I think this is rural meets modernity. The spirit of the age, and information, is something far different than it ever was.
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Hold on now - who is initiating the divorces? In America we know the women are broken because they initiate 75% of divorces. The divorce lawyers report this!
How about Russia, anyone know? Is it men or women doing the divorcing? If, judging from the higher Church attendance rates of women in Russia, I suspect it is the men doing the divorcing in Russia, which would indicate they are just spoiled drunks who take their women for granted.
Look at that Jaguarcat guy - he was Russian, and he was an insane fool. Is he the typical Russia male? No wonder the women are miserable there!
Don't believe the propaganda you hear from Russian women. Russian women are known for gold digging, scheming, ruthlessness and selfishness. Although they are still less bad then western women - but that is a pretty low hurdle to surpass. Although to be fair also big city Russian women and small town Russian women are completely different.
I mean sure the average Russian woman when they are inside Russia will likely behave somewhat better than a western woman only because they cannot get a way with behaving as badly due to the economy and the severe lack of high SMV men. I have seen with my own eyes the minute a typical Russian woman sets foot in the west they behave every bit as badly as a typical western woman.
Is this supposed to be a joke? This sums up 100% of the American women I've dated.
That's the only hurdle we have at the moment. I'm not really sure anything else matters.
It is almost certainly the case that women simply conform to their environment, however, that does not explain why Russian women are more Orthodox. Religiosity shows they are better than the men.
Also, this also means one must move and settle in Russia to truly enjoy the benefits. Otherwise your daughters will grow up in a toxic environment in America.
I agree that western women are awful. That doesn't automatically make Russian women good. They are simply somewhat less awful than western women.
Yes I agree with this. Myself, Blade Runner and many others on the forum have stated this point numerous times that if you want to find a traditional girl to marry best to marry her and stay in her country (or at least move to a non-western country). You don't marry a traditional girl and bring her back to a "western" country.
Anyway my main point is that you were somehow portraying the average Russian woman as highly virtuous and suffering from living with those horrible Russian men but its simply not a realistic picture. It might have been true 50 years ago but the modern Russian woman is pretty bad even if their men are worse then their women I certainly don't sorry for the women.
And yes the women might appear Orthodox but as anyone on this forum knows most women no matter which religious denomination are merely larping and hardly serious about their religion. For women its all about winning social brownie points and feeling better about themselves.
This appears to be false. Statistics that I have seen seem to indicate that women divorce more often than men in Russia. Although its not entirely clear as it seems to be hard to find good statistics on the matter.
World divorce rates Putin perspective
The announcement of the Putins' divorce is the first of its kind in Russia for over 300 years. Heads of state aside, how does Russia compare to the rest of the world?
www.theguardian.com
"At the age of 60, the Russian president, once divorced will be like 6.3% of men his age in the country. The divorce rate for women the age of Lyudmila Putin (currently 55) is considerably higher at 13.9%. The 40-44 age group are the most likely to be divorced in Russia, with 16.2% of women and 10.5% of men in this category stating their marital status is 'divorced'."
The article is from 2013 but I suspect the same basic dynamics are still occurring. Also I did see a post on a reddit thread asserting that Russian women initiate divorce at twice the rate of Russian men but I didn't see any link to evidence to back it up, although it would not surprise me.
This appears to be false. Statistics that I have seen seem to indicate that women divorce more often than men in Russia. Although its not entirely clear as it seems to be hard to find good statistics on the matter.
World divorce rates Putin perspective
The announcement of the Putins' divorce is the first of its kind in Russia for over 300 years. Heads of state aside, how does Russia compare to the rest of the world?
"At the age of 60, the Russian president, once divorced will be like 6.3% of men his age in the country. The divorce rate for women the age of Lyudmila Putin (currently 55) is considerably higher at 13.9%. The 40-44 age group are the most likely to be divorced in Russia, with 16.2% of women and 10.5% of men in this category stating their marital status is 'divorced'."
