Sir you wrote this:
“We still have free will to chose him or chose Worldly focuses.”
It is not an ‘or.’ We can be from the world, but not in this world and put God first while living regular lives.
That's taking what I'm saying and not understanding the context of the meaning. You're arguing silly conclusions with out contextualizing. But since this is your 4th post... And I doubt you've investigated much the positions I'm coming from, let me explain:
Yes you live in the world... But prioritizing worldly pursuits at the expense of Christ and His Kingdom is wrong. That doesn't mean you can't live life well, give glory to God for all your blessings ECT.
I am pretty sure there's several biblical lessons about rich men and poor men. Maybe you can refer to them for context of what I'm getting at here.
So only the Orthodox saints count? Will the non Orthodox Christians be saved? Please tell me. Again you have no idea.
You told me to mirror St. Francis. I told you I don't accept him as a saint. You might as well have said "go live your life like Ghandi" to which I could take your absurd comment and say..."Go live like Ghengis Kahn" in both cases they were living out their values and faith. But in neither case do I accept them as spiritual examples applicable to me as an Orthodox Christian.
As far as salvation, as an Orthodox Christian, we believe that Faith is God, following the Sacraments of the Church, Repentance, and Good Deeds all lead to salvation. No one is saying God can't save someone outside the Church... Just we believe that the former is the way to salvation.
Sir, you are correct. It is only my opinion from lurking here that some of your posts read like you are attempting to play an ‘alpha male’ from red pill ideology. In fact, many from the so called Ortho bro movement strike me the same way. It is simply a response to the mass feminization of males we see in our society, but the only real top dog male is Jesus Christ, not you or anyone else here.
Nope... Not playing anything. Just calling em like I see them... I am hardly an OrthoBro. Again... No one is pretending that Jesus isn't the King (actually you might note that Christ is King is the name of the forum)
Sir, your ‘firm stance’ may change on certain things with time or at worst lead to some sort of extremism. Discussion of hell not, since the OP seems totally off base with his assertion of Universalism.
I have no idea what this means. So now if people disagree with your presentation it's Extremisim?
I agree that being direct on topics such as this where the poster seemed way off on the concept of hell you can be direct. But attempting to hit people who don’t agree with your stance with words like they are being punched in the face will not lead them to your side.
Did you consider that my audience might not be the individual? But other individuals reading the thread?
Here's the thing my friend... You're making a lot of claims about arrogance here whilst projecting to be some great debate teacher or thinking to be so arrogant to offer ME advice as though it's warranted or going to be well received.
I am simply not interested in your lecture of me...but I'd be happy to debate you on a point by point basis if that's what you'd like.
You've made a nonsense post about living like Francis of Asisi as though you had half an inkling of what I was speaking out by cherry picking context....then proceeded to accuse me of being an arrogant OrthoBro or imply that I'm playing a character. So no... I am not very interested in your attempts to batter down my argument with your non committal approach of saying "Because we are not God, we can't know anything" when in reality... We can know some things based off Faith/Tradition ect.
Thanks for catching up Mate!
