Moving Abroad Before the Collapse

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Australia Sucks said:
But again there aren't enough of these women to go around for everybody. So again its the same situation as western countries that most women are not marriage material. The difference being that the minority of marriage worthy women is higher (say 10% instead of 2% or at most 5% in the west). Its honestly not that much of an improvement. Better yes, but not radically so.
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But there is enough to go around for everyone because your average secular Russian man is not going to be interested in these women. He's going after the hot blonde in makeup and heels who posts attention-seeking pictures on Instagram. And my impression is even those women in Russia or nearly any European country seem more pleasant and feminine than the obnoxious, obese ones we have to deal with here.

The situation in the US and other convert-heavy countries is that in Orthodox churches there are generally far more young men than women, except in some parishes that are more ethnic. I don't know what the ratio is in Russia without actually being there, but it can't possibly be worse than here.

And if we have 10% of women being marriageable in Russia, that IS a radical difference. Going from 2% to 10% is life-changing if you put it in perspective. To be in the top 10% in the US you have to make $150k, which is difficult but in reach for many professions. A STEM worker with a few years experience can make that. To be in the top 2% you have to make $300k which is nearly impossible for most people unless they strike it lucky as entrepreneurs. Also women's standards are lower in Russia because many of the dudes are busted as Roosh pointed out so astutely. So that $150k goes a lot further there.

Let God Arise said:
Well, look at "Muslim" Turkey...unless the guys all have a 30 notch count and the women 0...somebody's got some 'splainin' to do...
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I'm really skeptical of the surveys they used to collect this info. Are these surveys going to impoverished Islamic villages in Anatolia? Or are they being taken online by the secular Istanbul women who follow the Kardashians.
 
analyst_green said:
Also women's standards are lower in Russia because many of the dudes are busted as Roosh pointed out so astutely.
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U.S.A. is not the Netherlands, Norway or Spain. Most American dudes are pretty busted too but the main difference is there aren't that many beautiful women in the U.S.A. so you don't see them paired up with busted men (unless the dude is mega rich) like you do in Russia.
 
Australia Sucks said:
U.S.A. is not the Netherlands, Norway or Spain. Most American dudes are pretty busted too but the main difference is there aren't that many beautiful women in the U.S.A. so you don't see them paired up with busted men (unless the dude is mega rich) like you do in Russia.
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Yes, but there is a huge subset of guys in the US who are obsessed with eating healthy, working out, dressing well, and looking good. For example go to SoCal where the elite send their kids to school. At UCLA, USC, or Pepperdine hardly anyone is busted.
 
Pravoslavac said:
What a bigoted lie! Obviously you've never been there. Who's ass did you pull this out of? Rotchilds?
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Yeah seriously, some of these statistics are ridiculous. The IQ of US blacks is on average 85. Some say even closer to 90. Now compare Harlem, inner Detroit or southside Chicago to Podgorica, and it's pretty obvious which group has the lower IQ.
 
analyst_green said:
Yeah seriously, some of these statistics are ridiculous. The IQ of US blacks is on average 85. Some say even closer to 90. Now compare Harlem, inner Detroit or southside Chicago to Podgorica, and it's pretty obvious which group has the lower IQ.
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Are you using the relative state of buildings and general infrastructure as a proxy for IQ? If this is the case, then the average IQ in Montenegro might actually be lower than whats reported.
 
Wouldn't it be accurate that in many of those FSU countries you'd get a marked increase in annoying IG and prostitute/transactional types but you'd also get a major increase in marriageable women, as @analyst_green said? Most of that is due to the fact that your total pool of better looking and thing women span 18-30. There are probably 20-50x as many women that one can meet in real life daily by just walking out on the street. When you know that there is little ROI or possibility due to age gap taboos in the west, even if you see women and you don't know them they become irrelevant because so few are even worth talking to for probably 5-10 reasons. And to that (western) woman she barely sees a possible increase in her standard of living, maybe the biggest difference. The key to all of it is behavior.
 
A guy made a recent youtube video on Russia after the UK citizens were told not to go there. You can see it's great and clean, calm, quiet. A girl accompanies him and is excited, you can sense the joy and femininity in her. Who knows if its' a show but you just don't see that kind of thing commonly in the west; it really stood out. She's probably only like a 6 for there too, at best. It looks like a place one really should go to.
 
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