Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

[analyst_green]

I think he's testing how bad the response will be on Truth. When he gets ratioed like he did with the vaccines he will back off the regime change talk.

That's my hope at least.

Deep down Trump doesn't want this war. That speech last night seemed very forced, Trump did not look confident at all. He and all three of his henchmen had anxious expressions on their faces. Kind of like the three astronauts in the 60s after they came back from "the moon".

But I think the Jews have something big on him. And very likely dirt on the rest of his family. Unless Trump is willing to sacrifice, he has no choice but to do their bidding and escalate. Whatever they have, it's big enough to overcome his concern about his public image and legacy.

 

[expectation]

 

[expectation]

Rubio (the most incompetent) is asking China to talk with iranians no to close the strait. I think Qatar also needs to have the strait open.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-urges-china-dissuade-iran-closing-strait-hormuz-2025-06-22/

Bombs Iran and then ask another country to fix it. Clown Diplomacy.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Don't think so, considering Russia-Israel relations. But North Korea doesn't recognize Israel. Same for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Pakistani leadership is two faced just like the rest of the Muslim world. In front of the cameras they act belligerent and in line with the populace's general perception, when the recording light gets turned off the mood changes immediately. FYI, the US B2 Fordow strike left Iran in part flying over Pakistani territory, there is a lot of US recon and intel gathering on Iran happening from covert US bases in Pakistan, and the Pakistan-Iran border has been closed on US orders.

The US Pakistan relation is about to get a new dimension. Pakistan is broker than broke hence Field Marshal Asim Munir went for a 5 day visit to DC, where he got to hang with Donny and the gang. Looking for investment and cooperation. Munir calls all the shots in Pakistan for what it's worth, civilian government is controlled by the junta which in turn is led by Asim Munir.

Trump and Munir discussed big topics even though much of it was behind closed doors. This is mostly due to Munir's de jure non government status as he officially doesn't have a position in the Pakistani civilian government. Details will come out soon.

Alarm bells have been going off in Beijing and New Delhi non stop. And Tehran too probably, if the electricity is on at least. Per Pakistani Federal Minister Qaisar Ahmed Shaikh, Munir is in DC to negotiate yet another US manufactured mineral deal, this time concerning Baluchistan. Likewise there are strong rumours about a deal on formalizing US presence in Pakistani Airbases, in particular Nur Khan Airbase and Jacobabad Air Base. Chinese MSS is raising red flags, Indian sources have been claiming US presence in and around several of Pakistan's (nuclear) ABs for years.





Judging by the mutually flattering language Munir's visir was a success, Munir even nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize Award due to his efforts on negotiating peace between Pakistan and India back in May. Smart move, that ego is gigantic and needs constant attention.


Some interesting info on the assassination on Iranian Chief of Staff Bagheri, in which Pakistan could have had a hand. Bagheri and Munir met days before the Israeli attack. Article asserts Bagheri was handed a watch as a gift, the watch was rigged and contained a tracker. 4 days later Bagheri and the rest of the IRGC leadership got capped.

www.financialexpress.com/world-news/did-pak-army-chief-asim-munir-leak-iran-military-commander-baqeris-location-to-israel-report-says/3888151/lite/

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

You know, there is a strong contingent in Turkey that considers the atomic weapons that the United States keeps under our control there to be their nuclear weapons as well...

Incirlik AB has seen a decrease in activity with most of the nuclear ordnance allegedly shipped of to Souda Base, Crete years ago. It's part of an adaptation in US/NATO policy due to shifts in geostrategic realities and concerns over Turkish duplicity.

Despite superficial differences Turkish and US macro views so far overlap on basically every issue. Hence why Turkey and the US are nearly always on the same side, see Syria, Iraq, Libya, Nagorno Karabakh, Ukraine, Somalia and before that Chechnya, Bosnia, Kosovo etc.

