The China Thread

Reagan and his third world invasion is the reason we are in this mess. If you think removing some regulations, which will never be allowed by the people who really run this country today, is going to reverse the trend of population replacement, you are in for a rude awakening. If you replace hard working, intelligent, noble 100 IQ people with 85 IQ scam artists, you get a country that will resemble countries run by 85 IQ scam artists.
Reagan did an amnesty to anti communists right wing immigrants. It was a mistake. But people were already inside US. And i believe he criminalized hiring illegals.

Reagan won. He was a winner. He would wipe the floor with commies.
 
What are you talking about? We are sinking our economy and sending billions to Ukraine to perpetuate a war that is only being pushed to attack Russia and Russian interests. We spend trillions a year around the globe just to mess with China and Russia. So, if China attacked another country, we would send trillions more to mercenaries to attack them. Our entire economy is destroyed because of fighting these battles, and that is without China directly engaging someone.
The way you been writing you seem to have been implying that the west (Or NATO as you said initially) would actually fight to defend against Chinese invasion of random third world countries. Now you are back tracking and saying you are just talking about aid. This is a common issue with you, you'll make some crazy out of this world claim and then when challenged you'll back off when you realize you can't defend your position. "Tel Aviv won't exist - oh well it still only exists because the Iranians are being honorable and backing off" "NATO will defend Vietnam against a Chinese invasion - oh I meant to say the west when I said NATO" " China isn't taking the land of third world nations because white people will fight back - uh by fighting back really meant they'll send big aid packages"

Also a weird part of your logic: China is waiting for the west to become more third world before they attack to take the land since strong countries will take over weak countries yet they won't attack countries that are already third world. There's counties that are already in the sort of condition that you claim the west will be in a few decades yet there's no indications China is building up for an invasion of these countries. Even if we grant your crazy premises to be true and follow your own logic it still doesn't lead to the results you claim are inevitable.

Also to reiterate, the way you have been writing on this forum implies that the west is already too weak to resist China. See your many posts about collapse economies of the west and how Israel/US has already lost to Iran (a country that is way weaker than China) and how Western technology is already ruined from H1B1 engineers and how China has already lapped the US on the technology race.
 
Reagan did an amnesty to anti communists right wing immigrants. It was a mistake. But people were already inside US. And i believe he criminalized hiring illegals.

Reagan won. He was a winner. He would wipe the floor with commies.
Reagan was just another puppet and as time moves forward, it is evident what a complete fraud he was. And the "days of Reagan" will never come back with a whole new demographic.
 
The way you been writing you seem to have been implying that the west (Or NATO as you said initially) would actually fight to defend against Chinese invasion of random third world countries. Now you are back tracking and saying you are just talking about aid. This is a common issue with you, you'll make some crazy out of this world claim and then when challenged you'll back off when you realize you can't defend your position. "Tel Aviv won't exist - oh well it still only exists because the Iranians are being honorable and backing off" "NATO will defend Vietnam against a Chinese invasion - oh I meant to say the west when I said NATO" " China isn't taking the land of third world nations because white people will fight back - uh by fighting back really meant they'll send big aid packages"

Also a weird part of your logic: China is waiting for the west to become more third world before they attack to take the land since strong countries will take over weak countries yet they won't attack countries that are already third world. There's counties that are already in the sort of condition that you claim the west will be in a few decades yet there's no indications China is building up for an invasion of these countries. Even if we grant your crazy premises to be true and follow your own logic it still doesn't lead to the results you claim are inevitable.

Also to reiterate, the way you have been writing on this forum implies that the west is already too weak to resist China. See your many posts about collapse economies of the west and how Israel/US has already lost to Iran (a country that is way weaker than China) and how Western technology is already ruined from H1B1 engineers and how China has already lapped the US on the technology race.
We already fight the Chinese. We spent trillions around the globe attacking Chinese interests economically and via proxy wars.

Are you just not aware of this? Are you in favor of third world immigration into the west? You work so hard to prove a point that most here are already aware is not accurate.
 
