Looks like Music was banned, he can still come back and comment from a new account. I have nothing more to say about these invented atrocities against the German minority in pre-war Poland. Anyway, he dumps his questionable info here indiscriminately, good and bad, so I'll counter with mine, the reader decides.
Let me give a neater quote from one of the sources above, which really summarizes everything curious people need to know about those false flag attacks, in one case two German perpetrators were caught by the Polish police in August of 1939, after detonating a bomb in front of a German National fraternity building.
The timing of events (highlighted in bold) as provided in this article from 2009, agrees with that from his comment:
In the future I'll address how a few years before the war started, Hitler had attempted several times to enlist Poland into his military expedition against the USSR. Which blows the argument of attacking Poland in retaliation for these made-up atrocities, out of the water. The goal had always been to wage war on the Soviets. The Germans were promising us a bounty in the form of captured territories in the east, while painting optimistic visions of success, saying the inclusion of each one Polish army division, would tie up the Red Army, ensuring the survival of five German ones, and increase their operational effectiveness.
All of those offers were rejected for varying reasons, originally by Pilsudski himself, as our status wouldn't have been that of equals, but of a 'protectorate'. Realizing there was no use trying anymore, the Germans needed to manufacture a good pretext to attack us, and hence these "massacres" had to be invented, in addition to old territorial grievances, so that the Wehrmacht could go through the Polish territory.
Edit:
Reposting one more relevant thing, since we're on a new page. The Bromberg Massacre, Music brought up in one of his replies is described towards the end, and some confusion clarified:
Let me give a neater quote from one of the sources above, which really summarizes everything curious people need to know about those false flag attacks, in one case two German perpetrators were caught by the Polish police in August of 1939, after detonating a bomb in front of a German National fraternity building.
The timing of events (highlighted in bold) as provided in this article from 2009, agrees with that from his comment:
Made-up incidents? Even mainstream historical accounts acknowledge the persecution of Germans in Polish-held territories.
There were issues with Poland going back over a year. The massacres didn't start getting bad until March 1939.
The German Intelligence Service had been creating combat and sabotage organizations in Poland since February 1939. Among the agents and saboteurs were Polish citizens of German nationality, also serving in the Polish Army, from Silesia, Greater Poland, Kuyavia, Pomerania and Eastern Lesser Poland. These groups carried out the most actions in August 1939 and in the first days of the war.
German sabotage organizations not only gathered intelligence information and information about the most important figures in Polish public life, whose names were placed on proscription lists, but also tried to provide the Third Reich authorities with pretexts to unleash a smear campaign against Poland. In order to deepen anti-German sentiment in Poland, the Third Reich intelligence services spread false and disturbing news. They also organized attacks on homes and farms belonging to Germans. The culmination of these activities was a series of bomb attacks on German property in the last decade of August 1939. The perpetrators were agents of the Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst, SD) of Reichsführer SS Heinrich Himmler, which had also been involved in preparing sabotage operations in Poland since at least the spring of 1939.
Among the facilities to be blown up or set on fire were, among others: headquarters of German organizations, publishing houses and printing houses owned by Germans, schools belonging to the German minority, German monuments, a pontoon bridge in the Free City of Gdańsk, as well as mills, sawmills, shops, bookstores and farms belonging to famous Volksdeutsche.
Historians have managed to establish, mainly thanks to the research of Karol Marian Pospieszalski, that only a few dozen attacks were included in the plans of the Reichsführer SS. Thanks to the publication of the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs "Dokumente zur Vorgeschichte des Krieges" published in 1939, containing a compilation of official reports on border incidents, it is known that in the last days of August the German police informed the authorities in Berlin about Poles setting fire to German farms located in border towns. All these places were included in the plan of attacks of the Reichsführer SS, so it can be assumed that they were German provocations.
Determining the execution of several subsequent attacks turned out to be possible based on reports from the Polish press, which wrote about mysterious fires of German farms in the Poznań province and explosions of explosives in Zaolzie. On the night of 23-24 August in Cieszyn, bombs planted under the Schiller monument, in front of the monument to those killed in World War I, the Prochaska printing house and the Kutzer printing house, next to the Polonia hotel, exploded.
Information about some of the attacks can be found in preserved materials of the Polish Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Thanks to them, we know that on the night of August 25-26 in Poznań there was a bomb explosion in front of the JdP office and "an explosion of explosives in front of a German bookshop, whose owner distributed anti-Polish prints from Germany". On August 27, unknown perpetrators were supposed to have demolished the marina of the German rowing club in Grudziądz. The Polish authorities, not knowing about the Reichsführer SS's plan of attacks, considered these events as manifestations of anti-German speeches.
