US Border Crisis

Samseau said:
This is probably done so some liberal judge won't release him back onto the streets.
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It also likely happens all across the USA. It's absolute lunacy that this multi-tiered level of strategic dishonesty has to be implemented just so that "justice" can be somewhat delivered without alerting the programming of brainwashed/deranged/actually racist people with the unfortunate authority to decide the fate of a person.
 




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Not sure if this is the right thread but here we are

nypost.com

Eric Adams becomes first sitting NYC mayor indicted in historic federal probe — claims feds persecuting him over migrant crisis

“If I am charged, I am innocent, and I will fight this with every ounce of my strength and spirit.”
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Eric Adams the nyc mayor, was indicted about an hour ago for apparent campaign finance fraud, apparently took money from the Turkish government in exchange for a Turkish consulate in Manhattan.

Adams says it’s because he spoke out against unlimited immigration recently and this is his punishment

My other thought is he maybe has ties to Diddy and is one of the first dominos to fall.

Regardless, as a New Yorker I have full confidence that he will be replaced by the most corrupt/incompetent/globalist (((stooge))) that the city can find. Basically the second coming of deBlassio. I’m absolutely convinced of this
 
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eradicator said:
Not sure if this is the right thread but here we are

nypost.com

Eric Adams becomes first sitting NYC mayor indicted in historic federal probe — claims feds persecuting him over migrant crisis

“If I am charged, I am innocent, and I will fight this with every ounce of my strength and spirit.”
nypost.com nypost.com

Eric Adams the nyc mayor, was indicted about an hour ago for apparent campaign finance fraud, apparently took money from the Turkish government in exchange for a Turkish consulate in Manhattan.

Adams says it’s because he spoke out against unlimited immigration recently and this is his punishment

My other thought is he maybe has ties to Diddy and is one of the first dominos to fall.

Regardless, as a New Yorker I have full confidence that he will be replaced by the most corrupt/incompetent/globalist (((stooge))) that the city can find. Basically the second coming of deBlassio. I’m absolutely convinced of this
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Adams gave Diddy the key to the city last year, so they have at least some connection.



Adams isn't perfect, he's still a democrat, but he strikes me as an "old school New York" type, relatively sensible and based, and willing to speak out against immigration. He's signaling he's not going to resign or step down - we'll see what happens.





I imagine they've been trying to get rid of him for some time for not towing the globalist line. Maybe the Diddy fall was the last straw.

Meanwhile, as you say, his potential replacement is the worst kind of soy boy communist/globalist.

 
Shaquilleoatmeal said:

“Fifty-eight percent of Americans support deporting illegal immigrants, but that figure drops to 40% when asked about illegal immigrants with jobs and no criminal record, according to a new poll.”

@It_Is_My_Time

He’s right, sympathy for “legal immigrants” is poison. They’re not demonized and given sympathy which makes them de facto citizens.
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I would be opposed to deporting legal immigrants who have a job and no criminal record. If they play by the rules by which they were admitted, I can't see deporting them. I'm fine with rounding up all the illegal immigrants and shipping them out. I'm fine with holding all the legal immigrants to the letter of the law as well, and deporting them if they don't meet all the regulations.

I would also cut off almost all legal immigration going forward. My approach would clear out large numbers of them right away, and make sure all the ones that remain behave themselves, or else.
 
But how does this counter European Genocide in Non Segregated, "Globo-Ho-Mo DieVersity is our Strength" Schools where children will be taught that Miscegenation is normal since their is No Political Winds pushing for Self Determination thus Segregation because so many folks drank the Kool aid?
 
InspCallahan said:
But how does this counter European Genocide in Non Segregated, "Globo-Ho-Mo DieVersity is our Strength" Schools where children will be taught that Miscegenation is normal since their is No Political Winds pushing for Self Determination thus Segregation because so many folks drank the Kool aid?
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Heres a possible quickly written out scenario.

Anyone who came into the US seeking "asylum" will be given these terms: 3 year max stay. No welfare, no benefits of any kind. Failure to comply with result in extreme fines for the issuer as first offense. Jail time for anything after that. All jobs pay 2 bucks above minimum wage for that state as comp for no benefits. Santuary cities and blue areas of states only will be where they're allowed to stay. There will be a legal limit to how many can be in one area and workplace at a time. There will be a recorded count by multiple agencies of how many come and go at each location and workplace.

