This is an interesting topic, but a deep one.Music, it's easy to prove that the Chinese government actually loves its people and cares for their future, unlike the (((West))).
Yes, China's zero-tolerance policy on drugs within its borders does seem to reflect a government that, at least in this surface-level respect, prioritizes the well-being of its own citizens. Executing drug dealers and maintaining a visible absence of addicts in public spaces is an effective way to curb the immediate societal harm that drugs cause.
However it’s impossible to overlook China’s complicity in the global drug trade especially in the fentanyl crisis that’s devastating the West.
China’s government enforces stability, but this is not altruistic love, it’s a calculated strategy to maintain control over its population and project an image of order. Their actions prioritize the survival of the regime not necessarily the well-being of individuals, and their role in the fentanyl crisis globally undermines any claim of moral high ground on their part.
Very simple metric - the drug death metric. How many addicts are in America, Europe, and China? How many overdoses due to heroin aka fentanyl? In China, you get the death penalty for even carrying the stuff. It's completely prohibited and there are no visible addictions anywhere on the street.
The drug death metric reflects enforcement, not morality. China cracks down harshly on domestic drug issues and executes drug dealers while turning a blind eye to the massive export of fentanyl precursors to Mexican cartels fueling addiction in the West. These chemicals are a necessary component for synthesizing fentanyl which is then smuggled into the US and other Western nations. Chinese chemical manufacturers know full well how their products are being used and the Chinese government cannot claim ignorance. This isn't just negligence, it's profit-driven complicity. Their streets may be clean, but the poison they enable abroad speaks volumes about their disregard for lives outside their borders.
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/...anufacturing-companies-and-employees-indicted
The DEA is a highly corrupt organization, but they do know how to trace their synthetics well. Their offices are also internationally like many other US federal agencies so they don't just deal with what they find coming up the US border. Virtually all of the precursors are made in Chinese that end up in dead Americans. This is a bipartisan website here that focuses on the results of these laboratory findings:
https://selectcommitteeontheccp.hou...s-ccps-role-american-fentanyl-epidemic-report
American leaders don't give a damn about the people here, and let the drugs flow in unabated. They probably work with the cartels to keep the borders open and profit from the deaths of 100K citizens here every year.
The common denominator in these threads for most of us is to seek fault and guilt and therefore the object of blame, but it is never that simple these days.
Western corruption and political failures absolutely play a role in the drug crisis, but blaming only the US ignores how Mexican cartels profit from Chinese precursor chemicals and how the CCP profits economically and strategically from this cycle of destruction.
The production and export of fentanyl precursors are not a small-scale rogue operation but a significant and highly organized industry that benefits from access to advanced chemical manufacturing infrastructure, international shipping networks, and global trade routes. For such a large-scale operation to continue functioning, it’s implausible that the Chinese government known for its extensive surveillance and strict regulatory oversight not to be aware of its activities and production levels.
The CCP views the fentanyl crisis as a form of asymmetric warfare against the West. By enabling the flow of fentanyl precursors, China profits economically while indirectly undermining Western nations with fueling addiction, societal collapse, and public health crises. This method aligns with it's goals of weakening perceived rivals like the US without direct military conflict. We're killing ourselves just not fast enough for them.
China’s control over drugs domestically doesn’t place them on higher moral ground it just highlights their selective enforcement. They prioritize internal stability while exporting chaos to weaken their geopolitical rivals, proving this is not about morality but strategy.That doesn't happen in China, which automatically places them on far higher moral ground than anywhere else in the (((West))).
The entire assembly line of the global drug trade has blood on its hands, from the Chinese chemical manufacturers to the Mexican cartels, corrupt Mexican/US border officials, and yes especially Western governments that fail to at securing borders, and who also refuse to resolve addiction crises. We can thank the (((Sacklers))) for most of this behavior being permitted, among many others who will never be inconvenienced with a courthouse.
When China was run by the Talmuds, drugs flowed into their country. But nowadays, there are genuine nationalists in charge, which is why there are no drugs there and George Soros calls for the removal of President Xi.
