I wonder how long it's going to be before we hear another story of him laying his hands on somebody. He's a good guy nonetheless.
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I wonder how long it's going to be before we hear another story of him laying his hands on somebody. He's a good guy nonetheless.
To me, Nick comes off as a highly intelligent, but never challenged, stunted man.
He is intelligent, put two and two together, and was ahead of many on the serious issues facing our country. He is also brave to not only address these issues, and face possible retaliation, and keep on speaking out. And he realizes you must have a look that will take the average purple pill guy and make him say "you know what, this guy seems to have his stuff together". I have a lot of respect for all of that.
But he also comes off as a guy who never faced a real challenge in life. He is smug and arrogant at times. He likely didn't play sports and get knocked around and find out what he was made of. That is why sports are so important for young men. It isn't the winning or accomplishments, it is the getting knocked down and getting back up and keep on fighting. And without this, men become very stunted.
My advice to Nick would be to take up lifting and healthy eating. To learn to battle and learn that you have limitations and that it is okay to be more understanding of others.
IF he does this, I think he will have a much better time with his temper and keep himself out of trouble.
He won't. He's stated numerous times in his streams that he doesn't have to lift or train or be athletic. Good on him for being a thorn in their side but he'll never be a real leader. Taking the legal brunt of things is always different than taking the physical end of the stick. Especially when he can live in comfort to some extent.
I doubt he would even read this thread. He'll be eating fast food in his old age just like Trump, if he and American society in its current cancerous form even last that long.
I was talking about Lewandowski. That guy's always grabbing somebody and getting in trouble for it. It happens so frequently that I can't help but laugh whenever it does happen. He seems to be a good strategist though.
I never really paid attention to Nick. Watched a theological debate with him once. But the more I'm reading his tweets, the more I like where he's coming from. But he's better behind the scenes, a guy like that could never take center stage.
It's a good start. Trump could also state that any American caught paying an illegal any amount of money for work or any social worker or government agent that issues food stamps, medical insurance, or cash payments to an illegal immigrant will be served with a one-thousand-dollar fine and one month in jail per infraction.
I feel this is a vapid criticism. That’s not how human beings work. What you would consider being a “well-rounded individual” would translate to Nick not existing as is. He’s arrogant due to his outlier status. That’s how you push through. When you’re weird and people are passive aggressive, when you’re not world class genetic material, you have to be arrogant. He says some stupid things and associates with extremely questionable people. He’s also young and on his own timeline. Eventually life will humble him further so I’m not going to judge someone for not experiencing something as quickly as I would prefer. All people are humbled. Kids that don’t experience it become repulsive until it happens. I’m not saying people should care about Nick but if you feel he’s too inexperienced then ignore him until he grows into himself. No reason to pile on.
Always saw that as the most cringe, non red-pill line of thinking from him how he supports McDonalds and gets all riled up about Trump loving Big Macs.
Maybe he wants to make his eating habits appear cool so he can continue to eat like shit and show up late for his shows.
Why do all of Nick's contemporary cohorts call him a fed? Greer, Beattie, Frassen, Casey. All of them have dissociated themselves from them whilst they all have been consistent for years.
I said this in RVF, and I'll say it now.
He sucks at judgement. He allied himself with the Pedo Ali whom Bannon refused to have on because he knew he was a fag. He allied himself with Kanye only to make a complete ass clown of himself by attaching his brand to Milo (a deeply troubled individual who's on a journey that should involve private life and not public interaction) and Kanye, who's so fucked up it's a whole thread in and of itself.
Here is the thing. I'm 35, I've got a 15 year old kid. Nick is closer in maturity and responsibility to my 15 year old than he is to me as a father. I'm not saying he's dumb or a faggot (though I do actually legitimately wonder if he isn't queer at times) but the best thing for Nick and his intellectual growth would be to stop with the arrogant pomposity and realize that he comes off like an intentional subverter and fed with his shit judgement and irrational behavior.
