Hitler versus Rothschild: the Logistics and Background of World War Two

[Samseau]

Hitler was no megalomaniac cult leader as the usual lies claim. He was the figurehead of a cause that millions across Europe and beyond voluntarily embraced to defend their homelands and resist Bolshevik tyranny. The Waffen-SS alone drew hundreds of thousands from many nations even winning the loyalty of entire Soviet units who defected to fight under Germay's banner.

Meanwhile the Allies relied heavily on forced conscription drafting tens of millions of unwilling men into a war they neither wanted nor understood. The American draft alone pulled over 10 million young men into a conflict manufactured by FDR’s warmongering agenda.

British troops fought under warmongering alcoholic Churchill whose reckless bloodlust drove millions of young men into needless carnage to serve imperial ambitions only to lose it all. Soviet soldiers were expendable cannon fodder for Stalin’s brutal regime where human life meant nothing and millions were sacrificed in endless “meat grinder” offensives, following the grim logic of “we have more bodies than they have bullets.” No one would take an "oath" to Stalin because no one wanted to, he had zero personality or charm and inspired nobody.

This is the real difference. A majority of the Axis soldiers fought as free men by choice united by conviction and identity. Allied soldiers were slaves to their governments’ ambitions swept up in a war driven by propaganda and manipulation.

So when you hear the tired claims about Hitler’s “personality cult” or “lack of vision,” remember those are excuses from people who can’t explain without lying how millions freely rallied behind him while the Allies resorted to coercion and control. The Axis cause was powerfully real, unlike the manufactured loyalty on the other side

Except that Hitler and other Axis powers did institute drafts and did force men to fight. See the story posted earlier in this thread of the Catholic man who was executed for refusing to take the Hitler oath. He agreed to fight but not take the oath and was executed.

So the historical evidence directly contradicts your claims. Meanwhile Americans were signing up by the millions because of Pearl Harbor, Japan was completely retarded. FDR's brainwashing was only successful because Japan took the bait.

Hitler worshippers simply can't learn from mistakes, which is why White nationalism has no future. The adherents have no imagination, no ability to analyze or strategize. It's amazing the lengths ideologues will defend losers. It's worse than communism, at least communism produced a few countries which survived like China.

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Says the hypocrite who rides on Christianity yet never discusses it. 0 posts from you in the Christian section.

 

[Samseau]

Hitler was dismissive of the USA, prior to WW2 for many reasons, though he does point out what a joke "democracy" was back then, the same as it is today. The "democracy" of the USA in the 1930's is the same as today. Controlled by Wall Street, and both candidates are puppets, so it doesn't matter who wins, Wall Street still wins.

He was dismissive of the USA, because the same communist bankers he defeated already completely controlled the USA, complete with their puppet FDR. That Americans just did as told, suffered through a depression despite having unlimited resources, while Germany prospered. The USA govt. was then using its wealth, which there was little due to the depression, to build up Stalin's military in a plan to attack Germany. While USA tax money was being wasted to kill millions of innocent Christians all across Eastern Europe and thousands of churches were being burned down, Hitler reached out to England, France and the USA for peaceful negations to take on Stalin.

The fact the USA helped build up the USSR, while the USSR was killing millions of Christians and burning down churches is enough to make any reasonable Christian untrusting of the Americans and the reason many German soldiers referred to the USA troops as "Godless Americans".

The propaganda machine was in full effect and it was powerful, but Hitler played into that frame by attacking America in his speeches and writings. Far better ways he could have handled it without giving the enemy ammo.

Back in the 1930's most Americans were simply uneducated and had no idea what was going on, either in the USSR or Germany. When dealing with ignorance perception is everything and keeping the public out of your business is always the best approach. Hitler also had great chances to win over the people of America as well:

That's in 1933, he was getting plenty of positive press in America.

Hitler's mistake was not in respecting the satanic USA, it was in not waiting to go to war until their technology was so advanced that they could not be defeated. Had they waited a year or two and advanced what they were working on, they likely would have won the war. Hitler admitted this mistake to Von Braun in their last communication.

Which is what I've said from the start of this thread, that Hitler was an idiot who could have easily won had he taken the slow route to victory instead of foolish all or nothing gambits. Germany had so many advantages it's incredible that they lost, takes talent to lose with such advantages.

Like I said at the start of this thread, Hitler just needed to tech up, let the USSR spend itself attacking Poland, playing the diplomatic game with France and England, and then making his move. By attacking first he turned American opinion against him which caused Germany to lose the war.

Had Germany waited until, say, even 1942 to fight back:

- Stronger military tech.
- Better diplomatic position because the USSR would have been the aggressor against Poland.
- A dying FDR and more sympathetic America.

-1933 Germany faced a jewish-led global boycott before Hitler did anything (march 23-24).

