But the fact that not all the Church Fathers are in agreement over this shows why Holy Tradition fails, and why we should allow the Bible to be it's own interpreter. It's all there in the context.
So God is unwilling but He's willing. Incoherent.
Amen, see, welcome to Reformed theology!
Your reading of verse 9 would make it contradict with verse 7. Verse 9 comes after verse 7, and should be read in that context.
OK, but then I can cross reference to the Gospel of John where Jesus says that He does not pray for the world, but for those whom the Father gave Him. Or that He dies for the sheep, and not all are His sheep.
And of course that goes both ways as well, as I can bring in Church Fathers who recognized that God set His saving grace on the Church in particular.
If you die in your sin, will God sentence you to Hell, yes or no?
More so to the first part of his statement, that God has a purpose in creating us, even when He recognizes that we will misuse our will and warrant Hell as a result. Obviously, I don't grant that the will is free from the stain and influence of sin.
Hebrews 9:28: so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.
The "Protestant vs Orthodox" dialectic is what's causing many here to miss the Biblical truth that Christ actually bore our sins and died in our place to save us from condemnation.
I'm telling you, if you look into his sources the picture you get will be very different. The two that I took the time to check him on was the Canon of Scripture and PSA. When he bluffs his way through these topics, his discord club is not so much there for whether the claims are historical or not, but they are more there for the entertainment.
He's a deacon, yes. But I mean he's also had Metropolitan Jonah on his channel. He also says he has the blessing of his parish priest which I don't have a reason to doubt.
What do you mean by not that long ago? Has she done tarot readings post her entry into the Church? The Church is full of people who previously dabbled in such things. The question is what do they now believe and advocate for? Every indication I've seen is that she rejects that type of stuff and discourages people from it. Maybe you know something I don't. Otherwise it's a pretty cheap statement. Like me saying Brother Augustine shouldn't be trusted because he's Jewish by blood and was recently a mason.
By not that long ago, I mean a few short years ago. If she stopped doing witchcraft after joining the Orthodox Church then that's good. I was under the impression she and Dyer were members for longer than that.
I'm pretty sure neither have dabbled in anything like tarot cards since joining the Church. The point I was making was that it's a stretch to say that Jay doesn't name the Jew because his wife dabbled in tarot cards before joining the Church. Correct me if I'm misinterpreting what you said, but that seemed to be the implication. It's also worth pointing out that Jay is anti-zionist in terms of his geo-political views, he doesn't have a philo-Jewish stance at all. There's a difference between leaving some things unsaid in order not to be deplatformed prematurely and deliberately misleading people.
No I would not put a reptentant child molester in charge of day care. However where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more. Many of the most holy and zealous men and women are those that wandered very far from God. And in many cases they are the ones that suffered to the point that they cared enough about the truth to take on the most thankless missionary work. There are countless examples of those that came to the Church after dabbling in the occult. Neophytes should not rush into teaching others but also neither should they leave their gifts undeveloped and be excluded from ever teaching because of what they once were. Jay without doubt has certain talents that others don't have and has been the spark that brought many people into the Church. I don't like every aspect of the way he goes about things and he's scandalised people on multiple occasions so it is a double-edged sword. Ultimately since you so strongly disagree with his theology you're not going see as much positive in his activities as I do. However what he teaches is not un-Orthodox. I'm not sure why you think the Orthodox Church is "letting him get away with it". The Orthodox that want to silence him are usually the liberal types that don't actually believe Church dogma and want to conform to the world.