The article is from 2013 but I suspect the same basic dynamics are still occurring. Also I did see a post on a reddit thread asserting that Russian women initiate divorce at twice the rate of Russian men but I didn't see any link to evidence to back it up, although it would not surprise me.
In America we have 3-5x those numbers (depends on race). Thanks for proving my point about Russia being far better for men than it is in the west! 10% divorce rate for men in their 40's are rookie numbers.
The higher divorce rate for women indicates there is a small subset of Russian women who regret their first marriage and divorce quickly. The solution is obvious: DO NOT DATE DIVORCED WOMEN, just like the Jesus taught.
Edit: There is also a chance there are group of Russian alpha males who marry and divorce women frequently, which is why there are more divorced women than men. Without knowing who initiates divorce more often, it is impossible to draw a conclusion.
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I think you are muddling up your statistics here because the percentage of all men (which includes men that never get married) that are divorced is a completely different statistic than the percentage of marriages that end in divorce.
By the way I never said Russia wasn't better for men than the west. Nobody on this forum is making that argument which frankly would be a non-sensical argument to make. I already agreed multiple times that Russian women are better than western women. I am just pointing out the fact that being less bad than western women is not a sufficient minimum hurdle.
You tried to paint the picture as Russian women being saints and suffering at the hands of insufferable Russian men when its just not the case. I think that Western men for the most part are getting a raw deal. I think in Russia its more balanced between men and women but your perception due to coming from the western perspective where men have it so bad is that Russian women are getting a raw deal which is just not the case.
The average age of first marriage for Russian women is currently 26. And that is skewed lower by all the women who got married more than 10 years ago. If you look at Russian women who are 18 today they will most likely get married at age 29 or 30 like western women do. And most Russian women are not virgins either when they first get married. So literally in Russia all a woman has to do to be able to get her pick of high calibre men is to be pretty (which is most young Russian women), be a virgin and look for a husband when young (aged 18).
Instead most Russian women will go through a party/whoring phase and sleep with at least 3 - 10 guys before getting married. Its less bad then western women but not markedly so. The typical Russian woman might have a notch count that is 30% lower than an equivalent aged western woman and might get married 3 or 4 years younger but I certainly would not call them traditional by any stretch of the imagination. You might want to visit a small town in Belarus to find a traditional young virgin woman for marriage.
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Do you all think that no one has pulled off the "bring her back to the US" thing, or that it's just 90%+ failure rate? Do you think if you had several kids that would change things? I don't plan on it and am not asking for that reason, I'm just curious as to the real number and real reasons why it's such a fail for some dudes who go abroad.
It's a fail for some dudes, but not all. Plenty (statistically the majority) of marriages go the distance, plenty of men have happy families. The thing is, you are disproportionately going to hear from the men who's marraige/family situation crashed and burned. Happy family men are too busy raising their families to complain on reddit or youtube.
If you want to give yourself the best chance possible to not eventually get rinsed by a women (regardless of where shes from), you need to focus on character first, looks second. Too many men think with their little head, and go for the outright sexy girl, and overlook major character flaws. Especially if you are just genetically average Joe and not Chris Evans, I'd say this is even more important.
If she is a materialistic women who is obsessed with beauty and loves to flaunt it, she will have a sea of options in the west and who knows if she'll be tempted. She will be bombarded if she enters the workplace, enters friendship circles or even just goes out and about in the community, goes to the gym or the coffee shop etc. horny aggressive chads are going to shoot their shot.
Me personally, I'd rather have the humble, modest girl. The girl who shows me she is a good woman, and an ideal mother to my kids. Not the woman who shows me she knows how to seduce men and find excitement. And if this woman so happens to be more or less average, your typical 5-6, so be it.
