Moving Abroad Before the Collapse

Do you get to pick where you go in Russia? I'd want the Black Sea/Caucasus region

No idea....I think the Russians are just getting started with this plan.
I had hoped for years that Putin would offer people disgusted by all this endless demonic garbage an escape route, and now it seems it's finally really happening.

The only real concern I would have is if if by moving there you automatically can be drafted into the Russian military in a future war.
If it does happen at least one would be on the side fighting for Christ and Orthodoxy.
 
The amount of safe public land is absolutely one of the best things about the US. Especially in the Western part of the country. Almost any type of climate or scenery you'd want, and hundreds of miles of wide open space. Also lots of right-wing white people and Christians in the Mountain West.
And sadly, especially for those with money or some resources and are 35-55, this means almost nothing when no decent women, potential wives, etc are around. In the other thread I said most threads regarding living elsewhere are about two things: monetary confiscation and women, which are related. I guess I could add a third, which would be surveillance state. That might be the one thing that would push someone to move irrespective of the women problem.
 
And sadly, especially for those with money or some resources and are 35-55, this means almost nothing when no decent women, potential wives, etc are around. In the other thread I said most threads regarding living elsewhere are about two things: monetary confiscation and women, which are related. I guess I could add a third, which would be surveillance state. That might be the one thing that would push someone to move irrespective of the women problem.
You're not wrong, but it is what it is. I'm going to enjoy life with or without a wife and kids.

Or you could move abroad, meet younger women, etc. I'd rather be content with peace and quiet than dwell over the awful women out there. Ironically, I think this is when the chances of meeting the few nice women increases a lot.
 
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You're not wrong, but it is what it is. I'm going to enjoy life with or without a wife and kids.
To be certain, the women and family thing is not the be all/end all. Even among the Christians, while children can be a blessing, they can go in all sorts of directions, and I tend to think that most people (as their primal base is guided by the fallen "evolutionary" world) are just fulfilling this instinct, which of course has to be strong (or we wouldn't be here).

The forum is about trying to make sense of life and perhaps more directly, discerning the "secret will" of the Father as Fr. Moses has pointed out. Once you have become successful, you really do see more of the folly of the world, since on average you got there via smarts and skill (not the case for all of course). The purpose then becomes getting the women you couldn't get previously, getting a legacy or family, or for some realizing the world itself (this world) is absurd but it has meaning because of Jesus Christ has revealed to us and what the Holy Trinity has has planned for those who are faithful.

As I was reminded recently, there is truth in the fact that it is at times better for us not to be granted "what we wish", but again that a lot of times can only be seen in retrospect, and we likely also disregard what was granted that was good, so we are inherently biased. The point is that it's really hard for us to see purpose in things, as we are inclined to want/do things (good and bad), but we're oftentimes mixed up in our instincts.

I'm going on a bit here so forgive me, but I do perceive that some really drastic things will continue to happen or even jump the shark on what has happened recently in history, let's say within the next 5-10 years. Those realities will sober up many of the things about the world that we think, what we should do, what we should plan, or even care about at all. I could be wrong, but I think the odds will be quite high of seeing real life questions, harder than ever, come up.
 
You spineless cowards.

There is no "escaping the collapse". It will be worldwide.

You cannot love God without loving your neighbor, that's a fact.
Can you love God without loving your country ? Without the will to do your duty ?

You're not wrong, but it is what it is. I'm going to enjoy life with or without a wife and kids.
You are not supposed to enjoy life, you are supposed to carry your cross and do your duty.

A real christian is happy while suffering, knowing he's suffering for truth.

I'm not going anywhere and with God's help I may be useful for my country.

You're going to suffer anyway. If you want to suffer in a foreign country, so be it.
 
You spineless cowards.

There is no "escaping the collapse". It will be worldwide.

You cannot love God without loving your neighbor, that's a fact.
Can you love God without loving your country ? Without the will to do your duty ?


You are not supposed to enjoy life, you are supposed to carry your cross and do your duty.

A real christian is happy while suffering, knowing he's suffering for truth.

I'm not going anywhere and with God's help I may be useful for my country.

You're going to suffer anyway. If you want to suffer in a foreign country, so be it.

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He has a point though...no escaping the collapse.
To give you an example my wife is Indonesian, her family is in west Timor which geographically is the arse end of the world even for Indonesia. Her nieces and young cousins at the local university are learning mostly the U.S syllabus with its feminist agenda. I know this because I get called occasionally to assist with various assignments they're having difficulty with due to the language barrier.

