The Destruction of Modern Women

[Douglas Quaid]

The best way to not get angry about modern women like in that video is to not play the game. Do not participate in modern dating. Do not associate with the majority of women. If a woman starts being annoying and self-destructive like most of them inevitably do, do not give her anymore attention. She is doing you a favor by having no shame and making it obvious so early on.

Your mind will remain peaceful and it won't destroy your view of the few nice women left.

 

[analyst_green]

Thing is, this wasn't the case pre-COVID. You'd see a lot of stunning women in that age range before.

They probably all left because they don't want to get stabbed on a subway train or punched in the face walking down the sidewalk. Only the crazies are still there.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

When I was young this dude in France went to China and came back saying China would take over the world. Nobody cared. Fast forward to today. Yellows are buying everything. I used to deal with a lot of nationalities. And chinese are the ones with more money. And they want to conquer the world. People who say chinese are peaceful etc. They never met chinese elite. I knew guys who were friends with chinese premier etc.

I've been saying this for a while and it is going to happen in 50 years, unless the west does a 180, throws away Israel, returns to Christ, and cuts off all immigration, and gets rid of our voting system in favor of a system that only allows men with skin in the game to vote, and trashes our capitalist economy that favors the useless field of finance for a system that supports engineering and innovation of technology.

Women, as always, will just be property of the strongest men. Women no longer see western men as strong because they believe women are their "equals". Women resent this and want men to put them in their place.

 

[Samseau]

I am very familiar having lived there for years.



You do know that the totality of life experience isn’t found on the internet and online content is manipulated by algorithms right? There are plenty of decent women who take their faith seriously and are not posting on TikTok or drinking at bars. They might have a problem with men that seem to come from a promiscuous background or have lots of baggage, that needs to be stated outright. Reading the posts here, I don’t see a lot of self-reflection or evaluation. We all have traits that act as roadblocks. These women may also take more time to be found, instead of signing up on an app.

I recently met two couples from my church that had met on CatholicMatch, one just had a child. One of the men is not conventionally attractive either (he’s average height and bald) The internet would make it seem this is impossible. Real connection between human beings is not determined by a numeric evaluation.

The other thing is…maybe God permanently closing the marriage door is actually a good thing, but the ego doesn’t allow you to realize that. Options are good, limited choices are bad. Open doors are good, closing doors or chapters in life is bad. Sex is good, celibacy is bad. It’s time to challenge these paradigms.

With all due respect, the "good woman" argument is very dismissive of reality. This is reality:

This was in 2019, the numbers are even worse now, which we know because birthrates have declined even further since 2019. Birthrates are indicative of young marriage rates, so if birthrates are going down so are young marriages.

Thus, saying "there are good women" completely ignores the fact that bad women actually outnumber good women, and, the amount of men willing to marry and have children outnumber women who do.

You can compare this to 50 years ago, when getting married was about the same difficulty as obtaining a high school degree. We can look at situations like Russia after WW2, which had just lost 1/3 of its men, yet still had increasing population after WW2. The only reason for decline marriages and babies are women. Women are the bottleneck. Men are pretty much willing to do whatever women want them to do.

So when it comes to self-reflection, a better question would be, "Why do so many men refuse to accept reality?" Because the above is reality and no amount of improvement of the men will fix the situation, but very few men talk about this situation. Most men think like you do, blaming themselves for problems that they don't have ignoring the actual guilty.

As for celibacy, God clearly never intended for 60% of men to become Monks, even St. Paul lamented that fact:

And concerning the things of which ye wrote to me: good [it is] for a man not to touch a woman,

2 and because of the whoredom let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her proper husband;

(1 Cor 7)

Because there is whoredom, let there be marriage. It is not good for humans to be alone, God did not design us this way in the garden, but instead for us to be joined in one flesh with a woman. And when people are apart, they resort to whoredom, which is why OnlyFans and PornHub are so huge, so Paul said, let each man have his own wife, and each woman have her own husband.

A culture where over 50% of women aren't marrying is Sodom and Gomorrah tier, we must be honest here. So while there are good women, they are in the minority, which leaves a majority of men without. And saying the men need to "self-reflect" is completely ignorant of the actual numbers involved.

The only real option is if men go abroad and leverage their status and race overseas, and this is no panacea either. This is our generation's cross to bear, and those who are forced to bear the cross are innocent.

 

[Samseau]

The best way to not get angry about modern women like in that video is to not play the game. Do not participate in modern dating. Do not associate with the majority of women. If a woman starts being annoying and self-destructive like most of them inevitably do, do not give her anymore attention. She is doing you a favor by having no shame and making it obvious so early on.

