The Destruction of Modern Women

... finding a 16-year-old woman attractive.
Finding a teenage girl attractive, or any woman attractive for that matter is not the issue here. I find alcohol and cigarettes attractive but I abstain from using them because they are unhealthy. This takes discipline and an iron will that can only be developed through prayer and a daily practice of choosing stability over chaos. A modern teenage girl or an early 20-something year old woman would bring nothing but chaos to an "older" man's life no matter what part of the world she is from.
I don't know where the age of a man should cut off in finding teenage women attractive would be. It is illegal though, and due to this, you best stay far away from any woman under 18.
And then there's this. 25 is probably the sweet spot in terms of modern human development. Trump's press secretary Karoline Leavitt (age 27) is married to a man 32 years her senior, but she's quite obviously a unicorn. In addition, with a "mature" 20-something woman like her you're going to be constantly running up against her careerist girl boss mentality.
 
In Latin America there are plenty of young attractive women looking for a provider and are happy to be housewives however they want a man with a lot of $$$$ they are not interested in men without dough (not the ones you would want anyway)
Young and attractive yes. Everything else I care about no. I am very financially stable and have indeed seen a few of these women. They can cook and so on but it's all worthless because their dispositions are awful.

I'm looking for a companion, an ally in life who will actively work to make my life easier and won't take me for granted. I want mutual yearning. These women will provide none of that. These women think they are massive catches, and everything about the way they talk to you and act toward you is imbued with that thought.

I have money so I could easily get with one of these women, but she would look down on me. Maybe if you're an alpha sigma epsilon whatever, then you can get them to value you, but I'm just a well-paid autist. Being the kind of charismatic man these women genuinely want is beyond my capabilities. Best I can do is not be a doormat.

If those are my options, I would rather throw in the towel, take up an alcohol addiction to keep the ennui and frustration at bay, and then unceremoniously die of liver failure after a few decades. Alcoholism cannot possibly be worse than being a paypig.
so you can even stay where you are just make sure you have money and your options will expand exponentially. It’s not easy to find a Latina with good morals but still slightly more common than a western woman.
I've been to the States and I think the cultural and spiritual state of the women is barely different, if at all. Notable differences are that latinas aren't obese as often and American women are noticeably much more intelligent. Beyond that, they have all of the exact same problems.

Things used to be a lot less insane here, but during the COVID thing they took advantage of the chaos to push forward a lot of social changes and now it's just all the same. Been a while since I last met a woman who wasn't an outspoken feminist. I'm friends with a few feminists (the alternative would be not talking to women ever), and they can be pleasant to be around if you don't say anything that sets off a hysterical outburst, but man...
It’s not easy to find a Latina with good morals but still slightly more common than a western woman.
"But hey, it's slightly better than Sodom!"

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this isn't a game forum (no need to describe women as pussy)
Speak for yourself. 16 years old, really? What is gay is obsessing about women and putting pussy so high up on a pedestal that one would even consider banging, much less marrying a 16 year old. It's 2025, not 1725. Historical and hence cultural context is everything. The magical thinking here is incredulous. You really think as a 30 or 40 year old man you're just going to walk down the streets of the modern world holding hands with a 16 year old? The image is so cringe I don't even know what to tell you. Pussy kills. It can be worse than being a heroin addict. Please don't encourage Austraila's and Blade Runner's addiction to, and obsession with women, especially teeneage girls. If any two men ever needed to be encouraged to go in the opposite direction by going celibate monk mode it's these two.
You need to relax and not take the post out of
context. I am not suggesting to actually talk to 16-18 year old girls in today's world or to obsess over women.

The post I quoted was talking about men's nature to be attracted to a younger woman that hasn't been sleeping around, especially for trying to start a family. It is absolutely true and has always been true since the dawn of time. Watch how men act around women that age and you can see it, but they don't want to admit it obviously.

The times we live in now are not the norm and should not be used as a good example of man's nature. What's gay is men settling for horrible modern women that will make their lives hell. That is putting pussy on a pedestal.
 