To give this the best chance at going the distance, you have to ask yourself, first and foremost, who exactly is the type of woman I want being the mother of my children, and then ask yourself what type of woman is going to make a great partner in raising a strong family. Not starting out focusing on who's going to make a the best sexual partner (again, where most men focus). Of coarse, you should be attracted to her, but again, be realistic and choose someone on your level. Maybe that sounds harsh, but most men are average, you don't have to land an 8 to feel fulfilled with your marraige, and if that's the sort of fulfillment you need, you are probably doomed. You need to find fulfillment in the family you build, and find a woman who will also thrive off of that fulfillment. I'd avoid women who will strive for fulfillment in climbing the career ladder, chasing lofty academic accomplishments, acquired material objects, various forms of excitement, etc. Find a women who is a believer in God and follows your lead, and wants to give you children and raise a strong family.
I say all of this, and I'm going through it myself. I am an American in a relationship in an Asian country with a local woman. I choose her for all of the reasons I outlined above. Of coarse I think she's beautiful and truly she is but she showed me that inside she is a great woman to raise a family with. We just had a son and I am going through all of the visa processing now to bring them to the states.
I'll say one last thing. I'm approaching 40, when I was around 30 I told myself "when I find the right women sometime in my early to mid 30s I will commit to her and settle down and have a family". I see a lot of other men doing this too, but we just end up spinning our wheels holding out for the perfect girl. As I got into my late 30s I honestly felt alone and that might have to do with losing my parents and siblings growing distant as years go on, but also it sucks being an older man and not having a family. I spent years more or less living alone in apartments and going from one girlfriend to the next. That felt so empty and I had to eventually bite the bullet, commit to a great girl that I realize isn't perfect, and start living my ultimate goal of having a family. I used to think to myself that I just want to raise life. Have a wife, multiple children, dogs, cats, chickens, maybe goats, and just raise it and watch it all thrive, and I couldn't be happier now that I'm on that path.
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Women are a reflection of men. People that separate the two, racially, are retarded. It's not coincidence the blacks do that with whites; white women good, white men bad. If women were truly the same then there would be no reason to go anywhere. Women are different regionally because the men are different. Behaviorally speaking-men create women. I'm not sure how one can't noticed that. Aggressive black women, heartless arrogant burka women, ideological white women, etc. Coincidence?
That's the problem with passport bros. Not only do they corrupt this native dynamic but they rationalize their corruption. "The men here beat women, they're so sweet and innocent, good thing I'm here."
It's pretty easy to guess why they fail. When you're a tourist you enjoy a fairly good social standing. Everything you do is leisurely and as long you bring money you're able to indulge in a level of luxury. Even if you stink of being a loser, you still look good freedom wise.
When you bring a woman back she gets to see you in your natural environment. She gets to see your obligation to your job [slavery], your freak family, your retarded passive aggressive friends, your social status and how much your society values you. For the average white man it's an extremely bleak evaluation. Women are not able to "understand" your circumstances. Your wife is a woman, hopefully, so she likely to enjoy a social standing higher than you. Maybe the locals ends up loving her, while continuing to reject you. Maybe the local men you compete against take an interest in her.
This is why I'm dumbfounded white men don't do everything in their power to consolidate a power base at home or anywhere they go. Any potential wife needs to see you as a member of some tribe. A tribe is not some alpha playground but a close-knit organization with universal privileges. You enjoy the same privileges you extend to others, the more the better. The fact that this "muh dick" philosophy has taken root in white men is bad. The amount of red pill content on youtube throwing around the "loser" word is concerning. If only these "losers" took ownership and became cool like me, then we would have a utopia! These so called "losers" created a whole political faction called leftism and these so called losers are going to determine how far your dumbass boomer hopes and dreams go. You can't disassociate yourself from them. Instead of gate keeping your own imaginary standing in the world, try to figure out how everyone can benefit through your behavior. If the "losers" don't enjoy the privileges of your society then neither will you in the end. It's our job to make sure everyone is looked after and their interests are protected.