Why would the west defend Vietnam when they aren't even willing to fight in Ukraine which is right at their door step?

I agree third world immigration is weakening the west. What I don't agree with is your insistence that this will lead to a Chinese occupation since countries that aren't merely importing the third world but ARE the third world are not at risk of invasion. Your contention is that a country with too little white people will fall to the Chinese and the Chinese will definitely take their countries yet these countries which are composed of 95+ % are at no risk of Chinese invasion.

If you are going to go back to saying it's because at the present moment the west will fight to oppose the Chinese then I'll point out again how Europeans aren't even willing to fight to defend Ukraine and how many of them aren't even willing to fight to defend their own countries from mass migration. Given all of these conditions your "the strong will always take the land" law means these Chinese conquests should have happened already.

You also have post after post about how the US military is already in shambles and behind Chinese technology and is unable to stand up the Chinese. In your own posts you have already indicated that in your view the gap between China and the west is already big enough where the west can't really put up resistance. European military are even weaker the the US military so they wouldn't be able to stand up to China either. By your own reasoning, the scenario that you claim will happen is 30 years is already here. Yet there is no signs of Chinese world conquest coming.
All this talk about Vietnam is triggering repressed memories of my youth. Please provide trigger warnings.
 
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We already fight the Chinese. We spent trillions around the globe attacking Chinese interests economically and via proxy wars.

Are you just not aware of this? Are you in favor of third world immigration into the west? You work so hard to prove a point that most here are already aware is not accurate.
More strange IIMT tier logic: if you don't agree with his strange Sinophile theory of the supreme Han Chinese conquering the glove it somehow means you support third world immigration to the West. For third parties reading this, please note this as an example of mind exhibiting patterns of thought that is typically associated with schizophrenia: seeing strange obscure connections between things that have no actual connection with each other.

Also another example of grandoise IIMT claims getting shrunk down to something more plain when he is confronted: a world war between China and the west that he is claiming is going to happen or is about to happen is now and will result in whole countries being reduced to fertilizer is downgraded to 'well we spend money to mess with them!" If this is the all "NATO" can do to oppose the Chinese doesn't this mean they already are unable to resist the Chinese and therefore we should already see them taking the lands of weaker countries?

As for "You work so hard to prove a point that most here are already aware is not accurate." That applies to you since most of the responses of other posters here about your posts about how China will invade Ireland eventually is them expressing bafflement and asking you to explain how it's supposed to happen and asking for reasons for why it's going to happen with the only reason you can come up with 'the strong country will take the land of weaker countries' which I have shown isn't actually happening.
 
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More strange IIMT tier logic: if you don't agree with his strange Sinophile theory of the supreme Han Chinese conquering the glove it somehow means you support third world immigration to the West. For third parties reading this, please note this as an example of mind exhibiting patterns of thought that is typically associated with schizophrenia: seeing strange obscure connections between things that have no actual connection with each other.

Also another example of grandoise IIMT claims getting shrunk down to something more plain when he is confronted: a world war between China and the west that he is claiming is going to happen or is about to happen is now and will result in whole countries being reduced to fertilizer is downgraded to 'well we spend money to mess with them!" If this is the all "NATO" can do to oppose the Chinese doesn't this mean they already are unable to resist the Chinese and therefore we should already see them taking the lands of weaker countries?
So, you just refuse to answer both questions. I will let the readers not only decide but think back on this conversation as things in the west continue to crumble and China continues to make technology advances.
 
I will also ask readers to think about whether there is a logical connection between thinking China isn't going to take over the world and supporting massive third world immigration which I have made clear I don't support despite IIMT claiming I haven't answered the question. I will also point readers to past posts where IIMT claimed China will invade Ireland and when asked how it's going to happen couldn't provide any response beside "strong take weak land" and "more shiny tech in future' and let the reader decide is this is a sign of a stable mind making sober judgements.