During covid they went all in for a hard lockdown and mass vaccination, they are a very compliant people with anything govt sanctioned.
My point is even the most remote areas of the world are becoming pozzed at an alarming rate. I really dont understand people who fail to notice that most govts are in synch/lockstep with each other, sure I will concede that they do differ on some things culturally, economics etc, but its true what they say...its a big club and you ain't in it.
Sorry gents but theres nowhere to run, thats my opinion.
 
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Hahah, this forum is full of race traitors.
Probably not White themselves.
No wonder the hatred towards Nordic White on here.
Sell your race, your ancestors, your lands your roots, that's what this relocation thread is about.
Interracial breeding is abhorrent and exactly what the elites want to destroy white race.

And total BS that there are no conservative white women to meet in the US, just an excuse for own failures and to do race mixing in countries full of prostitutes and women marrying for money and passports.
 
I'm not going anywhere and with God's help I may be useful for my country.
"my country" is the funniest part of that.
He has a point though...no escaping the collapse.
If you know history, this is an absurd statement to make. It's in just recent history that this is totally false.
And total BS that there are no conservative white women to meet in the US, just an excuse for own failures and to do race mixing in countries full of prostitutes and women marrying for money and passports.
The idea is that whether their fault or not, women don't run the race with you, and by the time you've achieved and are successful, there aren't "conservative" women that are any different than the cultural status quo, which thinks something like a proven 35 year old man is "old." And we haven't even talked about in shape, above average looking, pleasant, etc.

Gimme a break, jag
 
Bottom line, most other countries are populated by browns.
Japanese are a notable exception to the awfulness of non-whites, it's for a good reason Hitler had been friends with them, but the reason they remain Japanese is because they had maintained their racial purity and despised outsiders even after the US had occupied them.
Moving to the shitskin monkey lands countries and engaging with their women is betraying own race, if that race is Nordic.
(I can't speak for other European races, Nordic is the only one of interest to me, the other Europeans already mixed with browns that's how they got their dark looks)
Plenty of conservative women in the US, Australia, etc, who aren't greedy, but people chose to ignore those "plain" women because they don't really like white women and just want to mix their race and create a mongrel race like in that hellhole Brazil.
I've seen enough all-white US communities and families to know white people can live just fine in Anglo countries.
If someone goes around chasing money, other false things, chasing whores including brown ones, they won't be morally pure and clean to create a family with a decent white woman.
Get some land in Alaska and live there, build your own home, work in seasonal industries, that's how homesteaders did it without gazillion of conveniences rotten modern people demand, but no, everyone wants to live in some hellhole city in comforts and be rich, then they complain only whores fall for them.
 
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Bottom line, most other countries are populated by browns.
Plenty of whites in Latin America. Not to mention that there are many countries in Europe where there are attractive and non feminist white women in decent numbers (the Balkans, the Baltics, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine (once the war is finished), Russia (once the war is finished), Belarus, etc. Plus you have clusters of "white" Indo-European people in parts of the middle east and central asia, etc such as Iran, Armenia, etc.

Even if you want to stick to white people why would you bother with Anglosphere countries. Even Brazil which you point to as a mixed race country (which it is) has plenty of cities/towns with large numbers of German or Portuguese or Italian descended white people, and these women would make far superior wives to an Australian, British or American woman. At this point you would have to be nuts to look for a wife in an Anglosphere country.
 
Plenty of conservative women in the US, Australia, etc, who aren't greedy, but people chose to ignore those "plain" women because they don't really like white women
No there are not plenty of these conservative women. If they were plentiful we would not need to look overseas. Conservative white women who are single, unmarried, without children, young and thin and looking to get married young are less than 1% of the female population in the Anglosphere. You are trying to basically make the claim that unicorns are common which is absurd and needs to be called out.
 