Thanks for the post. This is of course accurate.
This is the main problem, as above. I think the problem with other places is that a lot of average guys get over to location X and are so shocked and excited about not being in a total desert anymore, they get a bit out of sorts regarding their analysis of what works in the long game, which is what LTR and marriage are.
Absolutely. I think the problem is that it's hard to find the latter until it's too late in their lives, and that's the issue - if they had the God thing seriously in life, earlier, it would have taken care of itself. It's harder for women than we grant at times, even though I'm very critical, because they really are just creatures that take cues from the outside. And there are too many in the modern developed world, especially when you consider that they peak so early in life regarding when men are attracted to them.
No doubt. Your point on women seeing men in a new setting, the setting of their own country, is a very good one. One thing I've noticed that sucks for a lot of people who are quite normal and good is that when they have kids they meet others who have kids who just reinvent High School all over, and are just as petty as the normies that walk around daily. I saw my parents suffer from this flimsy relation as they raised us and saw other people who they thought were friends really just do clique-ish nonsense. It doesn't help that most people aren't religious anymore or don't fall in our same religious category, to be certain.
I agree wholeheartedly.
I think the biggest reason for failure apart from the obvious ones we all discuss (hypergamy, the western legal system, western culture poisoning women, etc) is low value guys thinking that it’s some kind of short cut/loophole.
If you are a broke guy living a sub middle class lifestyle in the USA or Australia etc and bring over attractive foreign girl she is not going to be impressed with the lifestyle you are providing her and is going to see she can easily monkey branch to another guy who will provide more. I feel that this happens less often when the guy at least has his financials in order before bringing the girl over. Also basically the same kind of logic applies to badly out of shape men. I think if a man has his financials in order and is in reasonable physical shape the chances of divorce go down significantly but it’s still a huge risk.
I still think you are better off moving to the girls country or at least living together in a third place (a non western country)
This is a strawman and never did I make such a case. But that more women are in the Orthodox Church in Russia is a huge tell as to whether or not the men or women are higher quality there.
No, I'm not, and if you'd bother to do some research you'd see I was right on the money.
Completely unfounded assertion.
You are just making stuff up here, nor are you giving relevant numbers for WOMEN IN THE ORTHODOX CHURCH. (10th time I've said it)
You don't seem to grasp the concept of reflection. A reflection is not a copy. A reflection is a reversal. If someone is left-handed, their reflection is right-handed.
Likewise, if someone is good, morally, then their reflection is corrupt, morally. Thus what we see with Blacks and White women: Women women are corrupt in America, which is why they are drawn to corrupt men (Black men).
Thus, it is no coincidence that Orthodoxy in America is strong with the men, but not the women, as we can easily observe that men are far more upright than women, which then leads us to conclude the opposite is true in Russia, where women outnumber men 2:1 in the Church.
If it's a reflection, then that's exactly the logic of reflections.
This is a strawman as most Russians (both men and women) are just nominally religious:
Russians Return to Religion, But Not to Church
Between 1991 and 2008, the share of Russian adults identifying as Orthodox Christian rose from 31% to 72%, according to data from the International Social Survey Programme. During the same period, the share of Russia’s population that does not identify with any religion dropped from 61% to 18%.
www.pewresearch.org
"no more than about one-in-ten Russians said they attend religious services at least once a month. The share of regular attenders (monthly or more often) was 2% in 1991, 9% in 1998 and 7% in 2008." Yes obviously 2008 is a long time ago but I would be surprised if that 7% figure is much different today.
So yes Russian women identify more as Orthodox it does not mean they are actually Orthodox. They are just culturally Orthodox. Unless you can show me church attendance figures for Russian women under 30 (nobody cares about old hags that are past the wall as they are not marriageable) versus Russian men then you have no real argument.
" about eight-in-ten Russian women (81%) were Orthodox Christians, fewer Russian men (63%) said they belonged to the Russian Orthodox Church"
Its not an unfounded assertion.
