Are there women who prefer men who are virgins?

Mrs TexasJenn said:
I've always been impressed with low numbers or even no sexual experience in a man, and turned off by a history of many partners - unfortunately, too common among appealing, accomplished men, for obvious reasons. Promiscuity affects both women and men negatively - this was always obvious to me, something to be avoided.
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Agree. This is why I'm "retired." I really banged em' out back in the day and racked up some numbers and I just couldn't face someone I was falling in love with with this truth. It's like admitting you were a prostitute. I'm damaged goods and I would never date or marry a woman with my numbers and past, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I made my bed and now I gotta' lie in it. I broke up with my last girlfriend, in part, because she had no idea of my past and I knew if she found out she would never look at me the same and lose a lot of respect for me. I could've faced it, but there were other things wrong with the relationship (she was very career driven) and I thought it best to let her go so she could find a more "suitable" man.

But I have been blessed to be recovering from "all that." Five years celibate and relationship free and I've never been happier. I never thought that I could be happy without physical contact with a women, but lo and behold it turns out I can. Thank God.
 
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PurpleUrkel said:
Agree. This is why I'm "retired." I really banged em' out back in the day and racked up some numbers and I just couldn't face someone I was falling in love with with this truth.
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I'm not saying I'd absolutely rule out a guy with a colorful history. We all make mistakes, and sincere repentance means something.

I just disagree with the common belief among men that women don't care about a man's history.

I know what you mean about being single and at peace, though. I got married 3 years ago, and while we have a lot of good times and there are many advantages, in some ways it's harder to be married than single.
 
Sandalwood Peak said:
Thank you for giving these guys a chance.
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Appreciate the support but I would never let a woman I love date a guy like me. Though I'm in poonanny "recovery" I'm just one hot piece of ass away from falling off the wagon. Luckily, I'm losing my looks and I don't have a ton of money so I don't have much to worry about with regards to some tender sweet young thing or gym rat MILF throwing herself at me. However, stranger things have happened which is why I don't even look at women any more, much less talk to them. I'm just trying to sell everything I own and move to the wilderness before "something bad happens" and an attractive woman starts chatting me up in an attempt to knock me off my journey of celibate bliss. Unfortunately, at this late stage in the game I'm achieving some regional mini-fame and so I feel "the eyes" of some women with daddy issues upon me. Hopefully I can escape The Matrix before I do something stupid.

Please pray for me that I don't meet a good woman and that I never get laid again 😂.

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in."
 
Mrs TexasJenn said:
I just disagree with the common belief among men that women don't care about a man's history.
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In my experience it’s rare for women to be bothered by a man’s body count unless it’s an extreme number (50+, etc). And there are even many women who are turned off by virgin men.

Again this goes back to the fallacy of thinking that men and women are equal. Different things are valued in men vs women. Just as men generally don’t care about a woman’s career or income women generally don’t care about a man’s body count.

Furthermore when a man has a high body count it’s a signifier of some sort of social status as he had to have some sort of value (exceptional looks, wealth, fame, etc) to get all of those women. Whereas for women any woman can get a high body count. In fact a high body count for women is seen as negative by men.

If a man sleeps with a lot of women he is a stud. If a woman sleeps with a lot of men she is a slut. It’s pretty much the only double standard in dating the advantages men. Every other double standard in the dating world favours women.
 
Australia Sucks said:
In my experience it’s rare for women to be bothered by a man’s body count unless it’s an extreme number (50+, etc). And there are even many women who are turned off by virgin men.

Again this goes back to the fallacy of thinking that men and women are equal. Different things are valued in men vs women. Just as men generally don’t care about a woman’s career or income women generally don’t care about a man’s body count.

Furthermore when a man has a high body count it’s a signifier of some sort of social status as he had to have some sort of value (exceptional looks, wealth, fame, etc) to get all of those women. Whereas for women any woman can get a high body count. In fact a high body count for women is seen as negative by men.

If a man sleeps with a lot of women he is a stud. If a woman sleeps with a lot of men she is a slut. It’s pretty much the only double standard in dating the advantages men. Every other double standard in the dating world favours women.
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I've had friends of all kinds, ranging from highly promiscuous to cradle Christian virgins. No woman I've ever known has been impressed by promiscuity in a man or viewed it as a sign of social status.

I agree that promiscuous women aren't too bothered by promiscuous men, which makes sense. But the pure virgins or low notch count women that most men on this forum seem to prefer are not impressed by it.