-1934 Hollywood (run by jews Mayer, Goldwyn, Warner) was pumping out anti-German films like The House of Rothschild. Germany formally protested the US laughed it off.

-1936 FDR's re-election campaign openly cast Hitler as a global menace before any hostilities before Anschluss or Poland.-FDR’s inner circle (Morgenthau, Frankfurter, Baruch, Brandeis) were fanatically anti-German. Hitler still held back, he kept a neutral tone on America until late 1941.

-The US refused fair trade. Germany offered barter arrangements to avoid Wall Street debt traps; Cordell Hull and FDR’s clique slammed the door.

-FDR never replaced Ambassador William Dodd after he left Berlin in 1937. That’s a diplomatic snub of the highest order basically saying, "You’re not a legitimate government."

-Then in the 1937 Chicago “Quarantine” speech, Roosevelt called Hitler a gangster years before war. Not provoked, just hostile.

None of these points really change anything. FDR was a Talmud puppet, but the American people were not.

Hitler was elected for life, and could have easily outlasted FDR whose health was declining fast.

Germany still could have accessed resources America had through 3rd parties like Spain, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and even Italy, which is difficult to believe but apparently true.

See the neutrality acts:

Neutrality Acts of the 1930s - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Even as late as 1939 Senators were talking about how Germany could just buy through Italy:

An "outstanding Republican leader" who supported helping nations under attack, however, told H. V. Kaltenborn that the embargo was futile because a neutral country like Italy could buy from the US and sell its own weapons to Germany, while US companies would relocate factories to Canada.

The idea that Germany was being choked out and needed war is just White Nationalist propaganda with no basis in reality.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

The propaganda machine was in full effect and it was powerful, but Hitler played into that frame by attacking America in his speeches and writings. Far better ways he could have handled it without giving the enemy ammo.

Back in the 1930's most Americans were simply uneducated and had no idea what was going on, either in the USSR or Germany. When dealing with ignorance perception is everything and keeping the public out of your business is always the best approach. Hitler also had great chances to win over the people of America as well:

That's in 1933, he was getting plenty of positive press in America.



Which is what I've said from the start of this thread, that Hitler was an idiot who could have easily won had he taken the slow route to victory instead of foolish all or nothing gambits. Germany had so many advantages it's incredible that they lost, takes talent to lose with such advantages.

Like I said at the start of this thread, Hitler just needed to tech up, let the USSR spend itself attacking Poland, playing the diplomatic game with France and England, and then making his move. By attacking first he turned American opinion against him which caused Germany to lose the war.

Had Germany waited until, say, even 1942 to fight back:

- Stronger military tech.
- Better diplomatic position because the USSR would have been the aggressor against Poland.
- A dying FDR and more sympathetic America.



None of these points really change anything. FDR was a Talmud puppet, but the American people were not.

Hitler was elected for life, and could have easily outlasted FDR whose health was declining fast.

Germany still could have accessed resources America had through 3rd parties like Spain, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and even Italy, which is difficult to believe but apparently true.

See the neutrality acts:

Neutrality Acts of the 1930s - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Even as late as 1939 Senators were talking about how Germany could just buy through Italy:



The idea that Germany was being choked out and needed war is just White Nationalist propaganda with no basis in reality.

I think we mostly agree then. But the USA was firmly in the hands of the satanic elites and the people in the USA had no real means to get real news or information out of Europe, it was all filtered through the main stream media. So much so that Father Coughlin was taken off air, despite being the most popular radio show in the USA, because he opposed the USA getting involved in war in Europe.

The USA was going to be involved and Hitler should have foreseen this and waited longer. Granted, what little I have read of him, he thought the German volk could fight through about anything, if pushed hard enough. Not many men have the fight in them that he had and he miscalculated this and cost a chance at winning the war. Pride, a lesson for us all to learn.

But the USA was not going to support Germany, the people here didn't know. Heck, what percent of Americans today still think satanic third world immigration, LGBTQ being taught to 5-year-olds, and anti-White/anti-family policies are "good things"? Probably nearly 50% and that is with the internet to allow us to actually get truthful information.

 

[Australia Sucks]

So much bloviating on this thread about Hitler. The dude lost. That is the most important point that negates all other potential positives about Hitler. He lost the war and millions of Germans died. End of story.

 

[Blade Runner]

Has anyone seen the Jack Kruse interview with Robert Breedlove? Amazing stuff, even if all the details or speculation isn't exactly right.

 

[ginsu]

@Australia Sucks yours and others argument boils down to two things:

Hitler lost. 2. Therefore nothing good can be learned from the NS period.
This is postwar liberal moralism that masquerades as analysis. Samseau cannot win a battle of details so he avoids them or just cites wikipedia articles permitted by his talmuds like a normie who is too lazy to look for the truth.