From an article in 2019. The average age of marriage in Russia is going up over time just as it is in most countries.
"The average woman in Russia gets married eight years later than she did earlier this decade, according to official data."
Russian Women Are Getting Married 8 Years Later On Average, Official Data Says - The Moscow Times
The average woman in Russia gets married eight years later than she did earlier this decade, according to official data.
www.themoscowtimes.com
Its not a big leap to extrapolate that this trend will continue and today's cohort of 18 year old Russian women will get married at age 29 or 30 (instead of the current average of 26) similar to what western women are doing. Anecdotally I see this as well. I have met my fair share of Russian women in their mid 20s who are unmarried and had no plans to get married in the near future.
Can you post stats regarding this for men versus women under the age of 30 (again no sensible man should be looking to marry women over 30)? And I mean in terms of those actually attending church not just nominally Orthodox people.
Practicing Orthodox women (i.e. those who attend church at least once per month) is likely something around 10% of Russian women overall with possibly a lower percentage for women aged 30 or under (just speculating here though). By ignoring the other 90% of women then you aren't getting a realistic picture of Russian women overall plus it also means you are really limiting your options as a man.
Average Number of Sexual Partners by Country 2024
Average number of sexual partners for Russians seems to be around 9 although I have not been able to find a breakdown anywhere for men vs women in Russia but if you look at the countries that have data for men vs women usually men have a slightly higher number but not markedly so. Based on that and supported also with anecdotal evidence a lifetime partner count of 7 for Russian women is as good a guess as any which falls right into what I wrote before about a typical Russian woman having a a notch count of somewhere in the 3 - 10 range. Again like I noted above you cannot only look at practicing Orthodox women because that is only around 10% of total Russian women.
You are absolutely wrong and have compared apples to oranges by comparing the wrong types of statistics. From what I can see 74% of all marriages in Russia end in divorce (one of the highest divorce rates in the world). This compares to 45% of marriages in USA ending in divorce and 43% in Australia and 48% in Canada. Please refer to the table in the article:
Data analysts on World Divorce Rates: Ranking of countries from highest to lowest risk of getting divorced
· World’s highest divorce rate: Portugal with 92% of all marriages ending in divorce. · India
news.cision.com
This is a strawman as most Russians (both men and women) are just nominally religious:
Russians Return to Religion, But Not to Church
Between 1991 and 2008, the share of Russian adults identifying as Orthodox Christian rose from 31% to 72%, according to data from the International Social Survey Programme. During the same period, the share of Russia’s population that does not identify with any religion dropped from 61% to 18%.
"no more than about one-in-ten Russians said they attend religious services at least once a month. The share of regular attenders (monthly or more often) was 2% in 1991, 9% in 1998 and 7% in 2008." Yes obviously 2008 is a long time ago but I would be surprised if that 7% figure is much different today.
It's much different than today. More Churches have been built than in America, so we can assume the numbers are higher to support such growth.
So yes Russian women identify more as Orthodox it does not mean they are actually Orthodox. They are just culturally Orthodox. Unless you can show me church attendance figures for Russian women under 30 (nobody cares about old hags that are past the wall as they are not marriageable) versus Russian men then you have no real argument.
" about eight-in-ten Russian women (81%) were Orthodox Christians, fewer Russian men (63%) said they belonged to the Russian Orthodox Church"
Its not an unfounded assertion.
From an article in 2019. The average age of marriage in Russia is going up over time just as it is in most countries.
"The average woman in Russia gets married eight years later than she did earlier this decade, according to official data."
Russian Women Are Getting Married 8 Years Later On Average, Official Data Says - The Moscow Times
The average woman in Russia gets married eight years later than she did earlier this decade, according to official data.
