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The summary of HR7109 per Congress.gov is as follows:

This bill requires any questionnaire used in the decennial census to include a checkbox or other similar option for respondents to indicate whether the respondent and each household member is a U.S. citizen.

The Department of Commerce must make public the number of citizens and noncitizens in each state.

The bill also requires that the statement sent by the President to Congress indicating the number of persons in each state (related to the reapportionment of U.S. Representatives) excludes noncitizens.

Reckon the GOPe is starting to realize they'll lose their spot at the trough if they don't clamp down on the invasion.
 
Helmsman said:
The summary of HR7109 per Congress.gov is as follows:

This bill requires any questionnaire used in the decennial census to include a checkbox or other similar option for respondents to indicate whether the respondent and each household member is a U.S. citizen.

The Department of Commerce must make public the number of citizens and noncitizens in each state.

The bill also requires that the statement sent by the President to Congress indicating the number of persons in each state (related to the reapportionment of U.S. Representatives) excludes noncitizens.

Reckon the GOPe is starting to realize they'll lose their spot at the trough if they don't clamp down on the invasion.
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Isn’t the Senate led by the Dems?
 
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This may be difficult to hear, but it needs to be said.

Many are missing the bigger picture.

It's not just about potential mail-in ballot issues; there are concerns about the integrity of our voting process, including the influence of illegal votes in key states. Republicans need to be proactive and build their infrastructure to combat this, especially in swing states.

Regarding Trump’s impact, his popularity is soaring. Some criticize him for not achieving enough, but in a system many believe is rigged, expecting miracles is unrealistic. Trump stands as a defiant figure against the establishment, and that's a powerful stance. He has shown resilience in the face of legal challenges and continues to fight on, earning respect for his determination. He’s a unique leader for our times.

From my perspective in politics, Trump has shifted from being seen as elitist to embodying populism. This transformation, shared by figures like RFK Jr., transcends party lines. His legal battles have resonated with many, including Black and Hispanic communities, who now see him as more relatable and less privileged. The left's missteps have inadvertently bolstered his support and fueled a slow but growing conservative shift. Trump has become a symbol of resistance and may be remembered as a martyr for his cause.

On demographics, America isn't changing overnight. Legal immigrants have established strong identities here. However, white Christians have weakened in their opposition to left-wing ideologies, and instead weakened their indentities. Many hope for a savior like Trump instead of engaging in local politics. Churches have gotten much more "moderate." As another example, people in our local party want change but are unwilling to take leadership roles. They complain about problems but avoid solutions, failing to align with others who share their concerns, just because of those others' identities being different from theirs. I think it's great to want to preserve your own identity but if you are just screaming and complaining about it, and avoiding those with solutions that align with that preservation, then that inaction is causing self-destruction. This isn't unlike the conservatives at the Federal level, but rather just a microcosm of their decline.

So here's the hard truth: Wake up, speak out, and actively preserve your culture. Take real ownership instead of just complaining online. Get involved in your community, organize, and take action. No one is coming to save you unless you start by saving yourself.
 
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I am listening to a great podcast and they are breaking down the low voter turnout in the primaries. One example is where a MAGA candidate lost to a GOP RINO in WV, when the spending was very close in numbers, with extremely lower voter turnout. And we are seeing this across the country, low voter turnout, establishment GOP candidates beating "MAGA outsiders" in the primaries, etc. In WV they said the turnout was only 29% of registered voters.

The theory that post-populism is being floated on the podcast. That nothing is going to bring people out, they have lost faith in the system and don't even care to go vote for anyone. What comes next is anyone's guess. It will be very interesting to see the voter turnout for the 2024 election and if they even break 40%. It is a great discussion to listen to and theorize on why voting turnout is so low and why even "outsiders" are no longer driving attention.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
I am listening to a great podcast and they are breaking down the low voter turnout in the primaries. One example is where a MAGA candidate lost to a GOP RINO in WV, when the spending was very close in numbers, with extremely lower voter turnout. And we are seeing this across the country, low voter turnout, establishment GOP candidates beating "MAGA outsiders" in the primaries, etc. In WV they said the turnout was only 29% of registered voters.

The theory that post-populism is being floated on the podcast. That nothing is going to bring people out, they have lost faith in the system and don't even care to go vote for anyone. What comes next is anyone's guess. It will be very interesting to see the voter turnout for the 2024 election and if they even break 40%. It is a great discussion to listen to and theorize on why voting turnout is so low and why even "outsiders" are no longer driving attention.
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That's because Trump wasn't on the ticket.

Trump gets massive down ballot turnout.
 
Get2choppaaa said:
That's because Trump wasn't on the ticket.

Trump gets massive down ballot turnout.
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Yea, they mentioned that. How it wasn't the talking points that is driving people to vote for Trump, but the cult of personality. Exactly why that is, it is unknown, they just had a theory about it being post populism, meaning they no longer trust populist candidates to follow through and have an apathy towards voting.