Plenty of conservative women in the US, Australia, etc, who aren't greedy, but people chose to ignore those "plain" women because they don't really like white women and just want to mix their race and create a mongrel race like in that hellhole Brazil.
Wrong. There are probably some plain types for the guys who are 5s, and that's also fine, but those 5s who are women want guys like me. Not realistic.
Plenty of whites in Latin America. Not to mention that there are many countries in Europe where there are attractive and non feminist white women in decent numbers (the Balkans, the Baltics, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine (once the war is finished), Russia (once the war is finished), Belarus, etc. Plus you have clusters of "white" Indo-European people in parts of the middle east and central asia, etc such as Iran, Armenia, etc.
Yes, this is true. The trick is how to best meet a lot of them in the mid 20s or younger group. In my view volume of meets and in real life, not cold approaching really (though it can work, it's a weird way to "meet" and has some distrust intrinsically), is the key to finding a compatible girl. That's why there are so many fails in the anglosphere. Few natural meets, few thin women, few young women. Or young women don't even think of marriage at age 22-24.
Conservative white women who are single, unmarried, without children, young and thin and looking to get married young are less than 1% of the female population in the Anglosphere. You are trying to basically make the claim that unicorns are common which is absurd and needs to be called out.
I also came to that conclusion in the last few years. 1-2% at best, and also confounded by the associated characteristics of young, good looking and thin being pretty much the same person.

Just ask hoe math for a drawing or % break down. He'll show you instantly that an American 7 man (who is richer than most in the entire world, overall rating here not just looks) basically at best just interacts with 5s, maybe 5.5s for serious dating or LTRs. I think it's likely worse in Australia or the UK. That alone shows you how worthless the possible mate situation is for him. Matches of SMV difference can only work for women being higher, and they are only higher for like 10 years, at best, and that's starting at age 16. That's why historically the man might be with a woman who is points higher than him on the physical attractiveness scale. Because it goes away. But his wisdom, planning, and money/resources don't. This is one of those obvious things that few actually break down.
 
Get some land in Alaska and live there, build your own home, work in seasonal industries, that's how homesteaders did it without gazillion of conveniences rotten modern people demand, but no, everyone wants to live in some hellhole city in comforts and be rich, then they complain only whores fall for them.
Don't you have to have experience in order to work seasonal jobs in Alaska? I'm asking, because my son wants to move there.
 
e only real concern I would have is if if by moving there you automatically can be drafted into the Russian military in a future war.
I assume, unless you have prior military experience, the odds of you being drafted after the age of 25 are nil, just like in the jew S of Ghey.
 
And sadly, especially for those with money or some resources and are 35-55, this means almost nothing when no decent women, potential wives, etc are around.
I live a major west European city and absolutely ZERO women are interested in me. Being Orthodox pretty much seals your fate as well, in case one happens to slip under the radar. Living in a remote, white, rural underdeveloped part of the US is going to provide even fewer options to find a wife. That is my logical conclusion. If you choose a life like that, you have to assume you will be on your own. As I've posted before, men may be ready to hunker down and live a bunker/prepper/survivalist lifestyle, but 90% of western women are still window shopping at Tiffanys.
 
I live a major west European city and absolutely ZERO women are interested in me. Being Orthodox pretty much seals your fate as well, in case one happens to slip under the radar.
If you're serious about the Orthodox faith, which means at all in modernity, this brought up another potential pitfall for finding a partner in the west, since so few of us are around. If pickings are slim, and you throw another low % quality in there, it becomes vastly harder.

One thing that might have protected you would be the possibility of divorce, in the case you didn't believe in much (either the man or woman). So if you were just a well to do man who didn't have a faith tradition, odds are that you would both date and possibly marry a greater number of people, but I suspect you'd also be more likely to have gotten divorced. Double edged sword.
 
I've been to Russia twice now. Everyone's mileage may differ, but I can literally choose the women I want to be with over there. And we're talking, beautiful conservative, highly intelligent women. Not sure what the deal is here with all the black pilling. It's not difficult to get a digital visa if you want to go and check it out yourself next spring. You have six to eight months to acquire some basic Russian. Not an easy language, but very beautiful and well worth the effort.

By the way, no Westerner going to Russia will be drafted. If you really believe that, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you 😂
 
I've been to Russia twice now. Everyone's mileage may differ, but I can literally choose the women I want to be with over there. And we're talking, beautiful conservative, highly intelligent women. Not sure what the deal is here with all the black pilling. It's not difficult to get a digital visa if you want to go and check it out yourself next spring. You have six to eight months to acquire some basic Russian. Not an easy language, but very beautiful and well worth the effort.

By the way, no Westerner going to Russia will be drafted. If you really believe that, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you 😂
I am seriously considering making the move, I am building up my Russian language skills, but it's difficult. I am an American Orthodox convert. Which cities in Russia did you visit? Do the women under 30 know some English, how bad is the language barrier? How accepted are age gap relationships? (mid 30's man with 18-24 woman)
 
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