I haven't followed this thread closely, but I think that a slow, continuous decline is a lot more likely than a collapse. The banksters have been slowly raising the temperature, it's the boiling frog paradigm. Normies' expectations have been constantly lowered, the new normal getting worse, gradually.
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Yeah, I used to read John Michael Greer quite a bit before the doomerism of the collapse-sphere got to me (when I was an atheist.) It will be a slow decline and largely just accepted with apathy as the new normal. At most, some people might say, a la Sam Hyde: “it’s the big businesses bro! It’s just the big businesses!” And continue to think socialism will solve everything.
You went to Russia with a tourist visa? How was the visa situation? Was it easy or hard to deal with the bureaucracy?
Yeah, things will just gradually keep getting worse and people will simply keep learning to live with it. Even in failed states like Somalia, the people just learn to live with it.
Yea Roosh just reminds of Georgian basketball players.
The last guy is actually Russian, just for comparison. I doubt people are referring to him as black.
It's like everything else, especially as you age, if you aren't expressly just seeking things like sex to make up for the past desert/drought/gynocentric society, you realize that regardless of what you do or where you, you need a woman with godliness. It's rare, which is the problem, especially when men seek other particular qualities that also aren't common, for women in the modern day, along with it.
It could be that I have greater hope or think that the different races of people are actually stark in their particular traits, but most "failed" states go hand in hand with low IQ people. You see this over most of South America too.
That is generally true but there are always has to be at least a few exceptions. Just ask the Argentinians or the North Koreans
That is generally true but there are always has to be at least a few exceptions. Just ask the Argentinians or the North Koreans
Argentina is a failed state because the Italians and Spaniards are generally lazy people. Australia is essentially the same, but with British genes at its core, therefore, they have no such issues.
Regarding the talk about Russia and religious values we had earlier, I'm still amazed at the divorce rates. In some regions they are at 80%. The lowest divorce rates are found the Muslim dominated areas, like Chechnya (15%) and Dagestan (27%). Still insanely for Muslims, but comparable to Albania or Bosnia in terms of what role religion actually plays, as I mentioned earlier.
I got the info from this Russian site.
https://russia.duck.consulting/maps/98
I'm sure a translation tool can be used for the who don't speak the language.
Italy's GDP per capita (PPP) is actually nearly as high as the UK's, and is only really dragged down by the south. Spain is also far more developed than Argentina, which itself is more comparable to Serbia or Georgia in economic terms. So I think there's something else going on there.
Regarding Russia, it's interesting that the table shows Moscow and St Petersburg having some of the lowest divorce rates because those are perhaps the most secular regions. But they are the wealthiest too. I would venture to guess that much of the divorce in Russia is caused by poverty and its associated issues like alcoholism or drugs.
Divorce is quick and easy in Russia. When you have a rural culture that emphasizes a girl getting married young, quality rural male prospects limited, they tend to get divorced quickly. I assume it’s not so different in rural parts of other countries.
Yep, I'm totally with you on explanations regarding divorce. Regarding religion, it's also interesting how depending on which source I look at around 20% of the population of some of Russia's regions is listed as "spiritual but not religious" and some even have shamanism at around 2%. A truly fascinating place.
I heard about divorce being considered pretty normal in Russia and that the main purpose of marriage is just to get that monkey off your back as a young person.
The rural divorce theory is interesting. I had a look at Spanish statistics and it seems as though the opposite is the case there. The bigger cities, like Barcelona, Madrid and Valencia have higher divorce rates. However, Ceuta (which is the part of Spain located inside Morocco) has the highest divorce rate.
That said, in rural parts of the US your divorce rate theory holds true. It seems as though it just differs from country to country.
Not surprised. Is it really any different in the West though? It seems everyone these days is reading some New Age woo-woo books and talking about how "spiritual" they are. The number of dreamcatchers I see hanging from rearview mirrors every week is crazy. It's all okay for them as long as it's not "organized religion" and doesn't "repress you" or "stifle your imagination".
They are lazy in different ways then Americans, etc are lazy. You are much more likely to see an Italian or Spaniard walk somewhere rather than drive (like Americans do) and they are much more likely to cook a meal from scratch than an American. But yes its much rarer to see an Italian or Spaniard working 80 hour weeks like so many Americans do.
A lot of women I meet are weird pseudo-buddhists of some sort. They'll have Buddha statues and they'll meditate, but they'll also have dreamcatchers and healing crystals and they'll believe in Feng Shui and so on.
They just mix a bunch of things from various religions and perhaps a bit of witchcraft, whatever seems trendy or "so spiritual and stuff" to them that week. It's very common and I see it in women I deeply care about, so I've learned to tolerate it and perhaps find it kind of cute in a way, but it's sad that they are so spiritually rootless.
As an American, I'll gladly take walking, cooking and not working 80 hours a week.