State Police documents from the Silesian Voivodeship confirm the execution of the attacks in Katowice. On the night of August 25-26, a few minutes after 1 a.m., bombs exploded in front of the Deutscher Volksbund headquarters on Młyńska Street and in the building of the German school on Stalowa Street. The perpetrators of the attacks, Eichhorn and Funk, were detained by the Polish police; during the investigation, they admitted that they were SD agents.
Three attacks in Silesia were prevented by the police. In Bielsko, the arrests of saboteurs prevented the blowing up of the offices of the German newspaper "Aufbruch", the headquarters of the JdP Main Board and the villa of Rudolf Wiesner. However, there was an explosion of explosives stored in five suitcases in the premises belonging to one of the attackers - Wiktor Köning from Biała near Bielsko (28 August at 2:00).
Article link in Polish.
The German Intelligence Service had been creating combat and sabotage organizations in Poland since February 1939. Among the agents and saboteurs were Polish citizens of German nationality, also serving in the Polish Army, from Silesia, Greater Poland, Kuyavia, Pomerania and Eastern Lesser Poland. These groups carried out the most actions in August 1939 and in the first days of the war.
German sabotage organizations not only gathered intelligence information and information about the most important figures in Polish public life, whose names were placed on proscription lists, but also tried to provide the Third Reich authorities with pretexts to unleash a smear campaign against Poland. In order to deepen anti-German sentiment in Poland, the Third Reich intelligence services spread false and disturbing news. They also organized attacks on homes and farms belonging to Germans. The culmination of these activities was a series of bomb attacks on German property in the last decade of August 1939. The perpetrators were agents of the Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst, SD) of Reichsführer SS Heinrich Himmler, which had also been involved in preparing sabotage operations in Poland since at least the spring of 1939.
Among the facilities to be blown up or set on fire were, among others: headquarters of German organizations, publishing houses and printing houses owned by Germans, schools belonging to the German minority, German monuments, a pontoon bridge in the Free City of Gdańsk, as well as mills, sawmills, shops, bookstores and farms belonging to famous Volksdeutsche.
Historians have managed to establish, mainly thanks to the research of Karol Marian Pospieszalski, that only a few dozen attacks were included in the plans of the Reichsführer SS. Thanks to the publication of the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs "Dokumente zur Vorgeschichte des Krieges" published in 1939, containing a compilation of official reports on border incidents, it is known that in the last days of August the German police informed the authorities in Berlin about Poles setting fire to German farms located in border towns. All these places were included in the plan of attacks of the Reichsführer SS, so it can be assumed that they were German provocations.
Determining the execution of several subsequent attacks turned out to be possible based on reports from the Polish press, which wrote about mysterious fires of German farms in the Poznań province and explosions of explosives in Zaolzie. On the night of 23-24 August in Cieszyn, bombs planted under the Schiller monument, in front of the monument to those killed in World War I, the Prochaska printing house and the Kutzer printing house, next to the Polonia hotel, exploded.
Information about some of the attacks can be found in preserved materials of the Polish Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Thanks to them, we know that on the night of August 25-26 in Poznań there was a bomb explosion in front of the JdP office and "an explosion of explosives in front of a German bookshop, whose owner distributed anti-Polish prints from Germany". On August 27, unknown perpetrators were supposed to have demolished the marina of the German rowing club in Grudziądz. The Polish authorities, not knowing about the Reichsführer SS's plan of attacks, considered these events as manifestations of anti-German speeches.
State Police documents from the Silesian Voivodeship confirm the execution of the attacks in Katowice. On the night of August 25-26, a few minutes after 1 a.m., bombs exploded in front of the Deutscher Volksbund headquarters on Młyńska Street and in the building of the German school on Stalowa Street. The perpetrators of the attacks, Eichhorn and Funk, were detained by the Polish police; during the investigation, they admitted that they were SD agents.
Three attacks in Silesia were prevented by the police. In Bielsko, the arrests of saboteurs prevented the blowing up of the offices of the German newspaper "Aufbruch", the headquarters of the JdP Main Board and the villa of Rudolf Wiesner. However, there was an explosion of explosives stored in five suitcases in the premises belonging to one of the attackers - Wiktor Köning from Biała near Bielsko (28 August at 2:00).
Article link in Polish.
In the future I'll address how a few years before the war started, Hitler had attempted several times to enlist Poland into his military expedition against the USSR. Which blows the argument of attacking Poland in retaliation for these made-up atrocities, out of the water. The goal had always been to wage war on the Soviets. The Germans were promising us a bounty in the form of captured territories in the east, while painting optimistic visions of success, saying the inclusion of each one Polish army division, would tie up the Red Army, ensuring the survival of five German ones, and increase their operational effectiveness.
All of those offers were rejected for varying reasons, originally by Pilsudski himself, as our status wouldn't have been that of equals, but of a 'protectorate'. Realizing there was no use trying anymore, the Germans needed to manufacture a good pretext to attack us, and hence these "massacres" had to be invented, in addition to old territorial grievances, so that the Wehrmacht could go through the Polish territory.