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They call him a fed because he is one. Nick Fuentes was one of the main instigators of J6, yet somehow miracleously walked away scoff free afterwards. The video below speaks for itself. It should be emphasized that there are currently still hundreds of Average Joe trespassers languishing in prison for minor infractions but somehow Nick Fuentes managed to dodge any serious investigation even though he is on camera inciting people to storm the Capitol.
Here is Nick Fuentes on January 6, 2021.
From the video:
“Keep moving towards the Capitol. It appears we are taking the Capitol. Keep marching, and don’t relent. Never relent. Break down the barriers and disregard the police. The Capitol belongs to us now. … Now we are forcibly evicting them [politicians] from the People's house!”
All people are humbled by life, but for some it takes well into their middle ages to feel it. At least in the west, where people can live like giant children and be safe from harm or criticism for it.
There is a big difference in arrogance and confidence. Nick is growing and maturing, but he still has a long ways to go. And had he played sports, or picked up weight lifting, the mental growth from this would push him forward 10 years in maturity.
I see Nick's base/movement being taken over by someone with more life experience and knowledge, who can push the same or better message but from a place of confidence. It seems in the dissident right, we have three classes...
Nick's type, where they have the messaging right but their personal growth/experience is almost 0. Philosophy and history is 7/10
NJP/TRS guys - have the life experience, know far more than Nick, but don't have the messaging and for whatever reason think they don't have to do outreach, and people will just magically find their very censored material. Far more censored than Nick. Philosophy and history is 10/10.
Jake Shields/Dan Bilzerian/Lucas Gage - messaging is great, personal experience off the charts, but their philosophy is missing. They are confident, experienced men, who speak truth to power and are very brave for what they are doing. They have my utmost respect. The problem is, they don't have much after this. The philosophy is missing, much of the history is missing. They know right from wrong, but the big picture is missing. Socialism is a good thing, socialism is a safety net for your extended family. The reason socialism is a "bad thing" to USA people is because it is exploited by alien people with different evolutionary patterns. And things like this are important in turning "conservatives" into free thinking men.
Hopefully these groups either learn to work together or someone can bring them together. The Jake Shields guys are more than willing to work with the other two, they are my favorite because they are just regular good men, who are fed up, and want to help and fix this mess. The other two groups seem to want to stay in their silo. I think Nick might break down and join with the Jake Shields group one day. The NJP/TRS guys are on another level when it comes to information, but they are resentful that they don't get respected for it. But they don't get respected for it because they don't do outreach and think optics don't matter, but optics do matter when trying to reach a brainwashed mass. Being right, but losing, doesn't do them any good at all.
That is my take on the entire far right situation in the USA. As Nick ages, he will become more humbled and hopefully his young followers will help unite with another group to form a much larger and powerful organization.
I agree except for this part. Brainwashed? When I was a kid I had zero experience and wisdom but was very logical. You can think logically about anything, doesn’t mean it’s true and you lack conviction, that can only come from wisdom. Logic can be twisted any which way. The humility in lived experience is what gives wisdom. To reiterate we all move at our speed. That’s why we have Christians that suddenly stop believing in God on this forum. “Feelings” force a different logical pattern that seems genius. If the left is brainwashed then so is the right.
II don’t think people are brainwashed. I think people do what makes sense to them. There is no ”logical” outreach the right can do to counteract this “brainwashing”. The only outreach that can work on a human being is “Look at me, I’m a true winner/killer about to take my people to the promise land.” Or some variation of that. That’s the only thing that sways people.
I recently heard a crypto Jew complain about Trump calling him “their Jesus”. Blasphemous but an interesting statement. He understands the phenomenon at play, he just doesn’t feel included or puts his trust in Trump. I’m sure he feels clever but would still love to have his own “Jesus” that appeals to him. We need powerful people that are prepared to die trying to conquer the throne. That’s the only way the right will win anything. The rest will follow.
Well, by "brainwashed" masses, and you can use whatever word you like to describe it, I am talking about the normies.