Turkey is currently acting in a supportive role, as expected quiet as a church mouse about the massive US reliance on its infrastructure. Most of the US intel gathering on Iran's Western flank is conducted from Turkish bases, most notably Konya AB which houses many airborne US intel gathering assets, and Kurecik radarbase. The US daily flies AWACS sorties from Konya AB up to the Turkish-Iranian border, Kurecik is one of the US main stations used for early detection and estimated trajectory of Iranian ballistics. These bases are much more relevant than al Udeid or the ones Bahrain or Saudi Arabia.

If the Iranian position deteriorates further Turkey become more open and assertive. On the condition that things actually reach that point. Turkey will focus on the Iranian Azeris. The Azeri-Turkey tandem has long been meddling in Iran's Turkic Northwest, trying to position themselves as the guarantors and benefactors of the Azeri minority in Iran. Aliyev especially is an Azeri irredentist who near weekly barks about Azerbaijan's flawed borders. Aka historical Soviet injustices, random and faulty borders in the FSU, and oppression of Azeri minority in Iran. The term 'Whole Azerbaijan' has become common since Nagorno Karabakh was concluded.

Obviously this open interference did not go down well with the ayatollahs. Pezeshkian is Azeri, Khamenei a half Azeri and so many other Iranian bigwigs so one could ask the question how much protection Azeris need anyway. The Islamic Republic is not Persian centric and instead adheres to Twelver Shia Khomeinism, a religion that was brought to Iran in the 17th century by the Turkic Qizilbash/ Red hats and was later expanded by the Turkic Safavids into Central Asia and the Arab World, before Iran became Shia many Turkic dynasties like the Qara Qoyunlu ruled Iran.

The next stage will be indicated by a change in rhetorics, the big giveaway will be a sudden distinction between 'South Azerbaijan and' North Azerbaijan'/ The Republic of Azerbaijan. If Aliyev and Erdo suddenly start talking about the plight of the South Azeris you know it's on.

 

[magoo]

This looks like its the istaeli biggest weekly newspaper:

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The problem with reading jewish newspaper covers is they are in hebrew. Anyway I subscribed to their newsletter. Normally english versions are watered down.

From reading it seems like Israel will end the war soon. But it’s jews so. They will refocus on Gaza. Hopefully it’s true.

Checked flights to dubai in winter and they are a bargain. Dubai and Abu Dhabi are great for children. They have a lot of amusement parks.

I think the successor of khomeini is being negotiated. Doubt it will be the sha. A compromise between the powers of UNI, China Russia and EU.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Red meat for the low brow Westoid Kremlin simps, starving for a scrap of good news as they are. Medvedev is playing the role of tipsy looselipped conspiracy oriented uncle to a T, grade A for the troll job whipping the gullible into a frenzy yet again. Legit can't even blame the man for dragging on that abusive relationship, pure wifebeater alphachad mentality, the Kremlin simps just keep coming back anyway no matter how much he lies, deceives and manipulates so why not turn it up a notch.

The Kremlin loves Twitter and M's clowning so much that it throttles the platform periodically ergo makes it barely usable in Russia itself, with an increasing number of VPN providers blocked. Wonder why that is and what it means. Russian speaking anons report that Medvedev's latest brainfart is barely mentioned in the Russian media bytheway, totally not sus.


Medvedev whenever he isn't trollmaxxing his westoid groupie base.


Meanwhile in the real world Putin just elaborated on why Russia ain't backing Iran. Yesterday at the SPIEF. Wait for it: because Russia and Israel are respected friends, and there are over 2 million Russian speakers in Israel (about 1 million of which are Russian citizens).

Straight from the horses mouth, and he only says philosemetic stuff like this twice a month so you really couldn't have seen this coming from miles away. Man has played his role perfectly.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Before and after satellite pictures of the Fordow facility.