So, Trump will not be hurt by it at all, he should win with ease, but there is something much bigger coming into play down the road and we are starting to see the signs in this election cycle.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
I am listening to a great podcast and they are breaking down the low voter turnout in the primaries. One example is where a MAGA candidate lost to a GOP RINO in WV, when the spending was very close in numbers, with extremely lower voter turnout. And we are seeing this across the country, low voter turnout, establishment GOP candidates beating "MAGA outsiders" in the primaries, etc. In WV they said the turnout was only 29% of registered voters.

The theory that post-populism is being floated on the podcast. That nothing is going to bring people out, they have lost faith in the system and don't even care to go vote for anyone. What comes next is anyone's guess. It will be very interesting to see the voter turnout for the 2024 election and if they even break 40%. It is a great discussion to listen to and theorize on why voting turnout is so low and why even "outsiders" are no longer driving attention.
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Never use a primary election to judge turnout. Mid term elections can have upwards of 80%+ IF there is a strong down ballot candidate, for example for governor.

Presidential elections can be even higher if there is contention. That's why you've seen high turnout in the last few cycles.

The problem isn't the turnout itself. It's the value of that turnout. With ballot pickups and mail ins, people voting are being harvested rather than voting on their own. That is the worst thing that has happened to our voting system.
 


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Native New Yorkers Aren’t Holding Back. Ex Barack Obama Voter Tells The Media They Will Not Tolerate Another Stolen Election

One of the most epic interviews ever

“You guys are going to see in 2024 when there's a Red Wave and there's a landslide, what's going to happen. And if you guys try it again with what happened with the last election, with the cheating and the changing the votes at three o'clock in the morning. The suitcases coming in people running both through the machines more than once we're tired of it. We're done

We're voting for Trump. We're gonna we're gonna be voting red all the way down ticket.”

Illegal Immigrants “They get a check, they get a phone. While people in this country are starving, barely able to make it, yet again, not you in particular, but your organization likes to paint a false narrative. And we're tired of it. Yeah. American people are tired of it”

“A lot of people feel the same way that I do but we get ostracized if you say anything right you think because it's New York and yeah I mean listen you can be black you can be Hispanic and you'll be considered a white supremacist if you agree with Trump

You guys are ridiculous.”

— “The biggest issue is the border. We can't support these people. You have this moronic mayor that we have here in New York City. He wants to hire illegals to be lifeguards.

This is clown world that we're in right now.”

— “Everything that was made up about this guy was a lie. The so-called, what was it, the piss tape from Russia. Oh, he had hookers pissing on him in a hotel room. It was all false. Hillary Clinton paid for that tape, if I'm not mistaken. It's all BS, and people are tired of it. The veil is being lifted, and you guys are gonna see in November when we go to the polls.”

“You guys are gonna get your feelings hurt badly. And you know what? I can't wait, because I'm gonna stand outside in Manhattan with my coffee mug, and I'm gonna let the liberal tears just drip into my coffee, and I'm gonna take a nice sip of it.”

“Before Trump, I voted for Obama the first time. And then I saw that he was full of shit because he was nothing but divisive in this country. And then the second time around, I sat out because I didn't see the point in voting for Mitt Romney because he was a rhino. And then Trump came along? Then Trump came along. Trump came along and started putting people in their place. And then he started exposing the lies that the mainstream media likes to spin.”

“You know, legacy media is dying. You guys are on your last leg and that's it. There's gonna be some, there's gonna be a bunch of final nails and a lot of coffins on election day.”

I highlighted some key parts of this interview but I’d recommend listening to the whole thing, this is EPIC!
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Why I’m Backing President Trump

As many press accounts have reported, I’m hosting a fundraising event for President Donald J. Trump at my home in San Francisco this evening.

Over the last couple of years, I have hosted events for presidential candidates Ron DeSantis, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., as well as several Congressional figures in both major parties. I give to many, but endorse few.

But today I am giving my endorsement to our 45th President, Donald J. Trump, to be our 47th President. My reasons rest on four main issues that I think are vital to American prosperity, security, and stability – issues where the Biden administration has veered badly off course and where I believe President Trump can lead us back.

1. The Economy

President Biden took over an economy that was already recovering strongly from the Covid-induced shock of Q2 2020. Demand had roared back, and employment had recovered. But he chose to keep priming the pump with unnecessary Covid stimulus – almost $2 trillion of it, passed on a straight party-line vote in March of 2021, with trillions more to follow for “infrastructure,” green energy, and “inflation reduction.”

Biden did this despite early warnings from former Clinton Treasury Secretary Larry Summers that it could lead to inflation. When the inflation came, the Biden administration dismissed it as “transitory.” In fact, inflation still remains persistently high even after the fastest interest-rate tightening cycle in memory.

As a result of Biden’s inflation, average Americans have lost roughly a fifth of their purchasing power over the last few years. Moreover, any American who needs a mortgage, car loan, or credit card debt faces much higher interest costs, which further constrain their purchasing power.

It’s no different for our federal government, which now must devote over a trillion dollars annually to interest on its $34 trillion debt, a massive sum that’s been growing by a trillion dollars every hundred days. This trajectory is unsustainable, yet Biden’s 2025 budget calls for even higher spending.