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On the instant shaming from women about the power dynamic of an older man with a younger woman...what us a woman's primary power over a man? Sexuality. When is that power at it's peak? 18-28 as a ballpark age. So who really has the power?

On the other hand, if you're 23 and dating an 18 year old, fine. If you're 43 and chasing 18 year olds, that is unwise. No shaming for finding them attractive, but a generation difference is usually asking for trouble. Read The Miller's Tale by Chaucer.

I have had plenty of 18 year old sloots working for me, and the horror stories of what they get up to is frankly depressing. Focus on the culture they grew up in and whether they have a healthy relationship with their parents.
 
A few Brazilians I have met in the United States have been utmost whores. They go to mass and then still sleep around town. Brazilian Catholics in the United States seem very liberal, like they are not even religious at all. Has anyone noticed this trend?
 
I've met my fair share of Brazilians in the US. The ones that are actively practicing their faith tend to be evangelicals. The ones that say they are Catholic seem to be non-observant. With the Catholics I noticed that there's also a tendency for them to be more syncretic and they'll blend pagan or New Age elements into their Catholicism.

That's not to say you won't find degenerate behavior with the evangelicals but at least they'll still go to church and talk about Jesus constantly even if they spent the previous week partying it up while with the Catholic ones won't even do that.
 
Young and attractive yes. Everything else I care about no. I am very financially stable and have indeed seen a few of these women. They can cook and so on but it's all worthless because their dispositions are awful.

I'm looking for a companion, an ally in life who will actively work to make my life easier and won't take me for granted. I want mutual yearning. These women will provide none of that. These women think they are massive catches, and everything about the way they talk to you and act toward you is imbued with that thought.

I have money so I could easily get with one of these women, but she would look down on me. Maybe if you're an alpha sigma epsilon whatever, then you can get them to value you, but I'm just a well-paid autist. Being the kind of charismatic man these women genuinely want is beyond my capabilities. Best I can do is not be a doormat.

If those are my options, I would rather throw in the towel, take up an alcohol addiction to keep the ennui and frustration at bay, and then unceremoniously die of liver failure after a few decades. Alcoholism cannot possibly be worse than being a paypig.

I've been to the States and I think the cultural and spiritual state of the women is barely different, if at all. Notable differences are that latinas aren't obese as often and American women are noticeably much more intelligent. Beyond that, they have all of the exact same problems.

Things used to be a lot less insane here, but during the COVID thing they took advantage of the chaos to push forward a lot of social changes and now it's just all the same. Been a while since I last met a woman who wasn't an outspoken feminist. I'm friends with a few feminists (the alternative would be not talking to women ever), and they can be pleasant to be around if you don't say anything that sets off a hysterical outburst, but man...

"But hey, it's slightly better than Sodom!"

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It’s a fair point and I understand where you are coming from. I’ve been to Colombia, Mexico, Chile and Peru. In none of those countries did I meet any women who I would consider marriage worthy or traditional. Not a single one. However on the whole they seemed less bad than western women.

To the extent that women are slightly less bad in Latin America is mostly just due to poverty and lack of social safety nets. The upper middle class and upper class women in Latin America are every bit as snobby, ice cold and entitled as the worst of western women.
 
If those are my options, I would rather throw in the towel, take up an alcohol addiction to keep the ennui and frustration at bay, and then unceremoniously die of liver failure after a few decades. Alcoholism cannot possibly be worse than being a paypig.
My thinking is that I want to see if there are countries that are noticeably better before I give up. Surely in places like Belarus, Russia, Moldova etc there must be a decent percentage/number of promising women? I will have to go to a bunch more different countries to actually find out before I throw in the towel.
 
Please don't encourage Austraila's and Blade Runner's addiction to, and obsession with women, especially teeneage girls. If any two men ever needed to be encouraged to go in the opposite direction by going celibate monk mode it's these two.
Why are you so obsessed with us, and why do you group us together? Because I defend some things a poster says, doesn't mean I'm the same poster or deserve the exact same simple minded criticism from the likes of you. Can't I just tell it how it is, and others can, and if we agree, it is up for others to decide? You seem so bothered by the fact that another man finds young women attractive, which is beyond bizarre, especially for a forum like this one.
25 is probably the sweet spot in terms of modern human development.
That doesn't even make sense, as you already know. The question is, then, why you bother to type stuff out like this and post it?

