Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

[Get2choppaaa]

They are not banned because they don't challenge the system. No one on this forum should be still getting information from what is presented on TV or on youtube. Those are only approved talking points, by sell out phonies, who are paid to control opinion.

He comes from Iran, is paid a ton of money, to push pro-Israel and pro-war sentiment. Stay far away from him. This is evil. And I think everyone else here can now see this after the last 6 months, which is great, the wall is breaking down.

No. The soundbite from Piers Morgan and your general assessment isn't a complete take. That specific conversation was about why we need to get out of funding Ukraine. The Israel (and also Saudi) support, while I don't agree with, is purely a strategic conversation about which group to align with.

PBD is 100 percent self made and isn't some shill like you're presenting. He's had RFK Jr on, DeSantis, and tons of other takes from the left and the right.

Again, pretending that there's some secret knowledge from fridge groups is not going to illuminate people accross the spectrum and shift the Overton Window.

PBD has been fairly pro Trump because of the pragmatic reality here.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

No. The soundbite from Piers Morgan and your general assessment isn't a complete take. That specific conversation was about why we need to get out of funding Ukraine. The Israel (and also Saudi) support, while I don't agree with, is purely a strategic conversation about which group to align with.

PBD is 100 percent self made and isn't some shill like you're presenting. He's had RFK Jr on, DeSantis, and tons of other takes from the left and the right.

Again, pretending that there's some secret knowledge from fridge groups is not going to illuminate people accross the spectrum and shift the Overton Window.

PBD has been fairly pro Trump because of the pragmatic reality here.

Israel support is about satanic elites controlling the west and pushing for a satanic base in the middle east to commit larger crimes. There is no other explanation for it.

It is easy to be a "self-made" millionaire, like Dan Crenshaw, and many other satanic beings, if you are willing to sell out your fellow Americans for lies and talking points for a great war. I would never do it, it is evil, and there is a day of reckoning from my lord and savior for doing it.

Of course he is pro-Trump, that is the greatest grift we have seen. That is why I want Trump back in office, he will make the moves to ensure the facade is broken forever. Rather than being a martyr, he will be a guy who spent 8 years in office getting nothing done and as a result millions of young men will wake up and become active.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Israel support is about satanic elites controlling the west and pushing for a satanic base in the middle east to commit larger crimes. There is no other explanation for it.

It is easy to be a "self-made" millionaire, like Dan Crenshaw, and many other satanic beings, if you are willing to sell out your fellow Americans for lies and talking points for a great war. I would never do it, it is evil, and there is a day of reckoning from my lord and savior for doing it.

Of course he is pro-Trump, that is the greatest grift we have seen. That is why I want Trump back in office, he will make the moves to ensure the facade is broken forever. Rather than being a martyr, he will be a guy who spent 8 years in office getting nothing done and as a result millions of young men will wake up and become active.

You've got such a bleak view of the world it's sometimes hard to engage....you'd benefit from the PBD outlook of "the future looks bright"

That's how winners think.

Dan Crenshaw, once you look at his history, was clearly captured and recruited and groomed for his station. His father was deep state connected if I recall...

Trump is likely to do a lot more than " breaking the system through doing nothing"...

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

You've got such a bleak view of the world it's sometimes hard to engage....you'd benefit from the PBD outlook of "the future looks bright"

That's how winners think.

Dan Crenshaw, once you look at his history, was clearly captured and recruited and groomed for his station. His father was deep state connected if I recall...

Trump is likely to do a lot more than " breaking the system through doing nothing"...

It isn't bleak, LOL, it is just the reality most men deal with. I think you have said you make really good money and thus think this is possible for everyone. It simply isn't. Most men are stuck working dead end jobs, or have no jobs at all, and will never be able to afford a decent life. The recent mass immigration has cemented this as a fact of life for all of us. The satanic elites have taken the most powerful force in the world, young men, and poked them with a stick and then think they can sedate them with drugs/porn/GOP talking heads. It just isn't going to work much longer.

Trump will do exactly what he did from 2017 to 2021. Pass tax cuts for Blackrock/the satanic elites. Gaslight his own base with talk and moves that go against what he promised. Give more funding to Israel, which this time will backfire massively, and then make excuses. The problem is, things are so much more dire now and so many more are awake, it will not work at all. And that is what I am looking forward to. 10's of millions of blue pilled MAGA's starting to ask questions and finding answers online. So, while I support Trump, I support Trump simply because I know his failure and lies will lead to a massive awakening that he is supposed to prevent.

