Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

If Trump loses, it is his fault and his incredibly evil stapling green cards to diploma campaign policy.


Need more information such as statistics. The fake COVID Pandemic started in March 2020, which created massive job losses for American workers as well as closing of American-owned small businesses. Once Biden Administration took control of the White House in January 2021, jobs for foreign-born workers spiked dramatically thanks to Biden's open border policy.

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Need more information such as statistics. The fake COVID Pandemic started in March 2020, which created massive job losses for American workers as well as closing of American-owned small businesses. Once Biden Administration took control of the White House in January 2021, jobs for foreign-born workers spiked dramatically thanks to Biden's open border policy.

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Well yea, the thing is a lot of Americans are hurting very badly right now and the last thing they want to hear is "we will have a lot more people coming here".

Will it cost him the election? I don't know, the polls look good for him right now, so probably not.
 
I say get the foreign kids out of our private prep schools and colleges. They are a major contributor to jacking up the tuition costs and making foreigners smarter and more capable than our children that are already US citizens. Only people who benefit are foreigners and our institutions.
 
Well yea, the thing is a lot of Americans are hurting very badly right now and the last thing they want to hear is "we will have a lot more people coming here".

Will it cost him the election? I don't know, the polls look good for him right now, so probably not.



Joe Biden Told You Democrats Plan Was To Replace The American People’s Vote & Their Jobs With Cheap Labor

“We're significantly expanding legal pathways for entry so businesses can get the workers they need.”

“I'm also directing my team to make a historic increase in the number of refugees admitted from Latin America”

“We put in place policies that process people in a fair and fast way.”

“We're supporting states and cities that have seen a surge in immigrants. We've developed federal experts and deployed them to help train city workers.”
 
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I'm not saying to vote or not vote for Trump. My feeling is it simply doesn't matter who wins and I don't exert any energy on it. The point of my post is that over the last few months the resentment towards legal immigration is rightfully exploding across the west. And it seems like the DNC has basically thrown the election, knowing they can't win with a good candidate as bad as the economy is. So, they will just burn their anxiety riddled high end escort and let her take the fall. But there is a chance she could win, and if she does win, it will not be her putting it over the top, it will be Trump's disastrous campaign of 2024 and burning the bridges with the base he thought he could just count as voting for him.

 
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I'm not saying to vote or not vote for Trump. My feeling is it simply doesn't matter who wins and I don't exert any energy on it. The point of my post is that over the last few months the resentment towards legal immigration is rightfully exploding across the west. And it seems like the DNC has basically thrown the election, knowing they can't win with a good candidate as bad as the economy is. So, they will just burn their anxiety riddled high end escort and let her take the fall. But there is a chance she could win, and if she does win, it will not be her putting it over the top, it will be Trump's disastrous campaign of 2024 and burning the bridges with the base he thought he could just count as voting for him.
Even if I reduce voting for Trump to "voting against the Marxists," Trump's platform is so tepid and meaningless that I really have a hard time seeing any functional difference between voting against the Marxists and not voting at all. Everytime I think the guy will pull it together, his campaign gets even worse. I say this as someone who is looking for reasons to vote for Trump. Forget about the millions of people who aren't even trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Add this to the fact that nothing has been done to fix the easily-rigged voting system and it's easy to see the worst case scenario happening this election.
 
Even if I reduce voting for Trump to "voting against the Marxists," Trump's platform is so tepid and meaningless that I really have a hard time seeing any functional difference between voting against the Marxists and not voting at all. Everytime I think the guy will pull it together, his campaign gets even worse. I say this as someone who is looking for reasons to vote for Trump. Forget about the millions of people who aren't even trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Add this to the fact that nothing has been done to fix the easily-rigged voting system and it's easy to see the worst case scenario happening this election.
This is a potential swing state, should go Trump, but if the people are dealing with this hell and Trump is out saying "we are going to have a lot of people coming here" there is a chance he loses the election by his base just not coming out to vote. He lost around 5% of the White Male vote between 2016 and 2020.

 
This is a potential swing state, should go Trump, but if the people are dealing with this hell and Trump is out saying "we are going to have a lot of people coming here" there is a chance he loses the election by his base just not coming out to vote. He lost around 5% of the White Male vote between 2016 and 2020.


You don't think JD Vance is going to help with that?

Kinda a no brainer.
 
You don't think JD Vance is going to help with that?

Kinda a no brainer.
It seems JD Vance isn't helping the campaign much, from what I can gather.

I think Trump still wins, but if he does lose, it is all his fault for running such a bad campaign. I thought he might move further to the right to recapture his 2016 base by now, and he hasn't done it, and I don't expect him to do it, and it might cost him a sure thing win.
 
It seems JD Vance isn't helping the campaign much, from what I can gather.

I think Trump still wins, but if he does lose, it is all his fault for running such a bad campaign. I thought he might move further to the right to recapture his 2016 base by now, and he hasn't done it, and I don't expect him to do it, and it might cost him a sure thing win.
Not sure what source you're "gathering" but if you're thinking he isn't incredibly popular with Ohio (which DJT is also) then I am not sure what to tell you.
 
Vance has been really great from everything I've seen. He's very articulate and compelling in his numerous media appearances, which are obviously mostly conducted with hostile interviewers. He honestly comes across much better than Trump himself does these days. Trump is really showing his age and just tends to ramble on and repeat himself. Hopefully he brings his best performance to the debate tomorrow.
 
I think Trump still wins, but if he does lose, it is all his fault for running such a bad campaign.
Trump loses and it has nothing to do with him and anything he has ever said or done. The US Presidential Elections have for some time been decided by elite billionaire jews long before a single vote is ever cast. I would have thought that you of all people would be aware of this fact.
You don't think JD Vance is going to help with that?
No. When They ushered Biden out to be crucified in the earliest "debate" ever held it became clear(er) that Kamala was chosen over a year ago by the JQ to be the next US President. JD Vance cannot help with anything as the die was cast long before his arrival.
 
Vance has been really great from everything I've seen. He's very articulate and compelling in his numerous media appearances, which are obviously mostly conducted with hostile interviewers. He honestly comes across much better than Trump himself does these days. Trump is really showing his age and just tends to ramble on and repeat himself. Hopefully he brings his best performance to the debate tomorrow.
The question becomes...

Is Vance's fake polish politician demeanor good enough to win over enough "middle of the road normies" v. how many 2016 Trump voters will remain home by being sick of the Bush era policies. We will not really know until November.

I just don't know how many "middle of the road normies" are left. It seems a majority American voters break down into the following groups.

- Trump supporters.
- Trump Derangement Syndrome voters, who will vote for anyone to vote against Trump.
- People who think no one is going to fix this mess and are sick of this disgusting system. I talk to a lot of people like this in a very red area of the country. I don't think they are going to vote, I don't think they care, they just see it all as fake and doesn't matter.

In this red part of the country, in my circles, it seems these groups are evenly split, each about 33%. Trump isn't attracting the last group anymore with this campaign from what I have heard/gathered in talking to people.
 
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