Decline of Functioning Society

easy_c said:
Majority of ones in my life?

No.

Majority of the women I went to business school with?

Yes.

Majority of random you encounter out there?

Yes.



The way you word this question isn't really a good bench mark because most of us will be cultivating different associations than is the average.
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This is the problem I’m stuck in … you can’t. Those “different associations” are very closed off and don’t like outsiders much. It’s easier to break into normie conformie world than beak into a subculture that doesn’t think the majority of your business school is women or majority of women out there. You almost need to be born into it. And I don’t blame them. Everyone and their dog is looking to get their foot in the door to destroy non conforming subcultures.
 
KulturedKaveman said:
I bought this up in another thread. It’s 35-70 yo women who make killing their baby the main issue. Sub 35 women are more worried about their paycheck being gobbled up by rent and jobs.
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I agree with that because the one woman I know, maybe a second I know secondhand, who actually think it's the main issue are out of baby making age. Very odd to say the least.
 
easy_c said:
Majority of ones in my life?

No.

Majority of the women I went to business school with?

Yes.

Majority of random you encounter out there?

Yes.



The way you word this question isn't really a good bench mark because most of us will be cultivating different associations than is the average.
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The majority of women you encounter are most concerned with killing their babies? Crazy because for me it's the opposite, the very vast majority of women I encounter think it's disgusting and the women pushing it on the internet are even more disgusting.
 
FrancisK said:
The majority of women you encounter are most concerned with killing their babies? Crazy because for me it's the opposite, the very vast majority of women I encounter think it's disgusting and the women pushing it on the internet are even more disgusting.
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If you look at the voting, the skew for young women is about 2/3 Leftist.

It's worse in other places. Have a best friend in Colorado and he says most of the women he meets are raging leftists. He's had multiple of them Start ranting about abortion on first dates.
 
KulturedKaveman said:
I have been reading about how Trumps election is splitting families and ruining relationships. Do you guys think there’s a chance we’re simply too dumb for democracy? “We the People” only works with an educated population with healthy, strong families. As the decline in intelligence continues and people become individualistic - I guess more spoiled would be a better term - is it time we start experimenting with less democratic forms of government like limited sufferage, monarchy, or technocracy? I know we complain about elites a lot but would our society be better off under a technocracy?
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America does not deserve even a Federal Republic, let alone a Democracy. The Constitution was written for a moral and Christian people and is not meant for any other. Why? Because the Constitution gives great liberty trusting that a moral and Christian people won't abuse their liberty. When the people become degenerate and immoral themselves, the law necessarily becomes stricter.
 
easy_c said:
If you look at the voting, the skew for young women is about 2/3 Leftist.

It's worse in other places. Have a best friend in Colorado and he says most of the women he meets are raging leftists. He's had multiple of them Start ranting about abortion on first dates.
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Much of Colorado has become a horrible place with horrible people. Basically California now.

Meeting women in Denver would largely be a waste of time unless it's through Christian related activities. And even then, proceed with caution.
 
easy_c said:
If you look at the voting, the skew for young women is about 2/3 Leftist.

It's worse in other places. Have a best friend in Colorado and he says most of the women he meets are raging leftists. He's had multiple of them Start ranting about abortion on first dates.
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I guess you're right, numbers don't lie and I know most women voted for Harris. I guess I'm just well insulated from that type of woman, I don't know how else to account for it.
 
I live in a county which voted 70% for Kamala Harris. Virtually everyone I encounter voted for Harris, and believes Trump is the worst human on the planet.

I am fully planning on moving at some point, but there are children, and an estranged wife involved so I need to wait another decade or so.
 
GodfatherPartTwo said:
America does not deserve even a Federal Republic, let alone a Democracy. The Constitution was written for a moral and Christian people and is not meant for any other. Why? Because the Constitution gives great liberty trusting that a moral and Christian people won't abuse their liberty. When the people become degenerate and immoral themselves, the law necessarily becomes stricter.
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That's essentially how Plato and other Greek philosophers viewed democracy. The "democratic man" is powered by base instincts, easily manipulated and incapable of making higher level moral decisions.