 
Given the way IIMt has is posting in that screen shot I can't tell if 'they' refers to China or - more sinisterly - Big Fertilizer


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Looooll. China has ports in every country. And they are ruthless. Westerners arent saints. But chinese are a different level. There was a user in RVF who had actually lived in China who said aliens never contacted earth because of chinese.
This is true and the bolded is the funniest things I've read in a long time.
They don´t push free trade. This is too naive. Nobody pushes free trade to be fair. They push their interests. Try to open a company in China and come back.
Fact- they practice mercantilism and have 2 sets of books. One for the CCP and one for the foreign market
 
Looooll. China has ports in every country. And they are ruthless. Westerners arent saints. But chinese are a different level. There was a user in RVF who had actually lived in China who said aliens never contacted earth because of chinese.

The aliens have been too worried about the Chinese stealing all their spaceship IPs.

Commander Zgiff to his lieutenant : "skip this solar system, Gorff. I heard about these yellow ones, you land there and they will just flood the galactic market!"


They are the ones pushing that filth into in the west. With jews accomplices. And western elites inertia.

"ThE CCP oWns HoLLyWoOd!!
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With European colonialism there were benefits for the Africans. From China, not so much.
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I don't think that is true, for two reasons:

1- The Chinese build infrastructure, their development model is to acquire local natural resources in exchange for turnkey infrastructure projects (roads, dams, powerplants, railways/trains, highways, housing, universities, factories etc).

The ((western)) model is plain usury - send piles of cash to the government for billion dollar loans supposed to go towards building something, or a big project. The money gets pilfered, the country gets saddled with crippling debt, the project doesn't get done. This is by design, as these failed countries have to give away their resources to pay for debt that they need to constantly roll and that can never get rid off, and as long as they stay undeveloped and indebted, they will sell their resources for pennies on the dollar.

2- The Chinese WANT Africa to develop, they want to create a big local consumer market for their cheap appliances, tractors, phones, bikes, cars etc, and they ultimately want to outsource their lower-end manufacturing there using cheap local labor. It's a win-win proposition.

It's a win for Europe too, if those African countries develop, the locals stay put.
 
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Exhibit #471. The Changs have gotten their hands on highly classified and critical US defense technology yet again, this time through the Israeli subsidiary and BFF the UAE. US intelligence has obtained proof that in 2022-2023 the Emirati AI giant G-42 leaked vital and highly classified US military data to Chinese SOE Huawei. This happened in the direct wake of another recent Israeli-Chang scandal, also related to selling/handing over vital critical defense technology to the Chinese. Obviously none of the 'alt-right' media whores seem to be interested in this, total shocker. The only good thing is that the Trump Administration has put an immediate stop on these shenanigans, and earlier this year the Emirati Emir was confronted and put on the spot by big T himself with some serious threats to boot. Also notice the gigantic gap between empirical reality outlaid below and the increasingly bizarro wet farts of CCP whisperers in this thread, pure factfree psychosis vibes.


'The Financial Times reports US intelligence have obtained information that the UAE has passed critical defense technology to Huawei, which assisted the Chinese in developing extended range air-to-air missile systems, thus giving the Chinese fighters advantage over its American counterparts.

UAE-based AI giant G-42 was used to upgrade long-range missiles fired from fighter jets. The sensitive US information G-42 passed onto the Chinese helped upgrade the PL-15 and PL-17 missiles.

The intelligence findings are similar to that of UAE's ally Israel, which in the past has provided the Chinese vital US data on the Sidewinder and Patriot missile systems, as well as aided the Chinese J-10 jet program through handing over highly classified US military tech.'


How US intelligence linked UAE tech to China’s missile upgrades
Washington debated whether its Gulf ally was drifting into Beijing’s orbit after learning that Emirati tech may have helped China extend the range of its fighter-jet missiles.


The intelligence sparked debate in Washington about whether the UAE — long a critical US ally hosting American bases — was edging closer to Beijing.

