French Politics Thread
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Yes indeed:
Mustard yellow = Macron
Black = Le Pen's RN party
Blue = center right allied with le Pen
light blue sliver = center right neoliberals
Red, green, pink = left coalition
Note however that the dark red LFI don't get along with the pink and green neoliberal and green leftists, their coalition is going to be very fragile. The pink and green are basically allied with Macron, but that block together can't form a majority either.
Mustard yellow = Macron
Black = Le Pen's RN party
Blue = center right allied with le Pen
light blue sliver = center right neoliberals
Red, green, pink = left coalition
Note however that the dark red LFI don't get along with the pink and green neoliberal and green leftists, their coalition is going to be very fragile. The pink and green are basically allied with Macron, but that block together can't form a majority either.
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Cordon sanitaire is the clear winner of this election.
Riots would play into Macron's hands, and are part of his machiavellic plans, see Jan.6 in the US.
It would be an embarrassment to Macron and the French Government if the Olympics was ruined. That's something they could do!
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Shaquilleoatmeal
Protestant
Let it crumble.
Was this election considered legit by everyone, by the way?
Was this election considered legit by everyone, by the way?
I think it's "legit," but they're sabotaging the will of the people with legal technicalities.
It's disappointing.
The party with the largest number of votes is Nouveau Front populaire
Which was only -
No other country I have followed the politics in seems to have this phenomenon of parties or alliances being founded just before elections and having such a huge effect.
I'm not an expert with these election mechanisms anyway, but does anyone understand why France seems to have this quirk?
Have done a bit of reading both in mainstream and very not mainstream media about the election may write a bit more some time.
Democracy in its current form is very dubious.
The party with the largest number of votes is Nouveau Front populaire
Which was only -
It was the same with Macron's party back when it first got in. Founded shortly before the election.
No other country I have followed the politics in seems to have this phenomenon of parties or alliances being founded just before elections and having such a huge effect.
I'm not an expert with these election mechanisms anyway, but does anyone understand why France seems to have this quirk?
Have done a bit of reading both in mainstream and very not mainstream media about the election may write a bit more some time.
Democracy in its current form is very dubious.
El Dorado
Other Christian
Considering that those Mohammedans are busy out-breeding those namby-pamby leftists as we speak, that day isn't too far off. Just made me remember Jean Raspail's 1973 novel, Camp of the Saints.
Never read it, but keep meaning to find a cheap used copy. Has anybody else here read it?
Also reminds me a bit of the small town in Michigan where the Homosexual/Pervert lobby rallied behind the Mohammedan community. Eventually the Mohammedans reached a critical mass, took complete control of City Hall, and said: "no degenerate LGBTQXYZ Pride nonsense in our town."
The fruit brigade lost their collective minds and screeched about how the Mohammedans had basically 'betrayed' them. Oh well, sucks to be stupid, Nancy-boy.
If France is THE first country to have abortion legalized in their constitution, then that means abortion is NOT a constitutional right anywhere else in the world outside of France and the media just admitted it haha
Next time they ever say its a womans right I will tell them "only in France"
No, that's not true. The New Popular Front have the most seats, not the most votes. The National Rally got significantly more votes than them in both the first and second rounds. The other parties stood aside in many seats in the second round in order for the anti-National Rally votes to coalesce. The percentage of votes for the National Rally went up to 37% in the second round but that was swept under the carpet in the mainstream media with the forced narrative being that they came third (in terms of seats).
Can you explain this?
I was also reading this and seeing bar charts of exactly that over the last few days.
seats vs votes ?
Why are they not directly proportional, what am I missing?
There's obviously details about the French system that are not so intuitive, someone on CiK must understand how it works...
The French don't have proportional representation. The country is split into constituencies and there are two rounds of voting, the exception being when a candidate wins an absolute majority of votes in the first round (that happened in 76 constituencies). In all other cases (501 constituencies) the top two candidates and anyone with a vote total of more than 12.5% of registered voters goes through to a second round. In more than half the constituencies the National Rally had the most votes in the first round. However in the second round most of the third (and in some cases fourth) placed candidates who had qualified for the second round stood aside so that their vote would go to whoever was positioned behind the National Rally. In each constituency the person placed first in the second round wins the seat, everyone else gets nothing. So its possible to poll very high percentages but not win seats. The British also have a first-past-the-post system, albeit without the two round element. Hence why Farage's Reform UK party managed to win 14% of votes and gain only 1% of seats.
Thanks for the whole post, will think about it when more awake. What is the French word for 'constituencies' is it région or départements or something else.. I suspect it is this :
We probably need a diagram eventually to understand it..
Sounds like the first round results are totally discarded after it's done. The first round just filters for the second round. I wonder what the thinking is behind it, who designed it, maybe like a cooling off period if everyone thinks they did something crazy the first time they have a chance to fix it.
How did the RN manage to go from 1st to 3rd place? Just a whole lot of extra voters got a terrible fright and rushed out to vote for something else to stop them, as the French usually do.
There are 3 groups as I understand it, and Macron's group are a comfort-loving well to do liberal, «Bobo»
That leftist group which dominated - who are they - idealists and socialists? I heard that they are haters of capitalism and Antifas.
Then, the RN are like us, well, I can probably speak for most of us on the forum.
I was wondering, if the left united under a new party, the right (which may have included Eric Zemmour) probably chose not to. I know that Marion Maréchal quit Zemmour's party just before the election and defected back to the RN.
I don't appreciate the various nihilists who say they are compromised etc. Yes, as @MusicForThePiano very cleanly pointed out in another thread -
..many of these party leaders are forced to do the goy grovel at the wailing wall or Auschwitz. This is a worldwide thing, for now, but what the nihilists who love to say "nothing would change if the RN were elected" are missing is that these parties have a lot of members. Smaller numbers of politicians, but there would be a lot of radicals among their ranks. Just the surface appearance in the current overton window makes them look compromised but something would definitely come unstuck with the status quo if they came in with a majority. That's why TPTB try so hard to stop it, now using lawfare against Marine le Pen like they did against Donald Trump. Anyway, this topic is sadly something for 2027 now.