The Destruction of Modern Women

[Blade Runner]

You can start a thread or ask in a different place, because what you post there is not true. All the original orthodox churches, through the 4th century when slight disagreements started to pop up, and the roman catholics of course as well, through the great schism all taught this. As an example of what I'm talking about, and I don't consider all that many things being dogma as Orthodox, just what is essential - you can say St. Gregory Nyssa might have been a universalist. You could also say Origen was, and even anathematized, though he wasn't alive to defend himself. What's the point? The Church taught the orthodox teaching, in all cases.

 

[Blade Runner]

Getting back to the thread topic, again, it comes down to population boom, excess wealth, technology, and hypergamy. That's a lethal combo for men in a wealth society that is secular. There's essentially zero checks on women. That was my point in the last few posts. It doesn't help that all the people who usually do the matching (women tend to do this as they are out and about, knowing and talking to many people, including other women) do not like the fact that a man will not see women as they do (indifferent to chubbiness or being older, as they are likely both).

 

[Australia Sucks]

Getting back to the thread topic, again, it comes down to population boom, excess wealth, technology, and hypergamy. That's a lethal combo for men in a wealth society that is secular. There's essentially zero checks on women. That was my point in the last few posts. It doesn't help that all the people who usually do the matching (women tend to do this as they are out and about, knowing and talking to many people, including other women) do not like the fact that a man will not see women as they do (indifferent to chubbiness or being older, as they are likely both).

Women are allowed to have standards. Nobody will blink an eye if a woman says "I want a tall man" or "I want a man who earns 6 figures" but according to society a man is a shallow asshole and undeserving of a good wife he wants a woman who is thin and under 25. Apparently as men we should just be thankful for any woman that would have us.

 

[Australia Sucks]

He said "Taliban-style", not "Taliban." I think he just means restricting women's behavior and role in public life, and punishing whorish behavior harshly. Which is what a traditional Christian society would do.

I don't think Australia Sucks wants to declare Islam the state religion, outlaw Christianity and force women to wear DIY ghost Halloween costumes. Let's interpret his words charitably.

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This is 100% accurate.

 

[Australia Sucks]

That wasn't what the discussion or issue was, however. I am sure that women treat certain men different for others but that doesn't mean that the same women treat others "poorly" which was what I was commenting on. Even if it is mean through indifference, or ignorance, or some such thing, not being aware of men or not giving them any attention is far different than treating someone poorly during active engagement.

What I mean is that for example if a western man goes to the Philippines the same Filipina that is cooking for him and being submissive and pleasant to him in the hopes of locking him down because she sees him as high value this very same woman before the westerner came along was flaking and ghosting on some local average Filipino dude (who is short and has low income etc), never cooked for him, argued with him, etc. Unless you are talking about that 1 in 100,000 woman who volunteers at the local homeless shelter and attends church every week, etc. Basically when women are nice its mostly fake or because they want something. Its almost never because they are a good human being. At least not when it comes to younger women. Older women (e.g. 60 years old, etc) were raised in different times and that generation of women (at least in the poorer countries) is completely different to the younger women.

Even when Europeans had women in defined roles they still had greater latitude and choice, relative to other groups. This is one of the reasons why they advanced more than other groups. I don't think what you state will ever happen, but compared to now it'll certainly seem that way. But when will women ever stop complaining? Not gonna happen. Even when things are better than ever for them, it continues! Pretty funny when you think about it.

Yes what you are saying is largely true if you expect Europeans to still have control over Europe. I mean if things get bad enough to due to demographic collapse and out of control migration that Europe will lose law and order and at least partially succumb to the refugee/migrant gangs, mafias, at that point maybe even warlords, etc. Not saying this will happen by the way just that it is a possibility that needs to be taken into consideration.

 

[Josephus]

What I mean is that for example if a western man goes to the Philippines the same Filipina that is cooking for him and being submissive and pleasant to him in the hopes of locking him down because she sees him as high value this very same woman before the westerner came along was flaking and ghosting on some local average Filipino dude (who is short and has low income etc), never cooked for him, argued with him, etc. Unless you are talking about that 1 in 100,000 woman who volunteers at the local homeless shelter and attends church every week, etc. Basically when women are nice its mostly fake or because they want something. Its almost never because they are a good human being.

I get what you are saying, but I don’t think it’s because some women aren’t inherently good.

Like you said, women respond to you based on how valuable they see you, the same way men see a beautiful woman and a fat woman differently.

What’s happening, and again social media is mostly to blame, is that what women see as ‘high value’ is extremely skewed. The hoemath guy has shown this many times, that in their mind the average man is really the top
1% man. So for men it’s become a massive arm race to become ‘Chad’ which in the end usually fails anyway, because women who only select for those things will drop you immediately if/when they no longer exist.

Just like I’ve heard some young people claim
they will be multimillionaires before 30, the stats and math just don’t bear it out.

At least not when it comes to younger women. Older women (e.g. 60 years old, etc) were raised in different times and that generation of women (at least in the poorer countries) is completely different to the younger women.

 

[Blade Runner]

Basically when women are nice its mostly fake or because they want something. Its almost never because they are a good human being. At least not when it comes to younger women.

Like you said, women respond to you based on how valuable they see you, the same way men see a beautiful woman and a fat woman differently.

Yes, perhaps the difference is that women tend to still go out and "date", lead on, or interact with guys that are seen as relatively lower value, instead of most guys just moving on and generally not leading women on. Now, some guys do to dumpster dive, but then we just come full circle back the reality that women are not at all honest or serious about who they can get and keep. You let a guy bone you who is way out of your league? Obviously that's your fault. Similarly, it's a simps fault if he doesn't understand a girl is points above him and might use him for $. The problem more often is that in the modern day, regarding the women's value and their level, there are guys taking them out that are easily the same or even slightly higher and they still treat them like bald midgets.

 

[homersheineken]

Yes, perhaps the difference is that women tend to still go out and "date", lead on, or interact with guys that are seen as relatively lower value, instead of most guys just moving on and generally not leading women on. Now, some guys do to dumpster dive, but then we just come full circle back the reality that women are not at all honest or serious about who they can get and keep. You let a guy bone you who is way out of your league? Obviously that's your fault. Similarly, it's a simps fault if he doesn't understand a girl is points above him and might use him for $. The problem more often is that in the modern day, regarding the women's value and their level, there are guys taking them out that are easily the same or even slightly higher and they still treat them like bald midgets.

Women tend to date up, men tend to date down (there are exceptions).

This has become even more pronounced in the era of dating apps and social media - giving women much more attention and options to continually try to hypergamy.

 

[homersheineken]

 

[Let God Arise]

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The purple bar must represent all those brothers from another mother that I always hear about.

 

[Blade Runner]

Women tend to date up, men tend to date down (there are exceptions).

While true, it is rarely stated that women only have a short interval for this, convoluting the entire analysis of it. It's why everything goes so haywire when women don't strike early and sell when value is high. That alone crushes family formation and the "market", with its friend, the social taboo of "age gaps". You wouldn't believe the number of simpy videos I've seen on reels regarding how men who want to date younger women do it for (nonsense) reason X. It's rarer than red pill stuff, but funny in that it's another social media con job of telling people (women and phags) what they want to hear, complete pandering for clicks, attention and/or money, of course.