There are millions of normies in the west who would agree with the dissident right, if they heard them out, and broke from the TV/social media for long enough to think about what they have to say. And that wall is breaking down, thanks to people like Dan Bilzerian and Candace Owens, who have huge followings and are questioning the "conservative" narrative.
Nick is also trying to reach these people, and he is doing a good job of it.
The TRS/NJPY guys are sitting on the sidelines saying "we know more, so ha, we win" and they are reaching no one with this attitude. They are jaded because they put it all on the line and no one followed them. They have to realize that the people they want to follow them have to be reached out to.
I guess my point is, there a millions of young men in the west, who know things are wrong. Who know that we don't need more legal immigrants. Who know we don't need another war for Israel. Who know the you can't just "bootstrap yourself" in this terrible economy. But they don't know where to turn. And this is who Dan and Candace and Nick are successfully reaching out to. And if they only get 6 or 7 out of 10 correct when it comes to philosophy and history, that is better than 10, but no outreach.
I attribute my own political leanings to my bottom line. For example I know I can’t guarantee my own safety nor can the state when it comes to blacks/migrants. That’s my own selfishness/self-interest/solipsism. I have to be racist to stay safe.
Then most people care deeply about opportunity and social dynamics. If everyone is making money but I feel like I’m being prevented from doing so I will acquire certain views. That’s my issue with white people, they all seem to think they have unlimited potential in the west and even if we start handing money out to black people they won’t be impacted. Some are snapping out of it and that’s why the right is growing. We all want opportunity for growth and to be treated fairly.
Thirdly people want to feel smart and in control, making rational decisions. The west is extremely decadent filled with lies and people will naturally seek out voices who can explain everything, especially things they don’t like. A human being’s favourite question is “why” in uncertainty.
I’ve experienced all those things and it made me right wing. The funny thing is the same phenomenon can make someone left wing but at the moment reality is heavily favoring the right.
Nick again off. Vance is still very popular.
According to The Economist/YouGov, Marist and Harry Enten, he's doing surprisingly bad among the voter base. Those were the big polls around the RNC. He's popular with the MAGA Inc people who are prominent on Twitter, but Vance himself isn't doing so hot. RFK would have been a sensational pick if you look at the intersection of groups he appeals to, and the fact that he's transgressive at least in so far that he's an anti-vaxxer.
That doesn't mean that any pick would make a particular difference outside of signaling (although signaling does play an important role in politics). Vance is a symptom of Trump being surrounded by Claremont people, that's it. I believe Groypers have some influence, but there's no way to actually correct what's going on. Pence wasn't a great VP, but he was a great pick at the time, because he was hardcore law and order (which is code for pro white) and anti gay. Great signaling.
Vance is just a guy who tries to score points with 6 year old Gavin McInnes memes about childless cat-ladies (which he backpaddled from). He also tries to do the whiny Rust Belt loser thing, like Oliver Anthony, which is far less appealing than Electric Pence with laser eyes putting gays into conversion therapy (as a meme, that is) in 2016. Bellyaching is what it is, which is a black people thing that white people shouldn't engage in. It only works if the people addressed are likely to feel compassion for you, and no enemy of White Christians has any compassion with us whatsoever, so just be strong and decisive.
White people liked Trump because he seemed strong and unbreakable, a true warrior, with a huge, broad-shouldered homophobic anti-feminist running mate. JD Vance is literally just a guy crying about how rough it is in rural Ohio, married to an Indian.
15 years ago he'd have been a Democrat with the exact same talking points (except that the Dems still had some anti sodomite marriage people back then. Vance probably disinvites people from his dinner parties who are against gay marriage and race mixing).
No bueno. People want right wing, people want deportation memes, people want to see democrats having a mental breakdown instead of their current "gosh, republicans are so weeeeiiird" shtick.