Your mind will remain peaceful and it won't destroy your view of the few nice women left.

The best way to fight bitterness is to go to Church and send your prayers to God. Ask Him to take away feelings of loneliness, bitterness, and anger, and He will send the Comforter to you.

 

[Uncle Cr33pin]

 

[SeekingGod]

With all due respect, the "good woman" argument is very dismissive of reality. This is reality:

This was in 2019, the numbers are even worse now, which we know because birthrates have declined even further since 2019. Birthrates are indicative of young marriage rates, so if birthrates are going down so are young marriages.

Thus, saying "there are good women" completely ignores the fact that bad women actually outnumber good women, and, the amount of men willing to marry and have children outnumber women who do.

You can compare this to 50 years ago, when getting married was about the same difficulty as obtaining a high school degree. We can look at situations like Russia after WW2, which had just lost 1/3 of its men, yet still had increasing population after WW2. The only reason for decline marriages and babies are women. Women are the bottleneck. Men are pretty much willing to do whatever women want them to do.

So when it comes to self-reflection, a better question would be, "Why do so many men refuse to accept reality?" Because the above is reality and no amount of improvement of the men will fix the situation, but very few men talk about this situation. Most men think like you do, blaming themselves for problems that they don't have ignoring the actual guilty.

As for celibacy, God clearly never intended for 60% of men to become Monks, even St. Paul lamented that fact:



(1 Cor 7)

Because there is whoredom, let there be marriage. It is not good for humans to be alone, God did not design us this way in the garden, but instead for us to be joined in one flesh with a woman. And when people are apart, they resort to whoredom, which is why OnlyFans and PornHub are so huge, so Paul said, let each man have his own wife, and each woman have her own husband.

A culture where over 50% of women aren't marrying is Sodom and Gomorrah tier, we must be honest here. So while there are good women, they are in the minority, which leaves a majority of men without. And saying the men need to "self-reflect" is completely ignorant of the actual numbers involved.

The only real option is if men go abroad and leverage their status and race overseas, and this is no panacea either. This is our generation's cross to bear, and those who are forced to bear the cross are innocent.

I am not ignoring the reality. Bad woman outnumber good women, sure. Ok, my response is so what? It doesn’t mean good women don’t exist or marriages aren’t happening. I see them in my church every week.

Low paying jobs outnumber high paying jobs, yet some people still manage to earn high incomes and succeed.

Out of shape people outnumber in shape people, yet some people still manage to be healthy their entire life older ages.

And if the situation is so bad and the only option is to leave the country, then men should stop complaining in this thread and just leave already, but I’m sure there is a long line of excuses with that too. There was one guy here who claimed to just leave and lived in Georgia with little plan of figuring it out.

The truth is, very little stopped a man who really wanted to do something. The men of yesteryear were not on forums complaining, but making things work.

 

[Samseau]

I am not ignoring the reality. Bad woman outnumber good women, sure. Ok, my response is so what? It doesn’t mean good women don’t exist or marriages aren’t happening. I see them in my church every week.

Low paying jobs outnumber high paying jobs, yet some people still manage to earn high incomes and succeed.

Out of shape people outnumber in shape people, yet some people still manage to be healthy their entire life older ages.

And if the situation is so bad and the only option is to leave the country, then men should stop complaining in this thread and just leave already, but I’m sure there is a long line of excuses with that too. There was one guy here who claimed to just leave and lived in Georgia with little plan of figuring it out.

The truth is, very little stopped a man who really wanted to do something. The men of yesteryear were not on forums complaining, but making things work.

I am not saying meeting a good woman is impossible. I am saying that it is impossible for every man to have a good woman, just like it is impossible for everyone to have a high wage. You're the one claiming that men simply need to work harder:

From reading this thread it seems the single guys are not serious about finding a religious wife. (Note that I put myself in this category, but I already stated that I plan to live like a monk in the world) This is not a criticism just an observation. Despite the low levels of ‘good’ women, if the time taken to write posts here was instead used as an avenue to meet said women, increase social value in a religious organization, travel and integrate, odds would increase. Most give up to soon.

I'm saying that while we should always be trying, we should also be realistic. At least half of American men will not have children, unless they get a foreign wife. You're saying it's a matter of will power, but I'm saying actually no we live in a dark time and there is no solution for all men.

It's still better to try, I agree with you there, but not everyone can win at the lotto. There will be many losers, but at long as we try our best we can have a clean conscious, which is probably the most important component of having a healthy spirit.