 

[magoo]

US embassy in Qatar tells American citizens that they should shelter in place until further notice.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-embassy-in-qatar-tells-american-citizens-to-shelter-in-place/

Finnish airlines Finair suspends it's flights to Qatar until next week

UK Foreign Office issues travel warning for Kuwait, Qatar and UAE

 

[Samseau]

Red meat for the low brow Westoid Kremlin simps, starving for a scrap of good news as they are. Medvedev is playing the role of tipsy looselipped conspiracy oriented uncle to a T, grade A for the troll job whipping the gullible into a frenzy yet again. Legit can't even blame the man for dragging on that abusive relationship, pure wifebeater alphachad mentality, the Kremlin simps just keep coming back anyway no matter how much he lies, deceives and manipulates so why not turn it up a notch.

North Korea could easily supply Iran with nukes. It would be with China's blessing of course, but Medvedev isn't posting things totally out of the range of possibility.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

 

[PurpleUrkel]

But I think the Jews have something big on him. And very likely dirt on the rest of his family.

This has always been the case. It is becoming clear(er) that (((forces))) choose the President of the United States (not voters) and that Trump has been installed and uninstalled as President on three occasions now in order to serve (((Their))) purposes and agenda(s). Nobody can amass as much wealth, fame, and power as Trump and his family have in this lifetime without hurting others and without being beholden to (((others))). For every action, there is an equal yet opposite reaction. Just the fact that he and Ivanka have no ethics with regards to manufacturing their chemical laden clothing with barely paid slave labor in China is telling enough. But jews gotta' jew. Money is the altar at which (((they))) worship. They have no problem with shipping American Christian textile jobs overseas and getting in bed with Antichrist commie China to make cheap, inferior products that literally fall apart at the seams as long as it makes them an extra buck or two.

I also think that Elon's "Trump was involved with Epstein" claim that he walked back and has since been memory holed and swept under the JQ rug is disturbing, yet telling. I mean, who would make such a personally dangerous claim against such a popular and powerful man on the world stage for everyone to hear if it were not true? Seems like a good way to get yourself whacked. Trump admits to knowing Epstein and there are actual pictures of Trump with Epstein surrounded by hot young women who are out of their league but again, the JQ psyop game of "Don't believe your lying eyes" is in full effect.

Again, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Bombs Iran and then ask another country to fix it. Clown Diplomacy.

Just a shared interest and concern between two global competitors, or, depending on the circumstances adversaries or partners. Nothing to get worked up on about.

 

[Cooper]

Red meat for the low brow Westoid Kremlin simps, starving for a scrap of good news as they are. Medvedev is playing the role of tipsy looselipped conspiracy oriented uncle to a T, grade A for the troll job whipping the gullible into a frenzy yet again. Legit can't even blame the man for dragging on that abusive relationship, pure wifebeater alphachad mentality, the Kremlin simps just keep coming back anyway no matter how much he lies, deceives and manipulates so why not turn it up a notch.

The Kremlin loves Twitter and M's clowning so much that it throttles the platform periodically ergo makes it barely usable in Russia itself, with an increasing number of VPN providers blocked. Wonder why that is and what it means. Russian speaking anons report that Medvedev's latest brainfart is barely mentioned in the Russian media bytheway, totally not sus.


Medvedev whenever he isn't trollmaxxing his westoid groupie base.
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Meanwhile in the real world Putin just elaborated on why Russia ain't backing Iran. Yesterday at the SPIEF. Wait for it: because Russia and Israel are respected friends, and there are over 2 million Russian speakers in Israel (about 1 million of which are Russian citizens).

Straight from the horses mouth, and he only says philosemetic stuff like this twice a month so you really couldn't have seen this coming from miles away. Man has played his role perfectly.

You talk about "simps", while posting graphs "verified by media sources" that show that Israel is blocking "80-90 percent" of Iranian missiles... OK.

The main premise here of Putin being Bibi's b**** is wrong, going against Russian basic interests, as Russia cannot afford to have Iran fall like Syria, their southern flank would become completely exposed with NATO extending to Armenia/Azerbaijan, potentially even worse than the Ukraine problem. Common sense. This is also explained pretty well by Stanislas Krapivnik, time stamp bookmarked below, his takes are pretty balanced:



Medvedev plays bad cop online, that is understood, but his statements on subjects like Ukraine or Iran, while often over the top, do reflect the maximalist Russian positions. Twitter/X is also the platform for other Russian officials like Zakharova.