That doesn't mean that any pick would make a particular difference outside of signaling (although signaling does play an important role in politics). Vance is a symptom of Trump being surrounded by Claremont people, that's it. I believe Groypers have some influence, but there's no way to actually correct what's going on. Pence wasn't a great VP, but he was a great pick at the time, because he was hardcore law and order (which is code for pro white) and anti gay. Great signaling.
Vance is just a guy who tries to score points with 6 year old Gavin McInnes memes about childless cat-ladies (which he backpaddled from). He also tries to do the whiny Rust Belt loser thing, like Oliver Anthony, which is far less appealing than Electric Pence with laser eyes putting gays into conversion therapy (as a meme, that is) in 2016. Bellyaching is what it is, which is a black people thing that white people shouldn't engage in. It only works if the people addressed are likely to feel compassion for you, and no enemy of White Christians has any compassion with us whatsoever, so just be strong and decisive.
White people liked Trump because he seemed strong and unbreakable, a true warrior, with a huge, broad-shouldered homophobic anti-feminist running mate. JD Vance is literally just a guy crying about how rough it is in rural Ohio, married to an Indian.
15 years ago he'd have been a Democrat with the exact same talking points (except that the Dems still had some anti sodomite marriage people back then. Vance probably disinvites people from his dinner parties who are against gay marriage and race mixing).
No bueno. People want right wing, people want deportation memes, people want to see democrats having a mental breakdown instead of their current "gosh, republicans are so weeeeiiird" shtick.
The rightwing appears to be headed for a split. Tucker did two big things that made me realize at best he couldn't be trusted as a good source of information and/or a real leader of opposition to this system.
#1) When he said White Nationalists could never speak for him and he would be disgusted by it.
#2) When his advice was to run off to the rural area, live in near poverty, and just spit out kids. This is what the elites want us to do. To surrender our cities, surrender our ability to build wealth, and surrender our ability to organize and connect. His advice goes hand in hand with what the satanic elites hope we do so we can quietly disappear and become a tiny minority.
#1) When he said White Nationalists could never speak for him and he would be disgusted by it.
#2) When his advice was to run off to the rural area, live in near poverty, and just spit out kids. This is what the elites want us to do. To surrender our cities, surrender our ability to build wealth, and surrender our ability to organize and connect. His advice goes hand in hand with what the satanic elites hope we do so we can quietly disappear and become a tiny minority.
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I think personally that Nick is a fed as I've stated based off of how all other America First folks have completely cut him out.
Pushing Nick Fuentes is a surefire way to relegate you to a position of zero leverage.
Who are the "all the other America First people". I'm not being facetious, but if theres better people to follow than I do, I'd like to know.
I like Scott Greer
And Darren Beattie who runs Revolver.news and has been exposing the J6 fedsurrection.
it's scot-free, an old expression. You might also get a kick out of this from the late, great Kentucky Fried Movie:
Yes, sadly you have to wait for pain, and even that won't work for most, or at least, a lot. Usually people do what "feels right" to them, which is the basis for the cultural propaganda, as it is more important for people to "get along" in general, rather than be disagreeable.
Yes they do, but the essence of critical thinking is the right order of thinking. People want to feel is correct, which means people typically start with the conclusion and then back fit to try to act like they know what they are talking about. The problem with this is if you happen to choose the wrong conclusion, the logic will reveal it. But then the next part would be to change your thinking, which most won't do due to ego protection. As I've said in other places, insecurity is the ultimate source of disordered thinking. Emotions can be too, but typically these go hand in hand.
That's just a rhetorical device. You can technically say that and not mean what you think he means, even if he somewhat believes in some sort of egalitarian version the world that is possible, but uncommon.
I don't think he ever said this or means it like you are stating. He's a product of his own time and wealthy so his advice is fairly irrelevant in this regard, anyway. The kids thing is good advice IF X, Y and Z which most don't have AND/OR even if you have them, it's dependent on finding a young woman who is willing to go the distance with you. Yeah, good luck with that.
What's going to happen in any case is that we'll regionally divide. How soon, how fully, or how violently is anyone's guess.