Yes, if men just complain all day then their lives are wasted, and one will have a bitter conscious at the end of their life making it very difficult to be united with God. But if men give a sincere effort, yet fail, they will still be at peace with themselves as they were innocent from the outcome.

But the point you seem to miss is that while many men succeed, for every man you see in Church getting married there is another who is not, and that's just the way it is because half the women are choosing extinction.

 

[SiverFox]

I'm going to guess you're not familiar with America's dating scene.


Wanna meet an American woman? Here is your date.

 

[ThinTern]

Women will submit. Either to western men. Or forcefully and much more savagely to other countries. It´s just a matter of time. Time is running against western civilization. Just like it runs on a opened milk box left in a kitchen table.

This is exactly right. God promised to mankind that women would seek our position, yet men would always rule them. It follows logically, that if western men allow women positions of authority, then other men with rule them; I.E. foreign nationals or another nation. And that is exactly what is happening.

In the spirit of going along to get along, most American men haven't stated their true opinions on women in the workplace, military, airline pilots etc. for going on 50 years. Men have just taken it, suppressing what they truly believe which is that women shouldn't occupy leadership positions in a society. Everybody knows this. Nobody does anything about it.

So men have allowed women to lead this nation in every which way. Is it any wonder that 90% of jobs these days are bullshit make-work, semi-welfare jobs? We have women running defense companies like Raytheon and Northrop... Is it any surprise that those companies have strayed from their core mission of building weapons with one purpose, to wreak havoc on our enemies? No it's not surprising at all.

Only a matter of time before strong men take back their rightful place in this nation. Let us hope that is not in the form of an actual invasion or conquest, but it may well be.

 

[FrancisK]

Both things can be true, there are still good women here in the west who haven't bought into the liberal garbage and you can still go to a more conservative country to find a good woman. Just as there are a lot of trash women here in the west there are also lots of trash women in more conservative cultures. I know a lot of good women here in the USA who are extremely conservative and live through the church, got married young and started families....even happening today. I've also known lots of women from supposedly conservative countries who were young claimed to be nice girls but wanted nothing other than to whore themselves out and party.

One being true doesn't make the other untrue, there isn't any reason to speak in absolutes about it.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

Cue the articles now that will try to say "Men in their 30s have low quality sperm" lol

We've always been right on this subject, it's a joke.

Roasties seething:

 

[easy_c]

They probably all left because they don't want to get stabbed on a subway train or punched in the face walking down the sidewalk. Only the crazies are still there.

Such women usually are among "the crazies"

 

[SeekingGod]

I am not saying meeting a good woman is impossible. I am saying that it is impossible for every man to have a good woman, just like it is impossible for everyone to have a high wage. You're the one claiming that men simply need to work harder:



I'm saying that while we should always be trying, we should also be realistic. At least half of American men will not have children, unless they get a foreign wife. You're saying it's a matter of will power, but I'm saying actually no we live in a dark time and there is no solution for all men.

It's still better to try, I agree with you there, but not everyone can win at the lotto. There will be many losers, but at long as we try our best we can have a clean conscious, which is probably the most important component of having a healthy spirit.

Yes, if men just complain all day then their lives are wasted, and one will have a bitter conscious at the end of their life making it very difficult to be united with God. But if men give a sincere effort, yet fail, they will still be at peace with themselves as they were innocent from the outcome.

But the point you seem to miss is that while many men succeed, for every man you see in Church getting married there is another who is not, and that's just the way it is because half the women are choosing extinction.

Well yes, if we are talking about population level numbers, because of the movement towards degenerate tendencies, the number of good women has decreased so many are not suitable. It is the rare man who wants to marry a current or former whore or a woman of questionable character. Not all men will be able to get married and have a family, but that has been true for other periods of history as well. There have been times in cultures with several men having harems, the powerful using their power to rape the wives and women of commoners etc. The past has been brutal and there are no guarantees. The stable middle class modern family may have just been one gigantic illusion.

Men need to be at peace with themselves independent of external conditions. It is a form of entitlement to think that men were ever guaranteed a wife and children, yet that seems to be the prevalent thinking with some people here. You can do everything right and still lose, and you need to be prepared for that outcome.

Regarding effort, my point is, and this is true with any goal, most people don’t really do what it takes to reach it, we just talk about it or make excuses instead. That is true for me and almost everyone else, minus a small fraction of people. Most men and people can’t commit to church for 1 hour a week! If they can’t name this commitment, maybe they are unsuitable for the lifelong commitment of marriage. A marriage with God is hard, one without God is nearly impossible. With the latter, it’s mainly atheists marrying atheists.