Its not a big leap to extrapolate that this trend will continue and today's cohort of 18 year old Russian women will get married at age 29 or 30 (instead of the current average of 26) similar to what western women are doing. Anecdotally I see this as well. I have met my fair share of Russian women in their mid 20s who are unmarried and had no plans to get married in the near future.
Secular Russian women might not be much different than American secular women, no argument from me there. I have no real idea, but, they still are better options as a whole. Less obesity, lower notch count, and that national average age of marriage being lower is almost certainly brought down by the young Orthodox women who marry young.
Couldn't care less about the other 90% of secular women. If someone is serious about marriage to a young woman he will obviously look in the Church. Anything else just means you won't have a traditional woman. That 10% who attend weekly is already twice as high as the entirety of America, unless you go to Protestant Churches which are simply social clubs and the women there aren't any different than a night club.
Average Number of Sexual Partners by Country 2024
worldpopulationreview.com
Average number of sexual partners for Russians seems to be around 9 although I have not been able to find a breakdown anywhere for men vs women in Russia but if you look at the countries that have data for men vs women usually men have a slightly higher number but not markedly so. Based on that and supported also with anecdotal evidence a lifetime partner count of 7 for Russian women is as good a guess as any which falls right into what I wrote before about a typical Russian woman having a a notch count of somewhere in the 3 - 10 range. Again like I noted above you cannot only look at practicing Orthodox women because that is only around 10% of total Russian women.
Why on earth would you look at the 90% of secular women, who will not be traditional? Do you not want a marriage to a young woman? You are kidding yourself if you think you will get a good marriage outside of the Church.
You are absolutely wrong and have compared apples to oranges by comparing the wrong types of statistics. From what I can see 74% of all marriages in Russia end in divorce (one of the highest divorce rates in the world). This compares to 45% of marriages in USA ending in divorce and 43% in Australia and 48% in Canada. Please refer to the table in the article:
Data analysts on World Divorce Rates: Ranking of countries from highest to lowest risk of getting divorced
· World’s highest divorce rate: Portugal with 92% of all marriages ending in divorce. · India
Your source is garbage. It links to casinoalpha, a betting website, and the link to the supposed divorce stats is dead.
Every single source I have looked at places Russia in the top 10 countries in the world for having high divorce rates.
Here is another example.
Divorce rates by country: A guide to the top 10 highest & lowest
Divorce rates by country are influenced by legal systems, culture & economic viability. Here are the latest figures on the highest & lowest.
www.australianfamilylawyers.com.au
And another one:
Divorces on the rise in Russia – data
Marriage and birth rates have plummeted as the country faces severe demographic issues
"Russia’s divorce rate has reached unprecedented levels, with eight out of ten marriages ending in separation in 2024, according to Elena Mikhailova, an adviser to the director general of the Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VCIOM). The ratio places Russia third globally for divorce rates, Mikhailova told a press conference on Wednesday.
Statistics from Rosstat have revealed a significant decline in the number of marriages. Between January and September 2024, 689,800 couples married, marking a 5% drop compared to the same period in 2023 and the lowest September figure recorded in 18 years."
So now have shifted the goalposts from Russian women being good in general to the 10% of Russian women who are genuinely Orthodox being good.
So basically we agree then that most Russian women are not good. I would agree if you marry a Russian Orthodox woman that goes to church every week (or even once per month) you have a decent chance of the marriage turning out well and its certainly better than marrying a western women. But again there aren't enough of these women to go around for everybody. So again its the same situation as western countries that most women are not marriage material. The difference being that the minority of marriage worthy women is higher (say 10% instead of 2% or at most 5% in the west). Its honestly not that much of an improvement. Better yes, but not radically so.
I already agreed with this is my previous posts multiple times and nobody is disputing this but being slightly better than the worst women in the world (western women) is really not much of an accomplishment. Its equivalent to being the tallest dwarf.
I just think your narrative that Russian men on average are horrible (largely true) while Russian women are good (largely untrue) is an old trope that doesn't hold true in the modern era.