Growth has already slowed from 3.4 percent in the last quarter of 2023 to an anemic 1.3 percent in the first quarter of this year. We can’t afford another four years of Bidenomics.

2. Foreign Policy / Ukraine War

President Trump left office with ISIS defeated, the Abraham Accords signed, and no new wars raging on the global stage. Three and a half years later, the world is on fire. President Biden has made several strategic choices that have contributed to this situation.

In his first year in office, Biden unnecessarily alienated the Saudis before realizing that they are an indispensable partner in the Middle East. He also presided over a chaotic withdrawal of our troops from Afghanistan (right policy, abysmal execution).

But his biggest blunder by far has been in Ukraine. His administration immediately began pushing for Ukraine’s admission to NATO, despite no unanimity among the existing NATO members that such a move was a good idea. When this predictably antagonized the Russians, the Biden administration doubled down at every turn, insisting that “NATO’s door is open, and will remain open” with respect to Ukraine. Biden himself baited Russia when he said he didn’t “accept anybody’s red lines.”

After the invasion, there was still a chance to stop the war in its early weeks before much loss of life and destruction had occurred. Russian and Ukrainian negotiators had signed a draft agreement in Istanbul that would have seen Russia retreat to its pre-invasion borders in exchange for Ukrainian neutrality. But the Biden administration rejected that deal as well as General Milley’s advice to seek a diplomatic solution in November 2022.

As the war of attrition grinds on, the Ukrainians face ever-mounting casualties and infrastructure damage. Still, President Biden keeps allowing the conflict to escalate and risk World War III. Every escalation that Biden initially resisted – Abrams tanks, F-16’s, ATACMs, allowing Ukraine to hit targets in Russia – he has eventually acquiesced to. There is just one more escalation to go: NATO troops on the ground fighting Russia directly. And our European allies like Emmanuel Macron are already spoiling for exactly this scenario.

With Biden, our choices are limited to fighting the proxy war to the last Ukrainian, or fighting Russia ourselves. President Trump has said he wants the dying in Ukraine to stop, and that he will seek to end the war through a negotiated settlement. Ukraine will no longer be able to get the deal we talked them out of in April 2022, but we can still save Ukraine as an independent nation and avert world war.

3. The Border

As an immigrant to the United States myself, I certainly believe in America’s history of strengthening its ranks by welcoming talented people from other nations seeking freedom and opportunity. But that promise requires an orderly process of legal immigration that emphasizes skills and the principles of American citizenship. This was the preferred policy under President Trump.

What Biden ushered in was a de facto open border policy. On his first day in office, he repealed President Trump’s executive orders restricting illegal immigration and stopped construction of a border wall, selling off parts of it for scrap metal. This quickly resulted in a massive spike in illegal border crossings and a chaotic and dangerous situation on our southern border.

President Biden (along with the hapless Kamala Harris and the malevolent Homeland Security Chief Alejandro Mayorkas) responded to growing concerns by gaslighting the American public, saying there was no problem at the border despite constant videos of masses of people sprinting across it.

When the situation became too dire to ignore or deny, Biden claimed he didn’t have the executive authority to do anything about it and blamed Republicans for not sending him legislation. But this week, facing abysmal polling numbers on this issue, Biden suddenly discovered he has executive authority after all. The order he signed is a tepid, too little-too late effort to slow the tidal wave of illegal immigration in time for the election. But Biden has shown he is not serious on this issue. If he wins a second term, the open border policy will resume, and tens of millions more illegals will stream across the border.

4. Lawfare

A bedrock of the political stability we’ve enjoyed in America over the last 250 years is that we don’t accept attempts to jail political opponents in order to win an election. Yet Biden has pushed for selective and unprecedented prosecutions of his once and future opponent from the moment he assumed office.

Merrick Garland took a long look at the January 6 situation and didn’t see a path to prosecute Trump, even after a one-sided Congressional committee sent a highly-prejudiced referral to his Justice Department. Press stories then appeared describing Biden’s frustration with Garland’s reticence. The result was Jack Smith at the federal level and Alvin Bragg and Fani Willis at the state level. All have pursued cases based on novel legal theories heretofore unseen and designed to get Trump. In the NY case, Bragg resurrected a dead book-keeping misdemeanor into 34 felonies by claiming it was in the service of a second crime that he never defined and that the judge never insisted the jury unanimously agree on.

My immigration to this country as a young boy happened because my parents disagreed with the political system of their home country. That government sought to solve its political disagreements by imprisoning its political enemies. What a sad irony that the lawfare we escaped has now reared its ugly head in America of all places.

President Biden keeps insisting that a return of President Trump to the White House threatens democracy. But his administration is the one that has colluded with tech platforms to censor the Internet, used the intelligence community to cover up his son Hunter’s laptop, and pursued elective prosecutions against his political opponents.

Conclusion: The A/B Test

The voters have experienced four years of President Trump and four years of President Biden. In tech, we call this an A/B test. With respect to economic policy, foreign policy, border policy, and legal fairness, Trump performed better. He is the President who deserves a second term.
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