 

[Blade Runner]

You've got such a bleak view of the world it's sometimes hard to engage....you'd benefit from the PBD outlook of "the future looks bright"

That's how winners think.

Yes, it's one thing to legitimately point out problems with the world and the way information is presented, or propaganda (this site's purpose) and an entirely different thing to just complain about everything, nearly 100% of the time.

I have my complaints. But you know what? I also have a plan and something to strive for, which I've talked about. A chance at a solution, perhaps.

And that is what I am looking forward to.

As we see here again, you don't look forward to anything. And that's why we have a little beef, and a back and forth. If you don't believe there's a future, why do you keep complaining about it? Just accept it. Let's say I do better than you do, or Get2choppaaa does. Did you ever think that might be even worse for us, since we are further along the ratings system, whatever that means, but are still relatively locked out? If America is finished, and you don't leave (at least in part, or arb something, DO something bro), then what's the point of your complaining, except despair and bringing people down? After a while, no one would want to hang out with you in real life. So change your perception, or keep reinforcing being a loser. Your choice.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Yes, it's one thing to legitimately point out problems with the world and the way information is presented, or propaganda (this site's purpose) and an entirely different thing to just complain about everything, nearly 100% of the time.

I have my complaints. But you know what? I also have a plan and something to strive for, which I've talked about. A chance at a solution, perhaps.

As we see here again, you don't look forward to anything. And that's why we have a little beef, and a back and forth. If you don't believe there's a future, why do you keep complaining about it? Just accept it. Let's say I do better than you do, or Get2choppaaa does. Did you ever think that might be even worse for us, since we are further along the ratings system, whatever that means, but are still relatively locked out? If America is finished, and you don't leave (at least in part, or arb something, DO something bro), then what's the point of your complaining, except despair and bringing people down? After a while, no one would want to hang out with you in real life. So change your perception, or keep reinforcing being a loser. Your choice.

I very much look forward to young men waking up. It is the most exciting thing to watch. I am blessed to be old enough to be above the fray and yet young enough to watch on for years to come. This is really exciting.

I am doing something. I am working 7 days a week, saving every penny, investing, so I am more powerful. I am watching over my aging parents, which is a very big step in life. I am not going to abandon them to chase women in Europe. Nothing I have said is "despair" it is just reality. Unless you think we can magically make 80 IQ people into 100 IQ people with "education", this is just the reality we face. Who wins or loses, at the end of the day us unknown. Well, we know who will lose, it will be the third world people, either because they get kicked out or because they succeed in replacing the founding stock and then China comes a calling.

 

[Blade Runner]

I very much look forward to young men waking up. It is the most exciting thing to watch. I am blessed to be old enough to be above the fray and yet young enough to watch on for years to come. This is really exciting.

I am doing something. I am working 7 days a week, saving every penny, investing, so I am more powerful. I am watching over my aging parents, which is a very big step in life. I am not going to abandon them to chase women in Europe. Nothing I have said is "despair" it is just reality. Unless you think we can magically make 80 IQ people into 100 IQ people with "education", this is just the reality we face. Who wins or loses, at the end of the day us unknown. Well, we know who will lose, it will be the third world people, either because they get kicked out or because they succeed in replacing the founding stock and then China comes a calling.

You don't know what's going to happen, exactly. None of us do. If you aren't buying BTC, by the way, I don't want to hear anything about working for the slave master. Over and out.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

You don't know what's going to happen, exactly. None of us do. If you aren't buying BTC, by the way, I don't want to hear anything about working for the slave master. Over and out.

BTC is a different debate, I am iffy on it, but I am not going to tell someone to or not to buy it.

I know what will happen, anyone who knows history knows what will happen. We are just repeating history. The satanic elites who have a long and well documented history of both creating and systematically destroying empires. The USA is just the most recent one. They appear to want to use China as their next world power to attack the rest of the world from behind, but China so far is shutting them out. I don't know if they can take China like they took the USA or not. I do know they will keep trying and in the process, they will systematically destroy our nation so we can't come back for revenge.