Germany instituted most conscription in 1943 when manpower became desperate but in 1939–1942 the Waffen-SS had hundreds of thousands of foreign volunteers from over 30 nations many of whom had no German blood. Every last one of Spain's Axis fighters were volunteers. They weren’t conscripted or tricked. These men were ideologically motivated, which is not the insult Samseau thinks it is. The Allies never had anything like that. Their fiat money systems survived, but the ideology of Hitler will outlive all their systems even if it was just 1 man who believed in it and not the millions that still do.

The claim that Americans “rushed to sign up” ignores reality. 10.1 million men were conscripted and most of them teenagers. Just read their letters. Half didn’t even know what Europe had to do with them. They didn’t join to fight ‘evil’ they joined because they had no choice. The number of people who were conscripted on the Allied behalf per capita far outweighs those conscripted on the Axis side.

Read the earlier posts where MFTP clearly provided details on Jagerstatter who was executed not for refusing to fight or refusing to "swear an oath" but for encouraging military sedition under wartime law. One man’s emotional post-war "martyrdom" doesn’t prove an entire military system was coercive. But it does reveal how little an uneducated anti-Hitler agitator knows if they think Jagerstatter is some universal example.

Here’s the truth you guys either don't know or refuse to acknowledge, the NS economic system broke free of international finance, rebuilt a destroyed nation, eliminated mass unemployment, stabilized prices, built public works and a quality of life unmatched in Europe. That’s why it had to be destroyed not because it was evil but because it cut out the money powers and worked tremendously. The entire "6 million" mythos is a mockery figure that covers up the occupational recovery of Hitler creating and filling over 6 million jobs for unemployed Germans from Weimar.

Samseau calls this ‘worshipping losers’. Where is worship exactly? It is studying suppressed victories. Because when you actually know history, the fact that Hitler ‘lost’ doesn’t explain why the world is still monetarily enslaved today as it was before his interruption. But his economic model does offer a path forward. He achieved an economic victory between 1933-1945 that no communist country can ever boast of not even the US. No one had that kind of financial freedom since before Waterloo.

Since you guys constantly go back to the red pill, why do those of you who care about winning so much ignore the most obvious red pill of them all here being the economic one? It inspired similar nationalizing and economic attempts by Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, and Gaddafi, all had similar ideologies based on NS, the money powers lied about all of them too.

Also @It_Is_My_Time just curious where is the proof that Hitler was antagonizing America before the war? I looked at MFTP's timeline in this post here: https://christisking.cc/threads/hit...round-of-world-war-two.797/page-12#post-85904

and searched these events.. there is zero antagonizing from Hitler to the US before the war but plenty of hostilities and open smearing of Germany from the US. The only time Hitler verbally attacked the US was his speech on Dec 11th 1941 when he declared war on them, after years of US subversive belligerency against Germany and 6 months of supplying the USSR with lend lease. He talks about what America was doing before the war in heavy details:

 

[Острог]

All of this is not to worship Hitler but to be historically honest. As Christians we have an obligation to seek the truth and part of that is also to discern this topic. If we make exceptions then I don't see how we would differ from others who judge how they see fit, we could be talmudic jews then AFAIC.

 

[magoo]

@Australia Sucks yours and others argument boils down to two things:

Hitler lost. 2. Therefore nothing good can be learned from the NS period.
This is postwar liberal moralism that masquerades as analysis. Samseau cannot win a battle of details so he avoids them or just cites wikipedia articles permitted by his talmuds like a normie who is too lazy to look for the truth.

Germany instituted most conscription in 1943 when manpower became desperate but in 1939–1942 the Waffen-SS had hundreds of thousands of foreign volunteers from over 30 nations many of whom had no German blood. Every last one of Spain's Axis fighters were volunteers. They weren’t conscripted or tricked. These men were ideologically motivated, which is not the insult Samseau thinks it is. The Allies never had anything like that. Their fiat money systems survived, but the ideology of Hitler will outlive all their systems even if it was just 1 man who believed in it and not the millions that still do.

The claim that Americans “rushed to sign up” ignores reality. 10.1 million men were conscripted and most of them teenagers. Just read their letters. Half didn’t even know what Europe had to do with them. They didn’t join to fight ‘evil’ they joined because they had no choice. The number of people who were conscripted on the Allied behalf per capita far outweighs those conscripted on the Axis side.

Read the earlier posts where MFTP clearly provided details on Jagerstatter who was executed not for refusing to fight or refusing to "swear an oath" but for encouraging military sedition under wartime law. One man’s emotional post-war "martyrdom" doesn’t prove an entire military system was coercive. But it does reveal how little an uneducated anti-Hitler agitator knows if they think Jagerstatter is some universal example.