What's impressive to a non-promiscuous woman is a man who could have lots of sexual partners, but doesn't because he's discerning and has a higher mission.
 
Mrs TexasJenn said:
No woman I've ever known has been impressed by promiscuity in a man or viewed it as a sign of social status.
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Would you find it weird for a virgin man to escalate sexually with you? Logic being he's trying to do something he's not qualified for.

Likewise would you be willing to escalate sexually with a virgin man who's sexually averse due to inexperience?

Or do you perceive sex as a kind of awkward exercise where the act takes precedence over the merit of the participants, let's just do it because we need it?
 
Mrs TexasJenn said:
I just disagree with the common belief among men that women don't care about a man's history.
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It's just social, which is mostly the realm of women, since women are largely uninterested in truth matters. One need not even bring this up, as it doesn't matter quite literally for the man, except for extremes as others have said, with very detailed or particular issues.
Australia Sucks said:
Again this goes back to the fallacy of thinking that men and women are equal. Different things are valued in men vs women. Just as men generally don’t care about a woman’s career or income women generally don’t care about a man’s body count.
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Precisely. Jenn, if you're really honest, and you should be honest with yourself, the modern world is a testament to the fact that men were always right, women's thoughts or cares about things at large are mostly irrational and thus, irrelevant. The only time they "matter" is when they already coincide with the good that a man also sees and knows, since he is a man of integrity. The truth hurts, but everything has its price.
 
Sandalwood Peak said:
Would you find it weird for a virgin man to escalate sexually with you? Logic being he's trying to do something he's not qualified for.

Likewise would you be willing to escalate sexually with a virgin man who's sexually averse due to inexperience?

Or do you perceive sex as a kind of awkward exercise where the act takes precedence over the merit of the participants, let's just do it because we need it?
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As an Orthodox Christian convert, I now understand that sex should only happen in the proper context - between a loving married couple. In that case, on the first occasion, it doesn't matter how experienced or not the man is, because both the man and woman will be loving and patient and nature will take its course. There may be an awkward moment or two, but ultimately it should work just fine.

Personally, even before I converted, I wasn't concerned whatsoever about a man's ability to escalate toward sex. Sure, I wanted him to take initiative to ask me on a date, get to know me, and communicate his intentions if he saw potential with me. But I was always relieved and thankful and more interested when a man was making the effort to get to know me and determine compatibility for a relationship/marriage, rather than pushing for sex.
 
Blade Runner said:
It's just social, which is mostly the realm of women, since women are largely uninterested in truth matters. One need not even bring this up, as it doesn't matter quite literally for the man, except for extremes as others have said, with very detailed or particular issues.

Precisely. Jenn, if you're really honest, and you should be honest with yourself, the modern world is a testament to the fact that men were always right, women's thoughts or cares about things at large are mostly irrational and thus, irrelevant. The only time they "matter" is when they already coincide with the good that a man also sees and knows, since he is a man of integrity. The truth hurts, but everything has its price.
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Maybe I'm weird, but I've always been extremely interested in matters of truth. OK, I'm definitely weird. But my female friends aren't that different.

Women's thoughts or cares about things are mostly irrational? That's not my experience. Looking at my own parents, my mom has been far more rational than my dad in managing the home, finances, etc.

If men were so smart and right, they wouldn't have fallen for and gone along with the hundreds of psyops that they have. From my point of view, both men and women have been deceived, misguided, and enticed into all kinds of irrational, destructive things.

I'm not saying men are any worse than women. I just don't agree with your contention that women are uninterested in truth, irrational, etc. Women tend to follow men. Women look for good men to follow. Of course, in our fallen world, good men and good women are hard to find.
 
In my culture it matters, if you have the reputation of a whore (male or female) it's going to be slim pickens when you decide you're finally done having your fun unless you go marry outside the culture and make mutt babies with no cultural identity or go marry another nasty castoff like yourself and live shamefully ever after. I'm not going to claim it matters to the same degree for men that it does for women but it definitely plays, your actions have consequences.
 
Mrs TexasJenn said:
I've had friends of all kinds, ranging from highly promiscuous to cradle Christian virgins. No woman I've ever known has been impressed by promiscuity in a man or viewed it as a sign of social status.
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That is because women are not honest or even when they attempt to be honest are actually confused about what they really want.

Never look at women say instead look at their actions.