Edit:
Reposting one more relevant thing, since we're on a new page. The Bromberg Massacre, Music brought up in one of his replies is described towards the end, and some confusion clarified:
In 1939, many sabotage actions took place in Poland, inspired by the German secret services.
On April 28, 1939, the Third Reich terminated the Polish-German non-aggression pact. The natural effect of this situation was to aggravate relations between Poles and the German minority living in the Republic. There were both anti-Polish and anti-German demonstrations. Additionally, German secret services conducted activities aimed at spreading unrest and provoking provocations. They were to present the German troops' attack on Poland as a campaign of retaliation against a series of aggressions on the Polish side, which would justify it in the eyes of international public opinion. In Germany, a secret cell was established to coordinate the activities of the German minority in Poland, called the so-called Committee of Six. Already in the spring of 1939, Polish counterintelligence arrested several dozen people on charges of espionage for Germany.
In the summer, there were a number of attacks on Polish border posts, railway stations and industrial facilities in the border zone. Saboteurs from Germany placed bombs in facilities belonging to the German minority, including German schools. Terrorist attacks also occurred deep in Polish territory. At the end of August, a member of the German national minority from Bielsko placed two suitcases loaded with explosives in the railway station in Tarnów. Twenty people died in the explosion, and one third of the station building was destroyed. The number of victims could have been higher, as a transport of Polish soldiers left the station a few minutes before the explosion, and the train from Kraków was late in arriving.
On the eve of the outbreak of World War II, the Third Reich's security services carried out a series of provocations as part of Operation Himmler. The most famous of these was the Gliwice provocation. Before the war, Gliwice belonged to Germany territorially. On August 31, 1939, a seven-person group of Germans posing as Poles broke into the building of the local radio station. One of the attackers began reading a previously prepared message, but after a few words the radio fell silent for unknown reasons. The provocation turned out to be an embarrassment for the organizers. However, this did not hinder German propaganda. Two hours after the "attack", all transmitters of the Deutschlandsender radio station broadcast extensive information about "Polish provocations".
Part of the German sabotage operations aimed to seize strategically important objects. An example of such an operation is the so-called Jabłonków incident. In the vicinity of the town of Mosty near Jabłonków there was a three-hundred-meter railway tunnel, which was one of the most important communication passages through the main ridge of the Carpathians. Its capture by the Germans could have ensured a quick transfer of troops to Polish territory. To avoid this, the Poles mined the tunnel. According to the original German plans, the aggression against Poland was to begin in the morning of August 26, 1939. The attack was called off at the last minute by Adolf Hitler, who was afraid of the consequences of the Polish-British alliance. The order to change the date of the attack did not reach the group of saboteurs, who set off in the evening to take over the object. The Polish personnel of the tunnel did not allow themselves to be surprised and held their positions.
A dozen or so minutes before the German invasion began, a sabotage group tried to seize the bridges in Tczew, where the railway line from the Reich to East Prussia ran. The Germans intercepted two Polish steam locomotives on the border and sent a train with an assault group as a planned transit train. The operation ended in failure thanks to Polish railway workers who directed the approaching train onto a dead end. Polish sappers blew up the bridges and the Germans had no convenient connection with Prussia until the construction of a new bridge was completed in 1940.
Since the first aggression of the Third Reich against Poland, some members of the German minority organized numerous sabotage actions against Polish soldiers. Parachutists also carried out such actions. Telephone lines were cut en masse, railway tracks were sabotaged, and disinformation was spread. The saboteurs often appeared in Polish uniforms. Units of the sabotage Freikorps Ebbinghaus attempted to occupy some Silesian cities. The German so-called fifth gathered intelligence information, including on the location of the Polish highest authorities.
On September 3, retreating Polish troops were fired upon from several locations in Bydgoszcz [aka Bromberg]. A fight broke out, and the army began to catch saboteurs. Several hundred suspects were detained. In accordance with the martial law, people in civilian clothes who possessed weapons were shot. In the heat of the moment, innocent Germans were also murdered. After several hours, the situation seemed under control, but the attacks on Polish troops were repeated at night and the next day. This time, soldiers shot all suspects on the spot. On September 5, Wehrmacht troops entered the city. Several hundred Poles were shot in the first week of the occupation of Bydgoszcz. By the end of 1939, about five thousand residents of Bydgoszcz and the Bydgoszcz district had died in executions. The events of September 3 and 4, under the name "Bromberger Blutsonntag" (Bydgoszcz Bloody Sunday), were used by the propaganda of the Third Reich.
Thanks to the denunciations of some of the German minority living in the pre-war Polish Republic, many Poles were found on the so-called list of enemies of the Reich. This data was used in the elimination of Polish intelligentsia, members of local authorities, political activists, war veterans, declared patriots, representatives of the world of culture and science, conducted from the first day of the war.