Here’s the truth you guys either don't know or refuse to acknowledge, the NS economic system broke free of international finance, rebuilt a destroyed nation, eliminated mass unemployment, stabilized prices, built public works and a quality of life unmatched in Europe. That’s why it had to be destroyed not because it was evil but because it cut out the money powers and worked tremendously. The entire "6 million" mythos is a mockery figure that covers up the occupational recovery of Hitler creating and filling over 6 million jobs for unemployed Germans from Weimar.

Samseau calls this ‘worshipping losers’. Where is worship exactly? It is studying suppressed victories. Because when you actually know history, the fact that Hitler ‘lost’ doesn’t explain why the world is still monetarily enslaved today as it was before his interruption. But his economic model does offer a path forward. He achieved an economic victory between 1933-1945 that no communist country can ever boast of not even the US. No one had that kind of financial freedom since before Waterloo.

Since you guys constantly go back to the red pill, why do those of you who care about winning so much ignore the most obvious red pill of them all here being the economic one? It inspired similar nationalizing and economic attempts by Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, and Gaddafi, all had similar ideologies based on NS, the money powers lied about all of them too.

Also @It_Is_My_Time just curious where is the proof that Hitler was antagonizing America before the war? I looked at MFTP's timeline in this post here: https://christisking.cc/threads/hit...round-of-world-war-two.797/page-12#post-85904

and searched these events.. there is zero antagonizing from Hitler to the US before the war but plenty of hostilities and open smearing of Germany from the US. The only time Hitler verbally attacked the US was his speech on Dec 11th 1941 when he declared war on them, after years of US subversive belligerency against Germany and 6 months of supplying the USSR with lend lease. He talks about what America was doing before the war in heavy details:

The consequences from Hitler policy was a completely subjugated and destroyed country. Wether he was right or wrong is debatable. Hitler was so nefarious to Germany that today Germany is still occupied. And will continue to be. Cause his loss can be considered one of the biggest fuckups of history. No ruler damaged so much his country. He fell for the jew trap. Any action against jews must be done through a coalition. No country alone can beat them. Cause they are internacional.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

The consequences from Hitler policy was a completely subjugated and destroyed country. Wether he was right or wrong is debatable. Hitler was so nefarious to Germany that today Germany is still occupied. And will continue to be. Cause his loss can be considered one of the biggest fuckups of history. No ruler damaged so much his country. He fell for the jew trap. Any action against jews must be done through a coalition. No country alone can beat them. Cause they are internacional.

You just described what Germany was before Hitler. It was actually a lot worse before Hitler. Your post is very inaccurate, as many leaders have damaged their own countries much more.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

The consequences from Hitler policy was a completely subjugated and destroyed country. Wether he was right or wrong is debatable. Hitler was so nefarious to Germany that today Germany is still occupied. And will continue to be. Cause his loss can be considered one of the biggest fuckups of history. No ruler damaged so much his country. He fell for the jew trap. Any action against jews must be done through a coalition. No country alone can beat them. Cause they are internacional.

They had post WW1 starvation, then Weimar: starvation, degeneracy and reparations, all before Hitler, and from a coalition of countries. It's comparable to what happened after WW2, so he's not the sole source of Germany's 20th century problems.

Your simplistic analysis of Hitler is essentially the same as the post-war propaganda that he was the only bad guy on planet earth from 1939-1945.

 

[InspCallahan]

Wasn't the Axis or Wermacht a Coalition?

In a world that was getting smaller and encroaching Globo-Ho-Mo of the One World Talmudist, when was the perfect time to act against this Ancient International Force of Dark Principalities? I mean in my lousy assessment of things, any time to act was a crap shoot. Especially the falibility of humans and their Judas sell out ways against a power that can weaken or tempt any man who you may think your friend or ally.

 

[Australia Sucks]

It inspired similar nationalizing and economic attempts by Idi Amin, Saddam Hussein, and Gaddafi, all had similar ideologies based on NS, the money powers lied about all of them too.

So your examples are all leaders that got killed by foreign governments. Going against the globalist system head on and getting yourself killed saves your country how exactly?

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

So your examples are all leaders that got killed by foreign governments. Going against the globalist system head on and getting yourself killed saves your country how exactly?

I would rather a leader get killed by foreign governments, for going against the satanic global order, than live in the USA or UK, where your men fought for the satanic NWO and now their countries are far worse off for "winning" the war.

 

[Острог]

These podcasts keep coming like on demand.

https://podcastaddict.com/the-pete-quinones-show/episode/199834213

 

[Острог]

I would rather a leader get killed by foreign governments, for going against the satanic global order, than live in the USA or UK, where your men fought for the satanic NWO and now their countries are far worse off for "winning" the war.

He essentially said that 'might makes right' which we know to be a fallacy. He essentially called the holy martyrs of Serbia including their King an illegitimate loser because the Ottomans ground them to dust in Kosovo. I will stop here because me continuing would involve a lot of swearing towards that level of 'intellect'.