extent to which my wife is a completely different person to the person I fell in love with. She 100% is not into me anymore, that's for sure, which is weird because in every way, I'm more successful and a better man than when we met.

It leaves me (and I guess a lot of men) in really a really tricky spot. You don't want to break up the marriage because of it because of the detrimental effect it would have on you both financially plus the documented negative...

• magoo

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What type of person posts this type of garbage?

I don’t need your motivational speech and have most likely faced more hardship than you ever have. I didn’t even complain about not getting a woman in this thread, so you can’t even read.

He's a sinner like everyone else working on themselves. And your antagonizing him isn't helping, he's actually been far more restrained than you.

At most, the only thing Magoo has said to could be considered an insult is "You're thick," which is borderline insult behavior but contextually isn't enough for me to apply a ban. Thick can also mean stubborn, which isn't quite an insult.

You post like an overweight Gen Xer with a fragile ego, and an alcohol problem. You’re too easy to figure out from just one post. Now go away or make a valuable contribution to the thread.

Making assumptions of others without proof is against the rules as unloving behavior, so please do not do it again. Since this is your first offense I'll let it pass with a verbal warning. If you are going to try and guess who the person writing the words behind is the screen is, either prove it, or try asking a bit about them instead.

Even so, the average young man is spending time on pornography and hook up culture, perpetuating the cycle.

This is like locking a starving man in a room, then placing twinkies in front of him, and afterwards criticizing him for eating garbage food.

Men aren't perpetuating the cycle. Young men are victims of the cycle.

The women just want easy cash, they have no excuse for whoring themselves out either online or in person. At most I can feel sympathy for a whore who is trying to feed her children, and yet Jesus forgave whores much worse than that.

Thus if Christ forgave terrible whores, there is basically nothing we can hold against young men who participate in porn or the hook up culture, since they are merely trying to alleviate their starvation of female love and attention. Likewise women who participate in hook up culture are simply fed lies from birth, so it is easy to have sympathy for them as well.

 

[Steady Hands]

How is this guy even posting here with continuous insults? What type of religious forum is this? He seems like some type of troll. See this post here.

Post in thread 'Marriage / Established Relationships'

Apr 28, 2024

Exactly this. I was reflecting on my wife's 'journey' through menopause during a long bike ride today and just realising the extent to which my wife is a completely different person to the person I fell in love with. She 100% is not into me anymore, that's for sure, which is weird because in every way, I'm more successful and a better man than when we met.

It leaves me (and I guess a lot of men) in really a really tricky spot. You don't want to break up the marriage because of it because of the detrimental effect it would have on you both financially plus the documented negative...

• magoo

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What type of person posts this type of garbage?

I don’t need your motivational speech and have most likely faced more hardship than you ever have. I didn’t even complain about not getting a woman in this thread, so you can’t even read.

Welcome to the forum. I am writing the below because you seem like a poster with passion and some interest in self-reflection.

Beyond the work of mods, the forum relies on community-led governance to build the posting culture and enforce guidelines informally. That said, these combative back and forths never lead anywhere productive. I get that you seem frustrated with recent dialogue above. However, insulting others only works against the rest of your stated positions.

If a poster isn't responding well to you after a couple of posts on a certain topic, you may benefit from considering these options:

1. Take a moment to self-reflect and ask yourself if there is a way to communicate your intended message more effectively;
2. Have fun and don't take it seriously;
3. Simply ignore the poster or thread; and/or,
4. Hit the 'Report' button and explain why you think forum rules have been broken.

Further explanation: https://christisking.cc/threads/nick-fuentes-thread.128/page-42#post-78118

I hope this helps

 

[SeekingGod]

He's a sinner like everyone else working on themselves. And your antagonizing him isn't helping, he's actually been far more restrained than you.

At most, the only thing Magoo has said to could be considered an insult is "You're thick," which is borderline insult behavior but contextually isn't enough for me to apply a ban. Thick can also mean stubborn, which isn't quite an insult.



Making assumptions of others without proof is against the rules as unloving behavior, so please do not do it again. Since this is your first offense I'll let it pass with a verbal warning. If you are going to try and guess who the person writing the words behind is the screen is, either prove it, or try asking a bit about them instead.



This is like locking a starving man in a room, then placing twinkies in front of him, and afterwards criticizing him for eating garbage food.

Men aren't perpetuating the cycle. Young men are victims of the cycle.

The women just want easy cash, they have no excuse for whoring themselves out either online or in person. At most I can feel sympathy for a whore who is trying to feed her children, and yet Jesus forgave whores much worse than that.

Thus if Christ forgave terrible whores, there is basically nothing we can hold against young men who participate in porn or the hook up culture, since they are merely trying to alleviate their starvation of female love and attention. Likewise women who participate in hook up culture are simply fed lies from birth, so it is easy to have sympathy for them as well.

I’m going to exit and not participate here. This is no different than people in corporations saying “No problem guy has been here forever, he’s just like that” while the person continues his drunken vile behavior without changing or any consequences.

For the record, he told me to “stop being a bitch online.”

It’s quite clear he is posting while intoxicated and I stand by everything else I said about him, I have a knack for reading people. Ah well, you guys can have maggot, I mean magoo. Enjoy yourself gentleman, I don’t see this place lasting long with moderators and members like this!

 

[Samseau]

For the record, he told me to “stop being a bitch online.”

Did you hit the report button? I did not see that.

 

[Samseau]

I’m going to exit and not participate here. This is no different than people in corporations saying “No problem guy has been here forever, he’s just like that” while the person continues his drunken vile behavior without changing or any consequences.

For the record, he told me to “stop being a bitch online.”

It’s quite clear he is posting while intoxicated and I stand by everything else I said about him, I have a knack for reading people. Ah well, you guys can have maggot, I mean magoo. Enjoy yourself gentleman, I don’t see this place lasting long with moderators and members like this!

Look brother, you don't need to be so sensitive. Magoo clearly meant you no harm, he simply took issue with not desiring children. That's not a bannable offense, and it's just one man's opinion.

As for no consequences, he's been banned many times, you should have seen him a year ago, he's really improved his posting. If you claim to be a Christian you should understand what patience is.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

I’m going to exit and not participate here.

This could be seen a mile away. This guy (girl?) came in hot a mere 3 weeks ago posting up a know it all storm and got lots of likes but the second he faces some adversity and pushback and a "dislike" or two he takes his ball and goes home.

I have a knack for reading people.

Then maybe you should try reading yourself from time to time Mr. Humility.

Look brother, you don't need to be so sensitive... If you claim to be a Christian you should understand what patience is.

I'm guessing we have a Sister Atheist here. Probably a repeat customer too.