Create a three tiered citizenship system.

Native- For babies born to either to two native citizens, or one native citizen and legal resident. Both parents must have been present in the USA for at least the past 18 years. All rights as citizens now.

Naturalized- for legal residents looking to become citizens. Same benefits as legal residents now. May vote 7 years after obtaining citizenship. Limited benefit welfare rights.

Third tier - children of non legal residents or non citizens. Can never vote, can never apply for benefits of any kind for themselves or parents or family. Has the right to work and reside inside the US.
 
Here’s The circle I’m trying to square. All this resettlement money comes from somewhere, where? I already know the issues at the table, but why are the powers that be solving it this way through mass migration? Is the issue the work ethic? Or is it companies want to pay $9/h. Are jobs pissy because indigenous Americans with deep roots in the country just smoke pot all day and watch sportsball. Or do they want to crash the cost of labor? An alternate solution if they just want cheap labor - this isn’t a joke - bear with me here, is to adopt the Nordic model. These jobs can pay $9/h to migrant labor because of all the government help. What if we just reallocated all the help migrants get to the American people so they could work for cheap? They way the Nordic model works is they don’t tax the businesses and corporations which allows them to pay the workers $20 an hour. Leftists love to tote this model. However they forget America has high corporate taxes. The Netherlands corporate taxes are non existent and places like Sweden are more economically free than the US. Correct me if I’m wrong if anyone on here is from one of those countries. Where their services get their funding is that $20h is being taxed at 45% so your take home pay is $11. If the problem is businesses want to save cash, I seriously believe this is an option to explore. If the work ethic is an issue, maybe this should be discussed on the national stage.

The reason I think the Nordic model will never fly in America is because the poor get everything on a silver plate and don’t have to contribute anything. I have up close personal experience with the way it works in America. Ironically the left talks about the rich paying their fair share, but what about the non rich? The poors would go ape if they found out they’d have to start paying their fair share like in Sweden. “Here’s your $20 mr burger flipper? Oh I’m sorry, we need half of that for the “free” college you’re not smart enough to attend, you need to test for your seat. And healthcare, transit, etc. oh and is that a tv in your house? Yeah there’s a fee for that”
 
Thomas More said:
I would be opposed to deporting legal immigrants who have a job and no criminal record. If they play by the rules by which they were admitted, I can't see deporting them. I'm fine with rounding up all the illegal immigrants and shipping them out. I'm fine with holding all the legal immigrants to the letter of the law as well, and deporting them if they don't meet all the regulations.

I would also cut off almost all legal immigration going forward. My approach would clear out large numbers of them right away, and make sure all the ones that remain behave themselves, or else.
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No criminal record?

As soon as they illegally crossed the border they are a criminal. Just because the system refuses to enforce the law, doesn't mean they aren't breaking laws.
 
homersheineken said:
No criminal record?

As soon as they illegally crossed the border they are a criminal. Just because the system refuses to enforce the law, doesn't mean they aren't breaking laws.
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I am saying this for legal immigrants only. Legal immigrants are not illegal. The post you quoted clearly says I would round up and ship off the illegals.
 
SiverFox said:
You can either have a welfare state or an open border. You can't have both. Of course having neither would be best.
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Above I posted about adopting the Nordic model and closing the border. The problem is all the Arctic countries with the exception of Russia tried this. It resulted in birth rates crashing. Now they all have an aging indigenous population, and that model I described needs funding. So Swedens busy importing Somalis and Canadas bringing in Indians in an attempt to keep the thing floating by creating a new tax base? The US unlike our counterparts still has a birthdate above replacement. Closing the border and adopting a larger welfare state to pacify the companies could crash our birth rate. I think the main motive after thinking about it a bit last night is companies wanting cheap, obedient labor that can’t walk away. A mistreated American worker with a good family, popularity and a social circle, OR some loner with a pool of savings can tell an abusive boss to kick rocks. A guy with deportation being held over his head does what he’s told. Companies love that. It’s why we have student loans in the US. If we were smart we’d have free higher education but only those who can use it to get to go. SATs, grades, etc would determine who gets college. But companies love an indebted workforce. Another reason is like our European counterparts, Americas leadership wants to expand the tax base. But they want to do that not to make up for a gap in the welfare state, but they want to keep the empire going to protect our special little friends. The US could solve a lot of our problems by ending the Empire.
 
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