How many virgin women actually end up marrying a virgin man? My guess would be that most virgin women end up marrying non-virgin men irrespective of what women say they want. What women say they want and what they are actually attracted to are two different things. In general most virgin men do not have the confidence or game to get a virgin bride.

Furthermore it goes against basic biology to treat virginity in men and women as being equal. When a woman has sex with a man it produces a lot of oxytocin (the pair bonding chemical) whereas the oxytocin production in men is much more muted. But in men having sex with women boosts testosterone (higher testosterone indirectly makes men more attractive to women). If a woman has sex with a lot of men her oxytocin production gets impaired and its much more difficult to pair bond with a man meaning she is no longer suitable for a serious relationship.

The same thing doesn't happen to anywhere near the same extent in men. Its an order of magnitude difference between men and women. This all goes back to mating strategy because women can only mate with one man at a time they have natural tendencies towards hypergamy (monkey branching) whereas men can impregnated an unlimited amount of females they have natural tendencies towards polygamy (harems, mistresses, etc).

Hence women who cheat are more likely to ditch their current boyfriend or husband for the other man who they perceive to be superior (if the situation permits them to do so) whereas men are more likely to stay with their girlfriend or wife and just keep the other woman as a sidepiece. All of these biological differences mean a man can truly love his wife and still cheat (visit an escort, etc) whereas if a woman cheats it means she doesn't truly love her husband.
 
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Mrs TexasJenn said:
What's impressive to a non-promiscuous woman is a man who could have lots of sexual partners, but doesn't because he's discerning and has a higher mission.
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This is another irrational belief of women. As guys like Myron from Fresh and Fit have pointed out. Men don't work for years on end to build their value so they can sleep with only one woman. Women are gifted with their value and never had to anything to earn it whereas men have to earn their value in the world. If a man worked for years on end to be desirable to a wide range of women (a privilege which you were just given that you were attractive to a wide range of men) then after putting in all of that work he is not going to be satisfied with just one woman. The man played the game on hard mode so he gets the privileges that come from winning the game on hard mode (compared to a woman who layed the game on easy mode).
 
Mrs TexasJenn said:
Women's thoughts or cares about things are mostly irrational? That's not my experience. Looking at my own parents
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This is why debating with women is so tiring.

typical man: "most women are xyz and do abc"
typical woman response: "Yeah but I am not like that and neither is my mum or my sister"

There are over 8 billion people on this planet when talking about the behaviour of humans as a whole on average what you do or your mum does are completely irrelevant to the equation.

The whole thing is so tiring and cliche. This is why debating with women is always pointless.
 
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FrancisK said:
In my culture it matters, if you have the reputation of a whore (male or female) it's going to be slim pickens when you decide you're finally done having your fun unless you go marry outside the culture and make mutt babies with no cultural identity or go marry another nasty castoff like yourself and live shamefully ever after. I'm not going to claim it matters to the same degree for men that it does for women but it definitely plays, your actions have consequences.
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Men have always needed a sexual outlet but this system was designed to stop women being ruined as potential wives for other men. Otherwise all the women would sleep with chads and no average men would be able to get virgin wives. In the old system as far as I know of most women would remain virgins until marriage and their would be a small number of women who would be official prostitutes and men could visit these prostitutes until they got married as it was understood that men have sexual needs which are far more pressing than women. I am just wondering if it was originally the same in your culture? Or were men always expected to be virgins until marriage?

Men remaining virgins until marriage can be viable but only in a situation where men get married super young (16 - 20).
 
Australia Sucks said:
As guys like Myron from Fresh and Fit have pointed out. Men don't work for years on end to build their value so they can sleep with only one woman.
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Speak for yourself.

Myron is good at pointing out some things, but in the end he is headed towards bad things in the way that he is personally approaching women. He has some very limited beliefs that will hold him back from finding a unicorn. You can generalize about "most women" fairly accurately but you can also bet that there are some great ones out there still that will completely break the mold and destroy the negative stereotypes of the normie pack. And these types of unicorns will scoff at a guy like Myron who has a bull pen in full rotation while expecting his harem to be monogamous to him. Myron has made it publicly known that he is damaged goods. He is one permanent STD (herpes, HPV, hep C, etc.) away from being brought to his knees and being forced to retire. And at the rate he is plowing through poonanny in south Florida that will most likely be sooner than later. You think Roosh went through an existential crisis, wait till' you get a load of what Myron is headed for in the next decade or so.
 
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