Nick Fuentes Thread

Fuentes and Owen Benjamin had a beef back in 2019, which Steve Franssen analyzed below.

After all these years, I don't think Benjamin has any credibility whatsoever. Look at his last conflict that happened with Devon Stack and all of Benjamin's lies were brought up at the same time. I followed him for a few years and you can't believe anything this guy says.

 

First, my biases: It's entirely possible Nick is closeted gay and it would not surprise me. As for Vox, I think he's a retarded Narcissist who STILL is stuck in Q Anon style thinking.


I don't particularly buy the argument because

1: Owen's arguments are entirely based on hypothesis and some cut clips. In some of those clips the time of Nicks voice is very clearly Sarcastic.

2: Nick had plenty of receipts when it came to arguing against Tucker

3: Tucker has been caught red handed in multiple lies (e.g. claiming he didn't know his dad was CIA).
 

It's a shame because I quite like Vox Day's writing and projects but it's true, I can see why Nick wouldn't want to bother debating him. Vox lacks charisma, Nick's audience skews a lot younger, they have completely orthogonal approaches to marketing and they mostly agree on the same core issues. Better to each stay in their own lane.
 
Yeah he's definitely on Vox's radar on his blog.

 
Yeah he's definitely on Vox's radar on his blog.

Why should we believe that?
 
His Fetish for Sophisticated Word Fluff, while dancing around the Central Problem of Western European Christendom known as the JQ is quite exhausting. Although I'll admittedly check out his blog occasionally.
His writing is excellent.

He's just very boring when you listen to him talk outside of his writing.

Verbose dialogue for it's own sake is the sign of a mid wid, yet Vox insists on being some grand wizard of high IQ.... Sort of begs the question me thinks ....
 
This actually is about to get very interesting. I don't know how the people who really run this country handle it. They messed up and let Nick get too big. Of course, they will tell their puppets Trump and Vance to ignore Nick and pretend like he doesn't exist. It is the only move they have. But the more Nick can hit their orbiters and get them to respond, the further his message goes. And this is just starting to grow legs. The number of young people who still buy into silly red team v. blue team nonsense is a fraction of older generations. They don't care if Nick attacks someone who once defended him. In fact, they probably like it because they don't like Vance either, so it only helps him grow among the future of this country.

The guys I listen to and learn from were years ahead of Nick. That is why I was never a huge fan of Nick, all I got was childish remarks and outdated political talk from him. But by being behind the curve, he was able to grow large before the powers that be identified him as a threat. So, the guys I listen to really are censored and not allowed on twitter, Nick was able to sneak under the radar and grow a large enough audience that the powers that be can't just ban him and pretend he doesn't exist. It only adds fuel to the fire.

The smart move, by the men who pull Vance's puppet strings, would be to try to bribe Nick to go away. Will he take that bribe? I don't think he will because he already has enough and wants nothing to do with this system.
 
^Nick can serve them well without them bribing him just through his love of drama and tendency to sow discord among patriots. Also they like his over the top trolling, which makes the cause look bad for the normies. Contrast with Candace and Tucker, who are always careful at staying within the Overton window of their audience while moving that window in the right direction.
 
The smart move, by the men who pull Vance's puppet strings, would be to try to bribe Nick to go away. Will he take that bribe? I don't think he will because he already has enough and wants nothing to do with this system.
His Joker origin story was when Kassy Dillon (now Kassy Akiva after marrying and converting to Judaism), a conservative "campus activist," asked him if he was willing to go on a trip to Israel and he rebuffed her. He has said she and others who he considered friends were constantly telling him to lay off criticizing Israel but he didn't let up. Shortly thereafter he and his RSBN show were canceled and all his (neo)conservative connections shunned him, and he went from moderate criticism of Israel and Jewry to reading out the (now infamous) Cookie Monster Holocaust oven superchat.
 
^Nick can serve them well without them bribing him just through his love of drama and tendency to sow discord among patriots. Also they like his over the top trolling, which makes the cause look bad for the normies. Contrast with Candace and Tucker, who are always careful at staying within the Overton window of their audience while moving that window in the right direction.
Well, when I hear the word "normie" I think of boomers and x'ers, who are not only not Nick's audience, they really have no value to the future of this country. Boomers are a lost cause, X'ers (and I am one) are far more aware of things, but of little value as well. We are starting to age out.

The future is for those under 30. And the normies under this age are either left wing weirdos (low T men, minorities, ugly women) or they are right up Nick's ally. I don't see Nick alienating any young right wing men with his talking points. I don't see him being a leader, he doesn't have that masculine ability, but I see him being successful at pushing the Overton window so that when a real leader does arrive, the crowd will already be organized. And organization is most of the battle int this fight.

I don't see Nick as a leader, I see him as a major pain in the butt for the powers that be, simply because he does speak about things that no one else with his reach does, other than maybe Dan Bilzerian and the powers that be don't know how to shut him down now his reach is so large.

And the guys I listen to don't like him at all, but I do see him causing a large ruckus and the number of non-weirdo leftist under 30 who will side with Vance over Nick, when this administration is done failing their base, will be tiny.
 
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