While Xi’s government curbs domestic drug use it enables the fentanyl crisis abroad which shows that their 'nationalism' is self-serving and weaponized against the West rather than focused on universal ethics. I don't know any European nationalists who advocate pouring drugs into their enemies country, it is not considered honorable. Perhaps this is the Manchurian revenge for the Opium wars. Guys like It_Is_My_Time and Cooper think China will squash us in the future when we are completely broken, but all of this behavior shows it to be more like payback for their "Century of Humiliation."
Think about it, the West (really just the jews forcing England) once used drugs to destabilize China, and now China is supplying the means for a similar crisis in the West (getting the Brits back but really hurting America more). While the motivations may differ, ie profit versus imperialist dominance, the parallels are undeniable. It is a cyclical dynamic of exploitation and retaliation.
I have no doubt this would still happen even if Xi was not in charge, it's a racial grudge, but they fail to see the architects of those wars as they wouldn't allow Rothschild and Sassoon advisors and controllers in dozens of their financial institutions to this very day if they knew better.
The Rothchild-Sassoon connection that is still present in China gives this situation a secondary angle, but one would have to refute the idea that there are independent nations first. The Opium Wars show how financial and mercantile elites could leverage national armies and policies to achieve their ends often against the interests of the very nations they "represented." The same pattern can be observed today where transnational elites profit from the destabilization of nations through drugs, debt, and cultural subversion.
In this context both the opium trade of the 19th century and the fentanyl crisis today are strategies for weakening societies to consolidate power globally. The suffering of nations whether China in the 19th century or the West today is a byproduct, not the primary goal. In this instance this is less a case of two nations "getting back at each other" across centuries and more a continuation of a system where talmudic elites manipulate nations for their own ends.
The whole "George Soros wants Xi out" is theater. Soros is an agent provocateur who is proving himself less worthy to the cabal by the day. The fact that most of his shadiness is public knowledge is a red flag to focus on him as the sole mouthpiece for the New World Order. He is dangerous like his murderous Clinton agents, but with or without him their agenda proceeds. The "Shanghai clique being outed in 2012" that Cooper keeps bringing up are not the people who are still controlling and advising the boards of the most strategic and effective financial institutions in China (The Bank of China, The Bank of Qingdao, Querces Ventures, the Chinese Creat Group, CIIC (Group) Company (Chinese: 中实(集团)公司), CEFC China Energy, Auster Capital, China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC), China Netcom, Volvo, Pirelli, China Chengtong Holdings Group, and Alibaba Group) as of January 27th 2025. The suggestion that Xi is an anti-globalist nationalist fighting against international elites doesn’t hold up when examining China’s deep, ongoing, and growing financial entanglements with global capital.
Xi Jinping is rhetorically a nationalist, but economically and ideologically a globalist. Whatever makes the people work harder works for him. China has been built the way it is for a purpose, which is not to "secure the existence of it's peoples and a future for Chinese children". If pseudo-nationalism keeps production going then the state will employ it to optimize production levels. If it ends up not doing it, what can be given so easily can also be easily taken away, and the old Maoist communist spirit will revive itself once more.
I do recall you telling me once that jews fight amongst themselves just like anyone else, though the causes are rarer, well the same is true for all globalist enforcers who operate with impunity. Both Soros and Xi have tremendous power in their own spheres of influence. I do believe we will see Xi outlast Soros but that won't stop the agenda from continuing either.
The drug metric is by far the easiest measurement to use, because there is literally no reason for highly addictive and destructive drugs to be widely available on the streets, other than political corruption. Drugs are a political decision and nothing else.
Drugs are indeed a political decision, but the global drug trade is driven by shared culpability: Western demand, cartel trafficking, and Chinese supply of precursors. Each player profits from this destruction and China’s hands are far from clean in this generational war of subversion and exploitation.
@Get2choppaaa I would like your thoughts on this subject when you have time. This tactic is essentially called asymmetric warfare, non-military means to undermine an opponent.
"By deception thou shalt wage warfare" applies to all powers here. Both the West and the East wage a foul game of subversive warfare: the West undermines through degenerative ideologies, "color" revolutions, and exporting consumerism and "progress" that erodes traditions and hollows out societies, while the East exploits these fractures by fueling addiction, dependency, and economic subjugation, turning the West’s decadence into a weapon against itself. Each side preys on the other's weaknesses, engaging in a mutual assault of symbiotic antagonism that corrodes national foundations and perpetuates global instability. Who benefits from all of this?