And of course the "democratic woman", which didn't exist as a voter until the 20th century, was even worse...
 
I still think the "libertardian" gov't would be ideal, but in smaller states, not something gigantic like the USA. Smaller states and some experimentation on direct democracy. My prediction is that eventually government of any kind will be the cause of human extinction.
 
Cooper said:
That's essentially how Plato and other Greek philosophers viewed democracy. The "democratic man" is powered by base instincts, easily manipulated and incapable of making higher level moral decisions.

And of course the "democratic woman", which didn't exist as a voter until the 20th century, was even worse...
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Neither Democracy or Authoritarianism are intrinsically good or bad. They both can be good or evil depending on who has the power. The American people have become conditioned to believe that democracy is inherently good and so they vote themselves more freedom, while they become more evil in the process.

Think of the people as two sons. One son is well behaved but the other is a troublemaker. If you are good, you will be strict with the troublemaker but lenient with the well-behaved one. If you are evil, you will reward the troublemaker and punish the well-behaved one.

If the people are good, there is no reason to impose a strict law on them. Give them liberty. If the people are evil, a strict law is necessary to stop their decline. They do not deserve freedom.
 
thinkreadwritecode said:
I still think the "libertardian" gov't would be ideal, but in smaller states, not something gigantic like the USA. Smaller states and some experimentation on direct democracy. My prediction is that eventually government of any kind will be the cause of human extinction.
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The most important factor determining the quality of a government, by far, is the quality of the ruling elite, much more so than the type of government.

This explains why things are so bad today in the West, where our governments are one large interconnected kakistocracy.

You could say what you want about the governments of China or Russia, but the fact is, their ruling class cares about their nation and their people, and that is why they are rising.
 
Cooper said:
The most important factor determining the quality of a government, by far, is the quality of the ruling elite, much more so than the type of government.

This explains why things are so bad today in the West, where our governments are one large interconnected kakistocracy.

You could say what you want about the governments of China or Russia, but the fact is, their ruling class cares about their nation and their people, and that is why they are rising.
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Well the reason for that is simple, the people here in the USA don't share a common ancient history and culture to pull them together like those other countries. It's not insurmountable as obviously the USA became the greatest country in the world for a reason but as long as we have a "ruling class" that cares more about other countries than the ones they live in it will always be a problem.
 
KulturedKaveman said:
I bought this up in another thread. It’s 35-70 yo women who make killing their baby the main issue. Sub 35 women are more worried about their paycheck being gobbled up by rent and jobs.
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I don't think young women (at least not the attractive ones anyway) are overly worried about their paychecks as there are plenty of guys simping over them paying for stuff for women while getting nothing in return. I see plenty of women with mediocre or downright crappy jobs or even just working part time but they seem to live pretty good lifestyles. Obviously they aren't paying for everything by themselves....
 
KulturedKaveman said:
I have been reading about how Trumps election is splitting families and ruining relationships. Do you guys think there’s a chance we’re simply too dumb for democracy? “We the People” only works with an educated population with healthy, strong families. As the decline in intelligence continues and people become individualistic - I guess more spoiled would be a better term - is it time we start experimenting with less democratic forms of government like limited sufferage, monarchy, or technocracy? I know we complain about elites a lot but would our society be better off under a technocracy?
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this. As I have personally pondered this issue for many hours, the march toward leviathan is inevitable. What that means for the U.S. is a strong and growing federal government that will eventually destroy any of the rights our constitution was meant to protect (but we let this happen to ourselves, and are past the rubicon with regards to IQ, multi-ethnic society, women voting, etc. etc.). This is the only way our society can remain stable as well. Like you have pointed out, the populace is growing stupider by the day, are becoming more violent, have nothing binding us together. Only a strong central government will hold things together.

What leviathan means for the world is stronger governmental institutions. They will take power through international institution and control of the money supply like they are already doing through the IMF and WEF. The march toward a world government is inevitable. And predicted by Revelation. It is the ultimate realization of "leviathan" than Hobbes theorized.
 
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