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In 1939, many sabotage actions took place in Poland, inspired by the German secret services.
On April 28, 1939, the Third Reich terminated the Polish-German non-aggression pact. The natural effect of this situation was to aggravate relations between Poles and the German minority living in the Republic. There were both anti-Polish and anti-German demonstrations. Additionally, German secret services conducted activities aimed at spreading unrest and provoking provocations. They were to present the German troops' attack on Poland as a campaign of retaliation against a series of aggressions on the Polish side, which would justify it in the eyes of international public opinion. In Germany, a secret cell was established to coordinate the activities of the German minority in Poland, called the so-called Committee of Six. Already in the spring of 1939, Polish counterintelligence arrested several dozen people on charges of espionage for Germany.
In the summer, there were a number of attacks on Polish border posts, railway stations and industrial facilities in the border zone. Saboteurs from Germany placed bombs in facilities belonging to the German minority, including German schools. Terrorist attacks also occurred deep in Polish territory. At the end of August, a member of the German national minority from Bielsko placed two suitcases loaded with explosives in the railway station in Tarnów. Twenty people died in the explosion, and one third of the station building was destroyed. The number of victims could have been higher, as a transport of Polish soldiers left the station a few minutes before the explosion, and the train from Kraków was late in arriving.
On the eve of the outbreak of World War II, the Third Reich's security services carried out a series of provocations as part of Operation Himmler. The most famous of these was the Gliwice provocation. Before the war, Gliwice belonged to Germany territorially. On August 31, 1939, a seven-person group of Germans posing as Poles broke into the building of the local radio station. One of the attackers began reading a previously prepared message, but after a few words the radio fell silent for unknown reasons. The provocation turned out to be an embarrassment for the organizers. However, this did not hinder German propaganda. Two hours after the "attack", all transmitters of the Deutschlandsender radio station broadcast extensive information about "Polish provocations".
Part of the German sabotage operations aimed to seize strategically important objects. An example of such an operation is the so-called Jabłonków incident. In the vicinity of the town of Mosty near Jabłonków there was a three-hundred-meter railway tunnel, which was one of the most important communication passages through the main ridge of the Carpathians. Its capture by the Germans could have ensured a quick transfer of troops to Polish territory. To avoid this, the Poles mined the tunnel. According to the original German plans, the aggression against Poland was to begin in the morning of August 26, 1939. The attack was called off at the last minute by Adolf Hitler, who was afraid of the consequences of the Polish-British alliance. The order to change the date of the attack did not reach the group of saboteurs, who set off in the evening to take over the object. The Polish personnel of the tunnel did not allow themselves to be surprised and held their positions.
A dozen or so minutes before the German invasion began, a sabotage group tried to seize the bridges in Tczew, where the railway line from the Reich to East Prussia ran. The Germans intercepted two Polish steam locomotives on the border and sent a train with an assault group as a planned transit train. The operation ended in failure thanks to Polish railway workers who directed the approaching train onto a dead end. Polish sappers blew up the bridges and the Germans had no convenient connection with Prussia until the construction of a new bridge was completed in 1940.
Since the first aggression of the Third Reich against Poland, some members of the German minority organized numerous sabotage actions against Polish soldiers. Parachutists also carried out such actions. Telephone lines were cut en masse, railway tracks were sabotaged, and disinformation was spread. The saboteurs often appeared in Polish uniforms. Units of the sabotage Freikorps Ebbinghaus attempted to occupy some Silesian cities. The German so-called fifth gathered intelligence information, including on the location of the Polish highest authorities.
On September 3, retreating Polish troops were fired upon from several locations in Bydgoszcz [aka Bromberg]. A fight broke out, and the army began to catch saboteurs. Several hundred suspects were detained. In accordance with the martial law, people in civilian clothes who possessed weapons were shot. In the heat of the moment, innocent Germans were also murdered. After several hours, the situation seemed under control, but the attacks on Polish troops were repeated at night and the next day. This time, soldiers shot all suspects on the spot. On September 5, Wehrmacht troops entered the city. Several hundred Poles were shot in the first week of the occupation of Bydgoszcz. By the end of 1939, about five thousand residents of Bydgoszcz and the Bydgoszcz district had died in executions. The events of September 3 and 4, under the name "Bromberger Blutsonntag" (Bydgoszcz Bloody Sunday), were used by the propaganda of the Third Reich.
Thanks to the denunciations of some of the German minority living in the pre-war Polish Republic, many Poles were found on the so-called list of enemies of the Reich. This data was used in the elimination of Polish intelligentsia, members of local authorities, political activists, war veterans, declared patriots, representatives of the world of culture and science, conducted from the first day of the war.
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