All are guilty in the present day, what we each have is a matter of perspective of seeing the worst of one but not of the other. Few have seen both.
Addendum and deeper analysis:
Ultimately the Chinese people are presently benefitting from a more stable society at the expense of and to the detriment of the people in the west. The inverse of this was not true of America's golden age, though it could be said that the British officers in the 1850s certainly did receive some temporary perks for their drug stampede, enough to keep English goyim complacent and clueless of the greater agenda.
Institutions like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and Rothschild bankers facilitated the offshoring of American industry to China turning the country into the "world’s factory." These sellouts didn’t just hollow out American manufacturing but gave China the technological and industrial tools it needed to become a global superpower. China’s economic ascension wasn’t born from ingenuity but from access to Western innovation, infrastructure investment, and markets. Western corporations not only outsourced manufacturing but also transferred proprietary technologies, giving China the keys to industries they couldn’t have developed independently at the same speed. This external "trade" has been the critical driver of its economic rise.
The golden age of American prosperity characterized by a strong middle class, robust domestic manufacturing, and high economic mobility was intentionally dismantled in favor of globalization. We all know the result with millions of jobs lost as factories closed, leaving entire communities in economic ruin, a rising dependence on cheap foreign goods creating a trade imbalance that weakened American self-reliance, and the erosion of national identity as corporate greed superseded loyalty to one’s country. During those decades it was almost entirely domestic production and innovation which fueled growth allowing the nation to build a middle class and establish economic dominance on its own terms. It was the spirit of entrepreneurship that turned a young republic into an eventual global powerhouse.
With China what we have is a country that appears to have its act together. Even with the rednote revelations there is still a lot of selective exposure going on, and for all that is better there than the West, the starry-eyed Americans and Europeans don't have a clue why it all "looks so good" and they're stuck with garbage people and policies everywhere.
How many of the pro-China people here would abandon everything in the West and go live in China? None of them will. You won't, Cooper won't, even if I was hypothetically paid handsomely to shut my mouth and stop criticizing everyone everywhere and live like a king there, I would not.
We intrinsically want our own lands to repent and build themselves up again. Innately, no matter how much we hate the West, something in you that no propaganda can remove knows that this is your home that your ancestors carved out of a dreadful, uncaring, merciless, unforgiving world, and our ingenuity has allowed every other race to enjoy that without having to struggle to attain it. We were all deceived. Dispensationalism and zionism and the fomentation of the world wars in conjunction with the destruction of all monarchies and their replacement with the twin deathstyles of capitalism and communism gave us this, and our spirits faltered.
Haggai 1:6: "You have planted much, but harvested little. You eat, but never have enough. You drink, but never have your fill. You put on clothes, but are not warm. You earn wages, only to put them in a purse with holes in it."
Jeremiah 5:19: "And when the people ask, ‘Why has the Lord our God done all this to us?’ you will tell them, ‘As you have forsaken me and served foreign gods in your own land, so now you will serve foreigners in a land not your own.’"
The modern prosperity enjoyed by Chinese citizens is inseparable from the suffering and sacrifice of the West which allowed itself to be gutted by greed-driven elites who traded national stability and sovereignty for short-term profits. China’s rise may be impressive on the surface but it is less a testament to self-made greatness and more to a byproduct of Western industries, technologies, and economies being offshored, leaving behind hollowed-out communities and addiction epidemics. The fentanyl crisis and the exploitation of Western decadence are not acts of genius or moral superiority, they are calculated forms of warfare parasitically feeding off the very systems that once empowered the West, exposing a world where one nation's gains are built on the calculated erosion of another's foundations.
These days it's either a bad time for everyone, or whoever is having a good time is doing so at another's loss. But it will not be this way forever.
Joel 2:25-26: "I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten; the great locust and the young locust, the other locusts and the locust swarm; my great army that I sent among you. You will have plenty to eat, until you are full, and you will praise the name of the Lord your God, who has worked wonders for you; never again will my people be shamed."
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