That is the purpose of immigration, to destroy the country and it is very successful. Who wins, is unknown, but the script is very easy to see. And yes, of course Trump is part of the script, if not, he would have been put into prison long ago.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

MAGA and America First have a different meaning in Trump's inner circle.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

MAGA and America First have a different meaning in Trump's inner circle.

Donald Trump has declared he would end the war.

This is not aligned with his views. That's Mike Pompeos views. He is owned by the defense in industry.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

You'd benefit from the PBD outlook of "the future looks bright"

I hear a lot of rich and famous people like PBD, Tony Robbins, and Trump say these types of things. The implied message is, "I feel great about my life in my huge, paid for house, and you should too." And, "I succeeded so that means you can too." This is not necessarily true. There is a lot of luck involved in high-level wealth and status creation. Working hard is only part of the equation. To a certain extent the system is rigged because if everybody could just "work hard" and become a millionaire, there would be a lot more millionaires out there. But The System doesn't work like that because if everyone was a millionaire, a million dollars would be worth nothing. Extreme wealth creation is predicated on the existence of extreme poverty. One cannot exist without the other.

I think you have said you make really good money and thus think this is possible for everyone. It simply isn't. Most men are stuck working dead end jobs, or have no jobs at all, and will never be able to afford a decent life.

Pretty spot on. There's only so many spots available within the different classes, and most men in the world will work their entire lives and still not make it into the middle class.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Pretty spot on. There's only so many spots available within the different classes, and most men in the world will work their entire lives and still not make it into the middle class.

Yep. I am only here because of my age, and the opportunities that existed 25 years ago v. today and also because I worked 7 days a week, lived cheap and invested very wisely.

Most men will never get there, and I realistically realize I could lose my job and not find a new one and find myself out of the middle class. So I live like someone in poverty, until I have enough to never work again and live in the middle class. I am very close to that now, I may have made it, but I never look a gift horse in the mouth.

Most young men will never come close in the USA. The paths men our age took are mostly closed to young men today. This country is collapsing remarkably fast by every measurable standard and no one running for office is even addressing the major issues.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Donald Trump has declared he would end the war.

This is not aligned with his views. That's Mike Pompeos views. He is owned by the defense in industry.

Trump has declared a lot of things he never did. If he doesn't tell Pompeo off, with this satanic demonic take, I wouldn't trust him in the least.

 

[TruckDriver9]

I'm not sure the USD is collapsing right now.

One can say that the USD collapsed already, just look at how much value it lost over the past century, or even in the last few years. Sure we won't ever reach Zimbabwe level of collapse, but the dollar won't regain its value either. Best we can hope for is the revival of common sense energy policies that will stop the bleeding.

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Our power was in our military strength. It forced other nations to trade in the USD and to fear our reach. That is disappearing at a lightening speed.

There's still a significant part of the world, and I especially mean the G7 countries, that relies on the US for protection so they'll remain on the plantation and continue to trade in the USD and shoulder our debts. I could even argue that part of the reason why we triggered the conflict in ukraine, was to cut down the economic ties between Russia and Europe and re-establish American dominance over Europe. And I won't be surprised if the same template is used in Asia - push Taiwan/Japan/Korea into direct confrontation with China and offer a safe heaven for their industries in the CONUS.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

One can say that the USD collapsed already, just look at how much value it lost over the past century, or even in the last few years. Sure we won't ever reach Zimbabwe level of collapse, but the dollar won't regain its value either. Best we can hope for is the revival of common sense energy policies that will stop the bleeding.

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There's still a significant part of the world, and I especially mean the G7 countries, that relies on the US for protection so they'll remain on the plantation and continue to trade in the USD and sholder our debts. I could even argue that part of the reason why we triggered the conflict in ukraine, was to cut down the economic ties between Russia and Europe and re-establish American dominance over Europe. And I won't be surprised if the same template is used in Asia - push Taiwan/Japan/Korea into direct confrontation with China and offer a safe heaven for their industries in the CONUS.

Loss of purchasing power yes. But what others are implying like Venezuela collapse... Not going to happen.



Here's the full video about Trump and Piers @It_Is_My_Time

Watch the 15 mins on his take about Iran. It's on point.

He also literally explains that Israel/BB wants an escalation and this is wrong.