When I read things like leave the country, or whatever, if that is the course of action a man has determined he should make the commitment and get on with it. It’s no different than a man moving from a place with few job opportunities to a place with several.

 

[Samseau]

Not all men will be able to get married and have a family, but that has been true for other periods of history as well.

I agree with everything you've written, however, this statement severely underestimates the scale of the problem we face today. Collapsing birthrates only happened before the last dark age, it is truly highly unusual, historically speaking.

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

This is our generation's cross to bear, and those who are forced to bear the cross are innocent.

In my world, no one is innocent. When these single men who can't find a wife spend billions of dollars on OF, PH, and all other filth, they perpetuate the hellscape that they find themselves in. They become a self-fulfilling prophecy. We must take it upon ourselves to disincentivize whoredom. Shame it, do not reward it. Everything about our society is rigged against communion and rigged for further societal fractionialization and hyper individualism. No one has any concept of self-sacrifice.

 

[Samseau]

In my world, no one is innocent. When these single men who can't find a wife spend billions of dollars on OF, PH, and all other filth, they perpetuate the hellscape that they find themselves in. They become a self-fulfilling prophecy. We must take it upon ourselves to disincentivize whoredom. Shame it, do not reward it. Everything about our society is rigged against communion and rigged for further societal fractionialization and hyper individualism. No one has any concept of self-sacrifice.

We are technically both correct. While we inherited this mess from former generations, and are therefore innocent, unless we take steps to correct it then we become guilty of it too. To this degree, the extent that we participate in Christ's holy Church, repent, and urge others to do the same, we can be forgiven.

That is my main point as to where I am going with all of this: the only solution to today's seemingly intractable problems with family and marriage is God. It is not up to our own effort, it will not solved with political ideologies, self-improvement, or even moving abroad. Fundamentally without the Church this evil will consume the entire world.

 

[budoslavic]

With all due respect, the "good woman" argument is very dismissive of reality. This is reality:

This was in 2019, the numbers are even worse now, which we know because birthrates have declined even further since 2019. Birthrates are indicative of young marriage rates, so if birthrates are going down so are young marriages.

Thus, saying "there are good women" completely ignores the fact that bad women actually outnumber good women, and, the amount of men willing to marry and have children outnumber women who do.

You can compare this to 50 years ago, when getting married was about the same difficulty as obtaining a high school degree. We can look at situations like Russia after WW2, which had just lost 1/3 of its men, yet still had increasing population after WW2. The only reason for decline marriages and babies are women. Women are the bottleneck. Men are pretty much willing to do whatever women want them to do.

So when it comes to self-reflection, a better question would be, "Why do so many men refuse to accept reality?" Because the above is reality and no amount of improvement of the men will fix the situation, but very few men talk about this situation. Most men think like you do, blaming themselves for problems that they don't have ignoring the actual guilty.

Also, another statistic to bear in mind is that over 60% of white American women heavily leans and votes to the Left (Liberal, Democrat, etc.). Look at the Blue States, school board, teachers, etc. -- there are lots of white American women into position of power where they support the Letft's political ideologies, activism and agenda.

Recently, my brother told me his wife's cousin's daughter went into a full-blown meltdown once Trump took office. He said she is a radical Leftist, thanks to her four years of Liberal indoctrination in college.

 

[SeekingGod]

In my world, no one is innocent. When these single men who can't find a wife spend billions of dollars on OF, PH, and all other filth, they perpetuate the hellscape that they find themselves in. They become a self-fulfilling prophecy. We must take it upon ourselves to disincentivize whoredom. Shame it, do not reward it. Everything about our society is rigged against communion and rigged for further societal fractionialization and hyper individualism. No one has any concept of self-sacrifice.

We live in a culture of immediate gratification and this plays a huge role in the dysfunction between the sexes. Most people cannot wait for the sexual fun to begin, yet the paradox is that instant feeling of connection or lust is not indicative of something that will last. The subversive part of this all, and it can be a topic for another thread, is the participation in any type of whoredom and porn is not only sinful, but perpetuating suffering. The entire narrative that it is fine now is a demonic deception. This is also true of so called soft porn and other avenues like women posting provocative but non-pornographic images online. For the millions that participate in this type of porn, the bandwagon effect allows them to influence millions of other females who are on the fence, some then beginning to engage in the activity itself.

The women who do this are not normal, and many stories revolve around being raped, abused, or having a missing father figure in their life. So in a sense you can blame a generation of men for allowing it. In other cultures and previous times, a father would physically lock up a daughter that was suspected of any whoredom. If she dressed provocatively, she would not be let out of the house. In Islam she could be beaten or worse, even being banned from walking outside with a man other than a relative or husband.

