@paternos Earthly rule is not the same as Heavenly rule. There is supposed to be a system of worldly government to handle the affairs of the here and now, and if done properly it would ensure man's place as the steward and caretaker of all life and nature as God had commanded in Genesis. The Church's purpose is to prepare men's souls for the hereafter on the basis of Christ's teachings, but also in order with the immutable laws of God. While we place the sanctity and divinity of Christ higher than any human act of charity, we also do not stop following the commands that help us to not sin. Polytheism, idol worship, blasphemy, breaking the day of rest, betraying our kin, murder, adultery, theft, lying, materially envious, we do no engage in these because we know them to be inherently wrong, even if they don't take precedence in the hierarchy of our beliefs. Without the proper government of man, the Church would be left to do all the work, and that is where so much conflict would arise.
True nationalism is not anti-God, it is an extension of God's laws carried out with respect to each ethnicity's agency. I'm seeing the same old arguments ad nauseum here. Orthodox Churches have more Nationalist ethos in them than any other Church ever did, and they are surviving by far the longest out of every other Church with the least amount of degeneracy and anti-Christian values in them.
When you say that one adopts the identity game as per the course of modern politics, if they embrace it for a secular or selfish reason then it is an affront to God. However if they do so for a spiritual and pure reason, as in the result of their actions from this mindset cause them not to sin and to spread goodness, then how is it against God?
To say that the Church hasn't been pan-White / pan-European is also a ludicrous lie. It is the sole force which has brought all of the various European races together as a whole like nothing else in history. I don't think everyone here understands that a Church that looks out for European descendants is historically what it has been for a majority of it's existence since the 1st century, and the recent infiltration, subversion, and corruption of their offices to embrace poz among other anti-Christian values is clearly not following its purpose on this earth.
For those who do not study genetics or lineages and simply dismiss it as something unimportant or even as cringe as being "against God", here is an example what from the Catholic Encyclopedia in 1913 used as a basis for demographic measurement in Europe, which clearly shows the ecclesiastical scholars of the time were well-educated in racial and genealogical information as an important distinction:
The longest kingdoms in earth's history, that we know of, are ones that centralized these tenets of their people, AND fortified it with a ruling spiritual body, in this case the Apostolic Churches. Therefore to not have the true church would mean there would be no unification of White and European peoples, and without White and European peoples, there would be no true church but a misguided office. This is a historical fact, as much as it may hurt some people's feelings. The thousand-year Reich that became known as the Holy Roman Empire started by Charlemagne was based solely on a unification of the Church into the national government. The good Christian soldiers from any of these time nations during that period would be seen as one-hundred times more predatory and violent than today's "military," "militias," and groups like Patriot Front, when it came to defending their homelands from the various alien hordes which befall Europa time and time again. The poisonous sorcery of the enemies of God have given over unto the European Christian a spirit of weakness to lay down their arms and let their kin be destroyed, and to believe that to act in accordance with God's laws to fight and preserve the only pure and beautiful thing on this earth to be a sin and a travesty. Right now we are back to where we started, various European descendants fighting amongst ourselves while the enemy gains a foothold over our sleeping throats, yet I don't see any Charlemagne rising in the wings to put a stop to this:
Here is the link, they have many other fascinating entries from that time period:
https://www.ecatholic2000.com/cathopedia/vol5/volfive474.shtml
My argument is a spiritual version of what Patriot Front's mostly secular activities strives for. If the two are in union, like they were under Byzantium, under Charlemagne, under Tsarism, there would be a revival of such spiritual magnitude that it would lead to a golden age, not just for White / Europeans, but for all, because the entire world would benefit, as they always have. So in a way the combined destruction of the European races and the attack on the Churches is only going to hasten a new dark age for everyone else in the world. Islam cannot bring the level of Godliness it wishes to into this world, and Buddhism too cannot accomplish this.
The issue is that most of America's founding fathers, who they seem to emulate, were Protestants, and Catholicism was not a welcome force in America in the beginning for many reasons. Given it's less than ideal state now barring the Traditional Latin Churches and those who rebel towards God against the corrupted Vatican, it would be hard-pressed to get them to ally with a unifying Church that does not spread a woke message.