There are countries in the world where men for the most part are decent and honorable and there are countries where men are mostly trash. There is no country in the modern world I have seen where women are largely good - unless you have extreme brute force like the Taliban. That is because of the decadent modern world. Any degree of freedom for women will corrupt them immensely. Women are just a lot more easily corruptible than men.
Except I haven't seen any evidence to suggest average marriage age for women is dropping in Russia. Just the opposite in fact all the evidence seems to point to the opposite being true and I already provided a link in one of my previous psots. But if you want another link then Statista shows that in 2017 average marriage age for Russian women was 23 in 2019 it was 24 and in 2021 it was 24. So this supports my thesis that average marriage age for Russian women is increasing not decreasing. And some sources even put the average marriage age for Russian women at 26.
Russia: opinion on ideal age to get married 2021 | Statista
Based on respondents' answers, the ideal age for a woman to get married in Russia was considered at 24 years old in 2021, which remained the same as in 2019.
www.statista.com
Even if what you are saying is true that Orthodox women are marrying younger than in previous years (although you did not provide any evidence for this) it is overwhelmed by all the secular Russian women who are marrying later than before hence why the statistics for average marriage age for Russian women is increasing.
Also the marriage rate overall for Russians (both men and women) is declining.
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Every single source I have looked at places Russia in the top 10 countries in the world for having high divorce rates.
Here is another example.
Divorce rates by country: A guide to the top 10 highest & lowest
Divorce rates by country are influenced by legal systems, culture & economic viability. Here are the latest figures on the highest & lowest.
And another one:
Divorces on the rise in Russia – data
Marriage and birth rates have plummeted as the country faces severe demographic issueswww.rt.com
"Russia’s divorce rate has reached unprecedented levels, with eight out of ten marriages ending in separation in 2024, according to Elena Mikhailova, an adviser to the director general of the Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VCIOM). The ratio places Russia third globally for divorce rates, Mikhailova told a press conference on Wednesday.
Statistics from Rosstat have revealed a significant decline in the number of marriages. Between January and September 2024, 689,800 couples married, marking a 5% drop compared to the same period in 2023 and the lowest September figure recorded in 18 years."
Alright, RT is an actually reliable source because they are quoting official government stats. This is probably one of the most reliable sources we'll find. Indeed the situation in Russia matches the worldwide trend of declining marriages and birthrates, but we do not know why.
Who is initiating the divorces?
No, this was my argument from the start and the entire reason as to why going to Russia would even be worthwhile. For if Russian women outnumber men 2:1 at the Churches, that creates a favorable ratio for marriage minded men. Doesn't matter if the rest of Russia is good or bad when you put it in a personal perspective.
Whether or not there are enough women for everyone is irrelevant because 99% of American men won't migrate to Russia. Conversely if the Russian women outnumber men 2:1 at the Churches, then any man who does migrate should find a favorable dating environment. As to the quality, receptivity of these women, I have no idea, but 2:1 is still better than not.
I have no idea - that's my only question. And really I don't think anyone has any idea, until we can find out who is initiating the divorces.
Then why aren't divorces in India sky-high? Place is full of thieves and women are largely ugly, yet only 1% divorce rate. Although adultery could be rampant and everyone simply accepts it rather than divorce.
Russia: opinion on ideal age to get married 2021 | Statista
Based on respondents' answers, the ideal age for a woman to get married in Russia was considered at 24 years old in 2021, which remained the same as in 2019.
Even if what you are saying is true that Orthodox women are marrying younger than in previous years (although you did not provide any evidence for this) it is overwhelmed by all the secular Russian women who are marrying later than before hence why the statistics for average marriage age for Russian women is increasing.
Also the marriage rate overall for Russians (both men and women) is declining.
Religious women always marry younger than secular women, true everywhere in the world. As for secular women in Russia facing severe challenges, I'm not surprised. Without God there is no chance for modern civilization.
