I'm slightly triggered by it as well and the reason is that some of us have spent years learning about and working with various sciences and technology so it is almost personal when the whole thing is attacked.
'psychology' is a pseudoscience but other sciences like Newtonian physics and nuclear physics are well established hard sciences. Of course the nuclear one is newer and with more unknowns still but not to the extent that nuclear power or bombs don't exist.
From mysids I have a slightly different relationship to this subject.
My Dad was present as a young serviceman at the British nuclear tests in the Pacific - he talked about it a few times with me during his life.
In terms of the Truth and What is Objectively True it raised a couple of small issues to me regarding - what I believe to be the truth based on received information and how much our view of the world / our cosmology changes depending on the information we get.
During my dad's lifetime there was an ongoing campaign on behalf of BNTVA or British Nuclear Test Veterans Association who are campaigning and I quote from their literature:
"Imagine waking up every morning wondering if your government has intentionally exposed you to lethal radiation, and is lying to you about it.
That living nightmare is the daily reality for thousands of nuclear testing veterans and their families - 70 years on.
Now, they have one last chance to sue the Government for the toxic legacy of trauma and illness they have been left to endure."
The London Daily Telegraph writes:
"Councillor Alan Dowson was just 19 when he witnessed most people’s worst nightmare – a nuclear explosion. the now 84-year-old closes his eyes and takes us back to that day: April 22, 1958.
“When the blast went off, you saw all your bones in your hands,” he recalls. “The X-rays ran through your body.”
This was Operation Grapple – an H-bomb detonation which was part of the UK’s atomic weapons testing programme. The awestruck 19-year-old had just seen for himself an H-bomb airdrop with an explosive yield of around three megatonnes"
My Dad's attitude was that the test never affected him badly either physically or mentally and he thought that the people who contacted him about joining their civil suit were more likely trying to milk the system.
He was part of the British auxiliary forces and had served the UK in other theatres and was far more affected by coming under heavy fire than by witnessing a nuclear explosion from several miles away.
Quotes like: "
“When the blast went off, you saw all your bones in your hands, The X-rays ran through your body.”
and the guy in this video describing the very same tests that my father described to me but as:
"it was like sitting, in the centre of the sun.." mean that I view what they are claiming a little askance.
My dad developed skin cancers in later life but then, so have I, and Ive never been near a nuclear test. He never had any other kind of relatable sickness.
When I was at a left wing university and jewish reform left types, who didn't have it in them to actually make it big in things like the media or finance, came around banging this drum with lots of leaflets and speeches I found my self slowly edging to the back of the crowd, struggling to believe all that they claimed.
One thing my dad did say to me was that he understood that the Generals and Air Marshals had demanded that a plane be flown right through the mushroom cloud. He said he didn't know their fate but that he felt bad for the pilots.
I actually met an ex forces guy after my dad died and discussed it with him, as he had been involved in some ways in those tests.
I mentioned the fate of the pilots and he had said "oh yes, I know the man you mean!" and he proceeded to tell me that one pilot had worn or transported a Geiger counter on his hip that had been flown through the mushroom cloud.
"Now he was fine, but where that Geiger counter had been on his hip he developed a massive tumour that had to be cut out, but other than that, right as rain."
"So.. he was fine?"
"Yes!"
"But he had a huge tumour, shaped like a Geiger counter, on his hip"
"Got that cut out, absolutely fine!"
"Apart from the huge tumour that had to be cut out?"
"Yes..!" he was an old gent and he and his lovely elderly wife both sat there, smiling at me, and I could see their point but also thought to myself "I wonder what the whole entire story with that plane and those pilots was?" Maybe it didn't run to much more than this old gent had just told me but.. there seemed to be a few loose ends that hadn't been tied off.
Just a personal tale about brushes with large scale nuclear explosions and how much word of mouth can effect one's reading of history.
A mate of mine's sister supposedly got Gulf War Syndrome from all those crazy drugs they injected British troops with in Gulf War One. But then she had her own issues, sometimes its hard to tell what is the alleged effect of military participation and what is verifiable fact.
If you watch some US military veteran shows they run adverts **guaranteeing** that they can get US veterans disability ratings and payouts massively enhanced. There's a whole indutry around these things.
I think the need to question things is important and it is amazing what turns up for those who go out looking for answers.
Not necessarily on nuclear weapons but on so many other recent historical subjects like Gulf War One for example.
@Vas Incrementum you mention the dangers of the likes of David Icke and exaggerating the "truth" and "lies" in all sorts of different directions.
I actually wrote a lengthy post about David Icke recently on the old RVF forum. I went into my belief that he is a high level freemason, always has been a freemason and a pawn of the UK govt (much like Tommy Robinson) and got lots of positive feedback and DMs saying that the post was interesting.
I also got yet another warning for my "low quality post" - go figure.
Icke is a dangerous man precisely for the reason that TPTB are constantly putting their hand on the scales of truth - for norms that trust the mainstream media, AND for truth-seekers that are searching and thus liable to the predations of establishment goons like Icke, who prey on their disillusionment.