Modern human development? As AS said, all the stuff in the west is a moot point anyway. No one is "allowing" age gaps, so why you keep arguing against the truth is both irrelevant to the situation, and us.
 
My problem with overseas is vetting. I am very skeptical of the women and other cultures, especially if their past is not known. For reference I know an older ex-Marine who has only married Filipinas. His previous spouse died, and currently he has a Filipina girlfriend who is 30 years younger I would guess, as he is in his 70s. He tried to play matchmaker and set me up with her younger cousin who was 20 years old. Let me just say I am much older. It seemed like a normal thing. When I told him she was too young he told me she wasn’t and I was brainwashed by the West.
 
do not insult ('tard')
It's such a weird obsession some guys on here have. Any human being until 25-30 has no damn idea what they know or want for their life. And yet weirdo posters are talking about 16 because it's legal?
Too many thirsty males here. Lust doesn't last, bros.

They know exactly how it will all play out with em' leading, great husbands all of a sudden......f**k off.... lol......and will make sure to give plenty of reasons from the good ol' days but offer nothing in return.
Firstly if you think that 30 year old women are better potential wives than 16 year olds I suggest you stop consuming so much soy.

Secondly please stay in cucked New Zealand we don't need NPCs like you migrating to conservative countries and poisoning them with your western libtard nonsense.
 

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Sounds like good news to me. Means less children being born with disabilities. For a woman over the age of 35, having children is just an act of cruelty, quite frankly.
 
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Cue the articles now that will try to say "Men in their 30s have low quality sperm" lol

We've always been right on this subject, it's a joke.
 

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Could be something in the food nowadays along mRNA vaccine injuries?

Cue the articles now that will try to say "Men in their 30s have low quality sperm" lol

We've always been right on this subject, it's a joke.

Well....today's environment isn't exactly great for old sperm, but I agree that the retaliatory cope women use for men between 30 to 50 is pure bollocks
 
A while ago, I was talking about how I value seriousness and religiosity in a woman, and someone suggested I go for older women and offered to introduce me to a woman in her 30's. I'm early 20s btw. Worst part is, I actually considered it for a few seconds.

I have been demoralized to the point where I am open to settling for a post-wall cougar if she's Christian enough. I wish I had the fortitude to just call it quits and embrace celibacy, but I know I don't have it. The biological imperative will not let me have peace. I can only hope it will gradually shrivel up and die as I get older.

I'm so tired.

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I'm in the same boat. The truth is, even though I avoid bars and clubs and have very little interaction with women, it's not because I want to stay away from them. Women are too important to me for me to just live some monk life like Roosh seemed to want for himself.

Even if I had really good friends to go out with, there would still be that void that only a woman could fill. I will never truly be happy without a girlfriend or wife, no matter how many friends I have, or the money I make, etc.
 
I'm in the same boat. The truth is, even though I avoid bars and clubs and have very little interaction with women, it's not because I want to stay away from them. Women are too important to me for me to just live some monk life like Roosh seemed to want for himself.

Even if I had really good friends to go out with, there would still be that void that only a woman could fill. I will never truly be happy without a girlfriend or wife, no matter how many friends I have, or the money I make, etc.

Brother you need to find happiness within yourself before anything
 
Brother you need to find happiness within yourself before anything
This is one of those platitudes that everyone loves repeating, and it seems really meaningful until you actually think about it. What does it actually mean in terms of a concrete course of action to "find happiness within yourself"? Get money and muscles? Get a hobby or a passion project? Sure, those things are all great, but I have not found that they can fill the wife-and-kids-shaped hole in my heart.

My hobbies don't fill it. Computers are my craft, and I find meaning and money in it, but it doesn't fill it. Money and the gym definitely don't fill it. Faith fills an entirely different hole. I am still a very lacking neophyte, so maybe if I just practice the faith harder and for a long enough period of time. I don't know.
 
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