 

[KulturedKaveman]

Just Israelis? I don´t trust a single word coming out of a politician mouth. They are all dirty rotten scum. Nobody should. When they negate something it´s because they are planning on doing it.

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!

truthsocial.com

"It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

Yep it seems there will be boots on the ground. Time to serve steak again to the military. The US will lose.

It seems the son of the Sha is friends with Trump. By friends he bought Trump.

A 4 chan user posted this:

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Everybody likes americans. Everybody hates Israelis. Why do americans keep associating with scum?

What will come after the fall of the US empire? A dominance of greater Israel and China? This is nightmare.

uh, MJ12, like the majestic 12, Majic Eyes Only? How would this pop off a civil war?

 

[FrostBITE]

And once they send their lapdog Trump to do the same, how is Iran supposed to trust him?

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has accused the U.S. of being involved “from day one” in Israel’s attacks on Iran.

The U.S. sought to distance itself from Israel’s initial attack on Iran nine days ago, with Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying it was “not involved” in the attack.

But speaking on the sidelines of a meeting of the Council of Foreign Ministers of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in Istanbul, Araghchi said it the U.S. had been involved from the beginning. In addition, Araghchi suggested in an interview with NBC News last night that the U.S. had used the weeks of negotiations preceding Israel's strikes as "cover" for the attacks.

The Americans “deny it,” he said, but “we have many indications that they have been involved from day one.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/israel-iran-conflict-rcna214241

 

[magoo]

uh, MJ12, like the majestic 12, Majic Eyes Only? How would this pop off a civil war?

Always take what the schizos in 4chan write with a pinch of salt. A lot of salt actually. But sometimes they end up being right. And it´s just more info to acknowledge. Would give a 2 out of 10 on the future accuracy of that prediction. Even though some elements might be useful. Use parts of it. I googled MJ12 and saw a wikipedia page about it. Read the first two lines and dismissed it. It´s something related to space.

 

[Giordano Bruno]

Yep it seems there will be boots on the ground. Time to serve steak again to the military. The US will lose.

It seems the son of the Sha is friends with Trump. By friends he bought Trump.

A 4 chan user posted this:

You really think Trump can start a war?

Even if wanted to, America has never been more more anti-Israel today.

Most of his influence is from people who are tired of wasting money, tired of neverending wars.

If he tries to help Israel, those on the left that support Palestine, and us on the right that despise the anti-Christian discrimination of both will be on the same side, however briefly.

Trump is either bluffing, being lied to by his own team or he's letting that spiritual leader 'lead' him by the nose.

 

[magoo]

You really think Trump can start a war?

Yes. He already started one didn´t he?

Even if wanted to, America has never been more more anti-Israel today.

It changes fast.

Most of his influence is from people who are tired of wasting money, tired of neverending wars.

You mean the ones who stood in the cold and rain watching people collapse and still took an experimental drug?

If he tries to help Israel, those on the left that support Palestine, and us on the right that despise the anti-Christian discrimination of both will be on the same side, however briefly.

With the right false flag they won´t.

Trump is either bluffing, being lied to by his own team or he's letting that spiritual leader 'lead' him by the nose.

Lead. Trump is cashing in. They gave him a script and said here is your check now read. I don´t think the 2016 Trump was dirty. But that naive Trump realized the swamp is too big and powerful. He caved and cashed the check. The idea one man alone can turn things around is stupid. He makes an order a judge blocks it. The officer doesn´t execute and then what?

 

[magoo]

Official denial from Qatar. So it´s true. There´s "iranian" threats in Qatar.



Chinese are also urging their citizens for caution in Qatar. Basically stay in house.

Trump is panicking with oil prices. Moron. They might close the strait. My second prediction was recession in or until 2026 (not mine). Bombing one of the biggest oil exporter is always a brilliant idea donny. He lost control with tariffs. If he ever had any. And now he is elite bitch.