The men who view porn, engage in casual sex and whoredom have some type of baggage as well. When I was younger and engaging in this stuff, it was mainly out of ego, and having to prove myself something, it was an illusion and brought no long lasting satisfaction. I not only damaged myself, but also damaged some decent women in that time. These were not the type of actions of someone who is at peace, but I admit the temptation is so strong, especially as a male who exercises and it was an escape mechanism.

The importance of men being at peace independent of external conditions allows them to navigate these urges with much more wisdom. If they can’t delay gratification now, what happens in a marriage when they can’t have sex with their wife due to religious observation, illness, or other factors? Are they going to get their fix and run to online porn or worse a prostitute, fling, or mistress? Now imagine the damage this can do to a family and a child if this happens. Then the cycle perpetuates itself.

The training for this is not easy and we have moved so far away from it in our modern society, that the mere mention of intentional suffering and asceticism has most people label you a nut-job. In previous times, people would practice denial, sometimes in extreme ways, like fasting for weeks or months, practices like the five blazes where monks would pray in summer in the middle of 4 bonfires and the sun beating down on them. Catholics would wear a cilice. These practices were ways to achieve purification, and in these ways, we begin to understand and accept it will all be taken away in this life.

Today we are addicted to comforts, but my question is. What do we do when the dark times, the natural disasters, and the wrath of God comes? Covid was such a small thing compared to what could potentially happen and most of the population cracked. Because mentally and physically, the human race has become soft and we are not prepared for anything that disturbs our comfort.

 

[SeekingGod]

If God is closing the marriage doors in western civilization it´s simply because we became unworthyj of this sacrament. There´s nothing good about it. It just means western civilization is becoming a deviant contra natura sinful cesspool and therefore must cease to exist. I think there´s still some hope.

Go forth and multiply was His commandment. Not become a monk and go extinct.

This imperative was given by God at a time that the earth was newly created. There is nothing wrong with dedication to church life instead. Some can’t marry, others don’t want to because of the bad female situation, and they are not lesser human beings as you are implying in your post.

But I do find this attitude among certain married people with children who act like they are better for no real reason. Yet, when I investigate their lives more thoroughly, it is a farce and illusion, and mostly pride talking with no objective measure for making that determination. Because they are used to being authority figures to their children, who hang on every word, they get used to it and think they are authority figures to everyone, which is so absurd I can’t help but laugh in their face.

There are different paths to contentment and salvation:

Even Paul stated this imperative was not for everyone:

“To the unmarried…I say that it is good for them to remain unmarried as I am. But if they are not practicing self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭7‬:‭8‬.

These days we have lost the ability to deal with these passions, but it can be done.

It´s quite simply logically actually. Western civilization will sooner or later be subjugated by civilizations which are more aligned with God.

Your argument using China as an example makes no sense at all. China is a communistic country with a 2-5% Christian population. How are they are more aligned with God?

Women will submit. Either to western men. Or forcefully and much more savagely to other countries. It´s just a matter of time. Time is running against western civilization. Just like it runs on a opened milk box left in a kitchen table.

When I was young this dude in France went to China and came back saying China would take over the world. Nobody cared. Fast forward to today. Yellows are buying everything. I used to deal with a lot of nationalities. And chinese are the ones with more money. And they want to conquer the world. People who say chinese are peaceful etc. They never met chinese elite. I knew guys who were friends with chinese premier etc.

Anyway this goes to say that realities will come banging on the door. And the reality of western civilization There´s a moral bankrupcy which will engulf everything else in flames. It´s just a matter of time. It´s inevitable in my perspective. Unless there´s a big change in morals. And here the church as a saying. And to be fair Europe needs to detach itself from US. I have no doubts what´s holding back the ressurgence of traditional conservative values in Europe is the US protection of jews. And until this protection is stopped or severely diminished. Nobody can openly talk about it. US is like a jew dam. Jewish religion is shit. And they allow themselves to be used as an instrument by the most deviant national elites for enacting the most destructive policies against own population. They are tools and scapegoats. But this doesnt take away any guilt off their shoulders.

Europeans are not racist. If you have merit and quality all doors will open for you. There´s no racism. There´s stupidesm. A racism towards stupid people and useless. I am really stupidesm. I hate stupid people. A friend of mine used to say he didn´t mind dumb low iq people. I mean if someone is born dumb. What could he do? But he hated stupid people. Dude is now a book publisher in London. Cool cat.