She "should" be a grandmother at 42? Slow down dude, again wasn't talking about her fertility....
Doesn't mean it isn't also constantly discussed, by you especially the guy obsessed with it who says no girl wants him.
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The Destruction of Modern Women
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She "should" be a grandmother at 42? Slow down dude, again wasn't talking about her fertility....
Doesn't mean it isn't also constantly discussed, by you especially the guy obsessed with it who says no girl wants him.
The reality is if she was truly happy and having a good time she would not bother posting in social media to try and rub it in other people's faces. She would just be enjoying her Christmas socializing........
Yes.
You were stating that she is not ugly, and that men who think women have inflated standards today should consider her a potential partner, or else they are hypocrites by having standards at all.
I said in response that whether or not she is ugly is irrelevant because she is too old. To consider her a potential partner would, in fact, be deeply sick and unnatural. I'm not sure what you're not understanding here.
I have never said anything of the sort. I have stated that MY standards (mainly in terms of the moral character I look for in a woman) are too high, and that I do not think I can realistically make something work with the women who meet them.
This does make me a bit sad, but I rarely think about the matter. I would not say I am obsessed with this. I don't understand where your sudden hostility is coming from.
It's nice to think about how things should be but we also have to consider the real world we actually live in, I doubt there are many 42 year old grandmothers in the western world save for some very broken families in bad situations.
I'm not being hostile at all brother I'm just offering some perspective.
I did not say she should be considered a suitable partner, i said she isn't ugly and guys who say that women's standards are too high shouldn't be calling her ugly, that is what is hypocritical.
Are you not the guy who has stated that because of your autism you've resigned yourself to not finding a mate? If not then I apologize as I am mistaken.
42 is old enough that, had she conceived children when she was 20 years old, which was not so uncommon back in 2002, her children would already be 22, which would make them zoomers. Zoomers are a lot more religious than previous generations and are having children fairly young, I would say. I don't think it's unreasonable to say she should be a grandma at her age, even in these sick times we live in.
If you look back on the conversation about that woman, I think you'll find that no one called her ugly. I went out of my way to say that she is not ugly. I merely said that she has bitter and dead eyes, as all childless women her age do.
That was me, but I didn't say no girl wants me. Just that my standards are high and my autism makes me unable to compete for the women who meet them, as they have no lack of suitors.
I recognize that the post you're referring to was too much of a pathetic "woe is me" thing. I may or may not have come off like a total faggot. My sincere apologies.
Ever since I've started going to church, I've met many people that get married and start having families in their early 20s. So a 42 year old grandmother wouldn't be surprising, but I'd say 45-50 is more common.
Do you personally know any 42 year old grandmothers or grandfathers?
I actually know one - a woman who worked for me when I had a restaurant business. However in her case it wasn't because of her and her daughter having a virtuous and "based" view on marriage and child-bearing. It's because she had a child out of wedlock early on in her life and then her daughter as a teen went to a party and got knocked up by a guy that later went to jail.
In the contrast, the people I do know who actually go to church and had stayed chaste until marriage and did all the right things tend to get married in their mid to late 20s and they don't typically have kids right away either. Also the husband and wife in these marriages are pretty much around the same age. I can't think of one where the age gap was more than 4 years and in one case the wife was actually older than the husband by 1-2 years. I know a couple who served together in a worship band who got married in their early 20s about 1-2 years ago and they have yet to have kids though I did see the wife posting a IG story about having baby fever after spending some time with the baby of someone she knows from church. As I was typing this I just remembered that I know someone who did end have a a kid in his early 20s but that was because he didn't follow the teachings on pre-marital sex and accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant.
There's some guys on this forum that are lusting for the 15+ year age gap with the virgin wife under age 23 but even in these religious circles where people have conservative views on marriage such as not having pre-marital sex you are going to be very hard pressed to find that. There ARE virgin women and in greater numbers then you'll find in the secular world (though I wouldn't say they are the majority) but they aren't looking for husbands that are more then 15+ years older than them. For that you'll have to go to the second/third world.
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Same here, the only people I know who were grandparents at that age were either born 70 years ago in third world countries because the life expectancy of the people before them was half what it is now or they live in the projects and trailers. Mind you I come from a culture where people married young and still marry young, even still none of them are going to be grandparents at 42.
So how about we start living in the real world...or better yet hold to standards that we actually held ourselves to.
I don't know about 42, but yes for in their 40s. I also know of several younger people that got married shortly after high school and started a family. So while being a 42 year old grandmother is not the norm, it is still possible based on the people I'm interacting with.
Thank you brother
I don't agree with the usage (accusation?) that men who seek young wives are "lusting" for women 15 years younger, but I do agree with your analysis here. Even for some spiritual fathers, and this could be my pretext or paranoia given what I know about humans and certain life experiences, I feel like a lot of really good and dedicated priests often are old enough to have been married at 25 or younger and don't really know how things are now, or they are one of the younger crowd that happened to have a healthy upbringing and somehow was a college sweetheart marriage (read: still married someone early in life). While both men will have wisdom and understanding of life and marriage, they can't really appreciate that context of why a man would bother getting married unless to a young woman, and it wasn't the man's fault largely in the modern era.
As a result, I've stated that one must go to other places where a culture has a different take or understanding. I just don't find that anyone who "argues" why a successful older man shouldn't have a desire for a young wife, is reasonable. It will literally be an argument based on some "commonality" or generational link nonsense. The proof that this stuff is totally silly, and even contradictory, is that they know very well how hard to deal with a lot of their wives are, over the years. And that men and women aren't really interested in the same things anyway, so why would a man bother, as if he's going to have some great conversation with his wife about the world, politics, finances, etc.
This article was linked under tim carney twitter post from above.
women freezing eggs have anywhere from 0 to 60% chance of being able to get pregnant with them.
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women freezing eggs have anywhere from 0 to 60% chance of being able to get pregnant with them.
Cruel twist of fate for single woman who froze her eggs in her 30s to ‘free her career’
Last year, with her 45th birthday looming and no sign of Mr. Right, Brigitte Adams excitedly unfroze the 11 eggs and selected a sperm donor
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Thank God a child didn't have to have her as a mother.This article was linked under tim carney twitter post from above.
women freezing eggs have anywhere from 0 to 60% chance of being able to get pregnant with them.
Cruel twist of fate for single woman who froze her eggs in her 30s to ‘free her career’
Last year, with her 45th birthday looming and no sign of Mr. Right, Brigitte Adams excitedly unfroze the 11 eggs and selected a sperm donor
I remember this story back on RVF... Sad, but a crisis averted.
"Adams was not pregnant, and her chances of carrying her genetic child had just dropped to near zero. She remembers screaming like “a wild animal,” throwing books, papers, her laptop — and collapsing to the ground."
You can't have women doing pet projects not even trying to get a glimpse of even remote biological selection (one night stand) or a father around. It's lower than sick.
It says in the article "with her 45th birthday looming and no sign of Mr. Right"
How many Mr. Rights did she pass up on throughout the years? And probably for the most idiotic reasons. Thankfully all those guys dodged a bullet.
How many Mr. Rights did she pass up on throughout the years? And probably for the most idiotic reasons. Thankfully all those guys dodged a bullet.
I was going to comment something along these lines.
She's far from a 10, but if she had reasonable standards someone probably would have given her a look.
When will these delusional women realise that Mr. Right has his pick of women half their age?
No... better not even think of lowering standards, just get a sperm donor instead...