American intelligence agencies concluded in 2022 that the United Arab Emirates had provided Huawei with technology later used by China to upgrade its long-range air-to-air missiles. According to six people familiar with the findings, US officials believed that G42 — Abu Dhabi’s flagship artificial-intelligence company — transferred software that optimized missile flight paths. The data suggested that the technology improved China’s PL-15 and PL-17 missiles, giving the People’s Liberation Army a range advantage over American aircraft, the Financial Times reported.

G42 and Huawei deny US claims

G42, whose investors include Microsoft, Silver Lake, and the UAE’s sovereign fund Mubadala, called the allegations “false and defamatory,” insisting that it had never provided proprietary or military-related software to Huawei or China’s military. The company said Huawei had acted only as a commercial cloud-infrastructure vendor, and that all business ties ended in October 2023. Huawei also denied any transfer of technology from G42, calling the US claims “entirely untrue.”

A wider concern about UAE–China ties

The intelligence sparked debate in Washington about whether the UAE — long a critical US ally hosting American bases — was edging closer to Beijing. “Intel was flashing red,” said one former US official, describing concerns that G42 and the Emirati tech sector were “drifting into China’s orbit.” The issue became so sensitive that the White House considered adding G42 to the Commerce Department’s entity list, which would have effectively cut it off from US technology.

Diplomatic pressure and assurances

The Biden administration dispatched senior officials to Abu Dhabi in early 2023, warning National Security Adviser Sheikh Tahnoon bin Zayed that the UAE had to choose between US and Chinese partnerships in artificial intelligence. Then–commerce secretary Gina Raimondo reportedly told Emirati officials it was “one strike and you’re out.” Following months of negotiations, G42 agreed to remove Huawei equipment from its data centres and pivot its AI cooperation toward American companies.

Amos Hochstein, Biden’s global energy adviser at the time, said the UAE “acted immediately” whenever concerns were raised, though some US security officials remained sceptical about its transparency.

China’s military advantage and US caution

Analysts said the suspected technology transfer underscored how China’s defence industry had overtaken the US in certain missile systems. “The PL-15 and PL-17 leapfrogged their US equivalents in range and seeker technology,” said a former CIA expert on China. While no laws appear to have been violated, US officials warned that the incident highlighted the risks of dual-use technology flowing through global AI partnerships.

Under Trump, cooperation resumes — cautiously

Relations improved under the Trump administration, which has embraced Abu Dhabi as a partner in “Stargate,” a $500 billion AI project led by OpenAI to build massive US–UAE data centres. But export-control hurdles remain, with Washington slow to issue the licences needed for advanced chip transfers.

Some lawmakers continue to warn that deeper AI collaboration with the UAE must be contingent on clear distancing from China. “I welcome closer cooperation,” said Representative John Moolenaar, chair of the House China committee, “but it needs to come with the Emiratis verifiably and irreversibly choosing America.”



www.moneycontrol.com/world/how-us-intelligence-linked-uae-tech-to-china-s-missile-upgrades-article-13632554.html/amp
 
I don't think that is true, for two reasons:

1- The Chinese build infrastructure, their development model is to acquire local natural resources in exchange for turnkey infrastructure projects (roads, dams, powerplants, railways/trains, highways, housing, universities, factories etc).

The ((western)) model is plain usury - send piles of cash to the government for billion dollar loans supposed to go towards building something, or a big project. The money gets pilfered, the country gets saddled with crippling debt, the project doesn't get done. This is by design, as these failed countries have to give away their resources to pay for debt that they need to constantly roll and that can never get rid off, and as long as they stay undeveloped and indebted, they will sell their resources for pennies on the dollar.

2- The Chinese WANT Africa to develop, they want to create a big local consumer market for their cheap appliances, tractors, phones, bikes, cars etc, and they ultimately want to outsource their lower-end manufacturing there using cheap local labor. It's a win-win proposition.

It's a win for Europe too, if those African countries develop, the locals stay put.
From what I can tell, they want it modernize Africa for their own benefit, and they realize they cannot peacefully turn 75 IQ populations into people who can maintain modern infrastructure. They know eventually the gloves will have to come off, but for now they have to play nice.
 
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