@Wutang so what would a church like that look like? It would have to be either a mainline Protestant Church that is not corrupted, the Catholic Church, or the Orthodox Church, that respects the regionalism of those people and their desire to exist. The last time a new church was attempted to unite people of varying sects was the proposed Reich Church under Hitler, but he could not get the varying Protestant and Lutheran sects to rectify so he abandoned the idea halfway through the 1930s and never attempted any state intercessions into spiritual affairs again. Unlike what others may say, he did not attempt a "secular revolution," but indeed a very spiritual one in the same vein as Charlemagne. The articles you see where they talk about German Churches mentioning pagan terms and deities are false propaganda, and usually come from people who do not understand the German language. In America, it would have to be a untied combination of the demographics and the faith in an authoritarian faith-based model like the HRE in order to succeed. Developing this kind of model are the kind of talks we all should be having here. The other alternative is for the European descendants in America to abandon the failed social experiment of the USA and return to Europe to embrace their people and contribute to its rebirth there.
As for the idea of the "Nietzschean right" I too see this a lot but these people usually do not have an understanding of both worldly realities like race and lineage as well as spiritual foundations of the Gospels and the Church. I would rather live alone than have to choose between a family of Mexican Catholics or a white gay couple, that choice Roosh gave the questioner is only an ultimatum for one who refuses to fight for both his people and his faith.
When one looks further into this, the modern political divisionary tactics have biologically reduced everything down to White and non-White, with jews being a magical category that transcends both because of their inherent supremacist nature. The European and Mediterranean races are the the venn-diagram of the White race. Racial purity is a difficult state to prove for many these days, but it does exist, though rarer these days, and it most certainly did exist in antiquity just about everywhere because of the laws of the ancient tribes. Also the Adamic bloodlines inherently have a higher connection to Christ than do alien ones. If that statement triggers the reader, I suggest they read into the bloodlines of the Bible for a more enlightening take on what we have been lied to about the generations (genes) of Adam. To impugn someone without investigating the facts is extremely intellectually dishonest.
White nationalists who do not know who the Creator is, who do not understand the one and only Christian God do themselves a disservice, that is why I educate them on the biological and historical realities of how Christendom is what saved our people from their plight, and only through a strong combination of faith that resonates throughout an entire people, and the will to force that in the physical, will we survive.
Perhaps someone should reach out to Rousseau and talk to him about this. I certainly would. I would see their organization grow and start working with Churches and then it will betwixt their detractors to call them out as such. Until then I think if any of our voices can reach their ears, they should simply be pushed towards the Church rather than being detrimentally attacked for their lack of fashion and less-than-ideal optics.
True nationalism is not anti-God, it is an extension of God's laws carried out with respect to each ethnicity's agency. I'm seeing the same old arguments ad nauseum here. Orthodox Churches have more Nationalist ethos in them than any other Church ever did, and they are surviving by far the longest out of every other Church with the least amount of degeneracy and anti-Christian values in them.
When you say that one adopts the identity game as per the course of modern politics, if they embrace it for a secular or selfish reason then it is an affront to God. However if they do so for a spiritual and pure reason, as in the result of their actions from this mindset cause them not to sin and to spread goodness, then how is it against God?
To say that the Church hasn't been pan-White / pan-European is also a ludicrous lie. It is the sole force which has brought all of the various European races together as a whole like nothing else in history. I don't think everyone here understands that a Church that looks out for European descendants is historically what it has been for a majority of it's existence since the 1st century, and the recent infiltration, subversion, and corruption of their offices to embrace poz among other anti-Christian values is clearly not following its purpose on this earth.
