Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

I think he's testing how bad the response will be on Truth. When he gets ratioed like he did with the vaccines he will back off the regime change talk.

That's my hope at least.
Deep down Trump doesn't want this war. That speech last night seemed very forced, Trump did not look confident at all. He and all three of his henchmen had anxious expressions on their faces. Kind of like the three astronauts in the 60s after they came back from "the moon".

But I think the Jews have something big on him. And very likely dirt on the rest of his family. Unless Trump is willing to sacrifice, he has no choice but to do their bidding and escalate. Whatever they have, it's big enough to overcome his concern about his public image and legacy.
 
Don't think so, considering Russia-Israel relations. But North Korea doesn't recognize Israel. Same for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Pakistani leadership is two faced just like the rest of the Muslim world. In front of the cameras they act belligerent and in line with the populace's general perception, when the recording light gets turned off the mood changes immediately. FYI, the US B2 Fordow strike left Iran in part flying over Pakistani territory, there is a lot of US recon and intel gathering on Iran happening from covert US bases in Pakistan, and the Pakistan-Iran border has been closed on US orders.

The US Pakistan relation is about to get a new dimension. Pakistan is broker than broke hence Field Marshal Asim Munir went for a 5 day visit to DC, where he got to hang with Donny and the gang. Looking for investment and cooperation. Munir calls all the shots in Pakistan for what it's worth, civilian government is controlled by the junta which in turn is led by Asim Munir.

Trump and Munir discussed big topics even though much of it was behind closed doors. This is mostly due to Munir's de jure non government status as he officially doesn't have a position in the Pakistani civilian government. Details will come out soon.

Alarm bells have been going off in Beijing and New Delhi non stop. And Tehran too probably, if the electricity is on at least. Per Pakistani Federal Minister Qaisar Ahmed Shaikh, Munir is in DC to negotiate yet another US manufactured mineral deal, this time concerning Baluchistan. Likewise there are strong rumours about a deal on formalizing US presence in Pakistani Airbases, in particular Nur Khan Airbase and Jacobabad Air Base. Chinese MSS is raising red flags, Indian sources have been claiming US presence in and around several of Pakistan's (nuclear) ABs for years.

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Judging by the mutually flattering language Munir's visir was a success, Munir even nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize Award due to his efforts on negotiating peace between Pakistan and India back in May. Smart move, that ego is gigantic and needs constant attention.
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Some interesting info on the assassination on Iranian Chief of Staff Bagheri, in which Pakistan could have had a hand. Bagheri and Munir met days before the Israeli attack. Article asserts Bagheri was handed a watch as a gift, the watch was rigged and contained a tracker. 4 days later Bagheri and the rest of the IRGC leadership got capped.

www.financialexpress.com/world-news/did-pak-army-chief-asim-munir-leak-iran-military-commander-baqeris-location-to-israel-report-says/3888151/lite/
 
You know, there is a strong contingent in Turkey that considers the atomic weapons that the United States keeps under our control there to be their nuclear weapons as well...

Incirlik AB has seen a decrease in activity with most of the nuclear ordnance allegedly shipped of to Souda Base, Crete years ago. It's part of an adaptation in US/NATO policy due to shifts in geostrategic realities and concerns over Turkish duplicity.

Despite superficial differences Turkish and US macro views so far overlap on basically every issue. Hence why Turkey and the US are nearly always on the same side, see Syria, Iraq, Libya, Nagorno Karabakh, Ukraine, Somalia and before that Chechnya, Bosnia, Kosovo etc.

Turkey is currently acting in a supportive role, as expected quiet as a church mouse about the massive US reliance on its infrastructure. Most of the US intel gathering on Iran's Western flank is conducted from Turkish bases, most notably Konya AB which houses many airborne US intel gathering assets, and Kurecik radarbase. The US daily flies AWACS sorties from Konya AB up to the Turkish-Iranian border, Kurecik is one of the US main stations used for early detection and estimated trajectory of Iranian ballistics. These bases are much more relevant than al Udeid or the ones Bahrain or Saudi Arabia.

If the Iranian position deteriorates further Turkey become more open and assertive. On the condition that things actually reach that point. Turkey will focus on the Iranian Azeris. The Azeri-Turkey tandem has long been meddling in Iran's Turkic Northwest, trying to position themselves as the guarantors and benefactors of the Azeri minority in Iran. Aliyev especially is an Azeri irredentist who near weekly barks about Azerbaijan's flawed borders. Aka historical Soviet injustices, random and faulty borders in the FSU, and oppression of Azeri minority in Iran. The term 'Whole Azerbaijan' has become common since Nagorno Karabakh was concluded.

Obviously this open interference did not go down well with the ayatollahs. Pezeshkian is Azeri, Khamenei a half Azeri and so many other Iranian bigwigs so one could ask the question how much protection Azeris need anyway. The Islamic Republic is not Persian centric and instead adheres to Twelver Shia Khomeinism, a religion that was brought to Iran in the 17th century by the Turkic Qizilbash/ Red hats and was later expanded by the Turkic Safavids into Central Asia and the Arab World, before Iran became Shia many Turkic dynasties like the Qara Qoyunlu ruled Iran.

The next stage will be indicated by a change in rhetorics, the big giveaway will be a sudden distinction between 'South Azerbaijan and' North Azerbaijan'/ The Republic of Azerbaijan. If Aliyev and Erdo suddenly start talking about the plight of the South Azeris you know it's on.

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