 

[TruckDriver9]

TBH, I will be shocked if the USA is even a functioning country by 2040. I'm not sure how it could go on another 16 years. With this debt, this much mass immigration of 80 IQ people, this much crime and violence, that only increases year over year, this much loss of standing in the world, and the only people holding this thing up are checking out at an alarming rate.

It might then be rebuilt, in its original image, or it might just become Brazil of the north, with a few decent areas and most of it a warzone. I suspect it will be much like Brazil is now, before 2040.

And we only last that much longer, if China/Russia/Iran decides to not take out our out of date electrical grid or other infrastructure, which wouldn't take much and they have more than enough motivation to do so.

United States will survive as a country, it's not that easy for a country to dissolve - historically speaking, it takes a total economic collapse/civil war/foreign invasion for a country to break down into pieces. So it will survive, but it won't be the country of Your grandparents, and even the country that we know today. Looking at demography alone it's safe to say that we are on a path to become yet another Latin American country: Brazil if we're lucky, Venezuela if we're not.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Loss of purchasing power yes. But what others are implying like Venezuela collapse... Not going to happen.



Here's the full video about Trump and Piers @It_Is_My_Time

Watch the 15 mins on his take about Iran. It's on point.

He also literally explains that Israel/BB wants an escalation and this is wrong.

I am sure he doesn't like Iran. He gets to come to my country, make 7 figures to sell my family members out, and be called a "hero". In Iran he would have to work and be productive and live an average life. Granted, most men in this country would love for that opportunity and will never get it, so he gets paid 7 figures to gaslight them into thinking having nothing but being proud of a country that stands for satanic beliefs is a good thing.

I am so happy frauds like him are being destroyed online. The narrative is collapsing.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Unitated States will survive as a country, it's not that easy for a country to dissolve - historically speaking, it takes a total economic collapse/civil war/foreign invasion for a country to break down into pieces. So it will survive, but it won't be the country of Your grandparents, and even the country that we know today. Looking at demography alone it's safe to say that we are on a path to become yet another Latin American country: Brazil if we're lucky, Venezuela if we're not

Well, Venezuela is really just worse than Brazil, because we bail Brazil out and do nothing for Venezuela due to them being sponsored by our "enemies". Without our help, Brazil would look much like Venezuela. So that gives you an idea of what is coming here.

As for breaking up, can a third world govt., run by 90 IQ people keep a country full of righteously angry well armed people across such a large land mass under one roof? I guess we will find out.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I am sure he doesn't like Iran. He gets to come to my country, make 7 figures to sell my family members out, and be called a "hero". In Iran he would have to work and be productive and live an average life. Granted, most men in this country would love for that opportunity and will never get it, so he gets paid 7 figures to gaslight them into thinking having nothing but being proud of a country that stands for satanic beliefs is a good thing.

I am so happy frauds like him are being destroyed online. The narrative is collapsing.

Dude. This is low t, little dick jealous energy. I posted it 8 mins ago, you responded 2 mins later. You didn't even watch it clearly. If you watched his stuff you'd agree with at least 80 percent of it.

Your default state is just to take anything and make it negative.

This is why no one takes you very seriously here.

He's not getting paid anything by anyone to do anything. He created a company after getting out of the military and has been an incredibly successful business man.

Again you're just taking an assumption out of the ether and fitting it to your ugly cynical Outlook.

I believe the future is bright for me. If you believe it's bleak for you... Then it certainly will be.

You manifest into your life that which you believe. It's as simple as that.

 

[TruckDriver9]

Well, Venezuela is really just worse than Brazil, because we bail Brazil out and do nothing for Venezuela due to them being sponsored by our "enemies". Without our help, Brazil would look much like Venezuela. So that gives you an idea of what is coming here.

Veneluelans did more than enough to burry themselves - the Chavez era nationalization of oil and gas industries caused an exodus of skilled engineers and workers and without them their immense wealth of natural resources is worthless. Brazilians have at least enough common sense not cut the branch their sitting on.

As for breaking up, can a third world govt., run by 90 IQ people keep a country full of righteously angry well armed people across such a large land mass under one roof? I guess we will find out.

It's just speculation based on history.
But in the present, Brazil is the best example we have - the disparities between the 90%+ white south and the rest of the country are astonishing, and yet there's no talk about separation and the dissolution of the state.