For those who do not study genetics or lineages and simply dismiss it as something unimportant or even as cringe as being "against God", here is an example what from the Catholic Encyclopedia in 1913 used as a basis for demographic measurement in Europe, which clearly shows the ecclesiastical scholars of the time were well-educated in racial and genealogical information as an important distinction:
The longest kingdoms in earth's history, that we know of, are ones that centralized these tenets of their people, AND fortified it with a ruling spiritual body, in this case the Apostolic Churches. Therefore to not have the true church would mean there would be no unification of White and European peoples, and without White and European peoples, there would be no true church but a misguided office. This is a historical fact, as much as it may hurt some people's feelings. The thousand-year Reich that became known as the Holy Roman Empire started by Charlemagne was based solely on a unification of the Church into the national government. The good Christian soldiers from any of these time nations during that period would be seen as one-hundred times more predatory and violent than today's "military," "militias," and groups like Patriot Front, when it came to defending their homelands from the various alien hordes which befall Europa time and time again. The poisonous sorcery of the enemies of God have given over unto the European Christian a spirit of weakness to lay down their arms and let their kin be destroyed, and to believe that to act in accordance with God's laws to fight and preserve the only pure and beautiful thing on this earth to be a sin and a travesty. Right now we are back to where we started, various European descendants fighting amongst ourselves while the enemy gains a foothold over our sleeping throats, yet I don't see any Charlemagne rising in the wings to put a stop to this:
Here is the link, they have many other fascinating entries from that time period:
https://www.ecatholic2000.com/cathopedia/vol5/volfive474.shtml
My argument is a spiritual version of what Patriot Front's mostly secular activities strives for. If the two are in union, like they were under Byzantium, under Charlemagne, under Tsarism, there would be a revival of such spiritual magnitude that it would lead to a golden age, not just for White / Europeans, but for all, because the entire world would benefit, as they always have. So in a way the combined destruction of the European races and the attack on the Churches is only going to hasten a new dark age for everyone else in the world. Islam cannot bring the level of Godliness it wishes to into this world, and Buddhism too cannot accomplish this.
The issue is that most of America's founding fathers, who they seem to emulate, were Protestants, and Catholicism was not a welcome force in America in the beginning for many reasons. Given it's less than ideal state now barring the Traditional Latin Churches and those who rebel towards God against the corrupted Vatican, it would be hard-pressed to get them to ally with a unifying Church that does not spread a woke message.
@Wutang so what would a church like that look like? It would have to be either a mainline Protestant Church that is not corrupted, the Catholic Church, or the Orthodox Church, that respects the regionalism of those people and their desire to exist. The last time a new church was attempted to unite people of varying sects was the proposed Reich Church under Hitler, but he could not get the varying Protestant and Lutheran sects to rectify so he abandoned the idea halfway through the 1930s and never attempted any state intercessions into spiritual affairs again. Unlike what others may say, he did not attempt a "secular revolution," but indeed a very spiritual one in the same vein as Charlemagne. The articles you see where they talk about German Churches mentioning pagan terms and deities are false propaganda, and usually come from people who do not understand the German language. In America, it would have to be a untied combination of the demographics and the faith in an authoritarian faith-based model like the HRE in order to succeed. Developing this kind of model are the kind of talks we all should be having here. The other alternative is for the European descendants in America to abandon the failed social experiment of the USA and return to Europe to embrace their people and contribute to its rebirth there.
As for the idea of the "Nietzschean right" I too see this a lot but these people usually do not have an understanding of both worldly realities like race and lineage as well as spiritual foundations of the Gospels and the Church. I would rather live alone than have to choose between a family of Mexican Catholics or a white gay couple, that choice Roosh gave the questioner is only an ultimatum for one who refuses to fight for both his people and his faith.
When one looks further into this, the modern political divisionary tactics have biologically reduced everything down to White and non-White, with jews being a magical category that transcends both because of their inherent supremacist nature. The European and Mediterranean races are the the venn-diagram of the White race. Racial purity is a difficult state to prove for many these days, but it does exist, though rarer these days, and it most certainly did exist in antiquity just about everywhere because of the laws of the ancient tribes. Also the Adamic bloodlines inherently have a higher connection to Christ than do alien ones. If that statement triggers the reader, I suggest they read into the bloodlines of the Bible for a more enlightening take on what we have been lied to about the generations (genes) of Adam. To impugn someone without investigating the facts is extremely intellectually dishonest.
White nationalists who do not know who the Creator is, who do not understand the one and only Christian God do themselves a disservice, that is why I educate them on the biological and historical realities of how Christendom is what saved our people from their plight, and only through a strong combination of faith that resonates throughout an entire people, and the will to force that in the physical, will we survive.
Perhaps someone should reach out to Rousseau and talk to him about this. I certainly would. I would see their organization grow and start working with Churches and then it will betwixt their detractors to call them out as such. Until then I think if any of our voices can reach their ears, they should simply be pushed towards the Church rather than being detrimentally attacked for their lack of fashion and less-than-ideal optics.
