The China Thread

[Get2choppaaa]

Entire classes of labor are being eliminated: truck driver, warehouse operators, dock workers, auto factory workers and so forth. Automation is also taking place in rural areas and in farming. China has a rural population of 500 million, about 35% of its population, vs around 20% (and dropping in the US and western countries). So they have a large reservoir of people they can "inject" into the cities to meet demand for labor.

Also, their young people today are far better educated that those from decades ago, and they are the drivers of their economy going forward. Their middle class is still going to be growing while their total population decreases, whereas in the West the populations already are educated middle class. Also retirement ages are very low in China, 55 for women and 60 for men, they can raise those to dampen the decease in their active population.

This is a good rundown as to why demographics are not the same problem in China as in say, Germany or S Korea.

Re: Population;

I was in the middle of posting that video but Cooper beat me to it.

To add their TPR challenge is not as bad as other nations. Several reasons -

• Large Absolute Number of Youth. ~700m under 40, so they get around 15-20 years of buffer to restructure their economy or resolve the TPR challenge before their workforce shrinkage becomes severe. Their higher education system is starting to overcome the West as well.
• Fiscal Burden of Elderly is 1/5 of those in the US and the medical costs are a fraction. So that aspect is out.
• Their Automation Industry is seriously really good so I believe it when it can be used to relief manual workforce challenges Cooper mentioned. I live in Hong Kong so I see it with my own eyes when I visit Shenzhen and the wider GBA area in the past 2 years.

Interesting video. I agree with first salvo that people like Peter Zeihan suggesting imminent collapse any day now is insane. That dude has posted total bullshit about shipping and trade and even microchips so one needs HUGE skepticism with those who suggest China is in that for short term or even immediate collapse.

They are absolutely in a better position than Europe or Japan so I do agree there.

That said, they'll take significant time to transition to any position where they'll some how be ready to storm the beaches of Martha's Vineyard. That is my overarching point...which is why I'm not concerned with them coming to genocide the West.... We do it to ourselves already.

 

[expectation]

That said, they'll take significant time to transition to any position where they'll some how be ready to storm the beaches of Martha's Vineyard. That is my overarching point...which is why I'm not concerned with them coming to genocide the West.... We do it to ourselves already.

I assure you they're not interested in that.

@It_Is_My_Time You bring that topic up plenty of times. Why don't you make an account on rednote/xhs and ask the folks there? There are actual Sino-Historians there that are willing to engage with you on that topic.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I assure you they're not interested in that.

@It_Is_My_Time You bring that topic up plenty of times. Why don't you make an account on rednote/xhs and ask the folks there? There are actual Sino-Historians there that are willing to engage with you on that topic.

They people certainly arent.

And for all the stupid shit talking here on the Internet... The US intel/military and logistics trains are vastly ahead of our near peers (China/Russia)

The CCP just wants elite capture and they are focused on economic warfare against the US (only able to be done by the hollowing of the Rust belt and Clinton /Bush favored nation status) and through the new Belt and Road initiative. . militarily they are building up their island and physical sphere.

I get a lot of input from Bannon on the non CCP Chinese post COVID and on this inner baseball and politics. From what I see there and what experiences I had with the Chinese people I worked with and even became friends with over a couple years in previous employment...most are good people just trying to keep their head down and survive. Just like all of us.

 

[Cooper]

They people certainly arent.

And for all the stupid shit talking here on the Internet... The US intel/military and logistics trains are vastly ahead of our near peers (China/Russia)

The CCP just wants elite capture and they are focused on economic warfare against the US (only able to be done by the hollowing of the Rust belt and Clinton /Bush favored nation status) and through the new Belt and Road initiative. . militarily they are building up their island and physical sphere.

I get a lot of input from Bannon on the non CCP Chinese post COVID and on this inner baseball and politics. From what I see there and what experiences I had with the Chinese people I worked with and even became friends with over a couple years in previous employment...most are good people just trying to keep their head down and survive. Just like all of us.

I like Bannon overall, especially his more recent output where he is starting to slowly (and very prudently) move away from the zioright, but he's not a reliable source on China as he is tight with the NTD/Epoch Times/Falun Gong crowd. You're just not going to get the real picture on China from guys like Gordon Chang, with whom Bannon is aligned.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

I like Bannon overall, especially his more recent output where he is starting to slowly (and very prudently) move away from the zioright, but he's not a reliable source on China as he is tight with the NTD/Epoch Times/Falun Gong crowd. You're just not going to get the real picture on China from guys like Gordon Chang, with whom Bannon is aligned.

I think you mean Miles Guo, who was his main funder of the War Room pandemic show...and influenced/funded a lot of his operation.

 

[magoo]

He had a Chinese roommate for 10 years. And so what does this tell us? It tells us that It Is My Time is a fake nationalist race traitor against white America who actively subsidizes white replacement by splitting the bills with Chicoms so that they can afford to invade our universities and housing markets. It also tells us that IIMT is a fearful neurotic jew who does not like change and values money over personal space and privacy. In other words, he is not part of the solution, but the actual problem. Can you imagine living with another man in the same apartment for 10 years? Who does this?

Just another chink in his armor.

Looll. A jew chinese fag? WTF?

People are underestimating chinese and China. Chinese are focused driven machines. They work 24h. What they lack in intelligence. And it´s true. They are not IQ gods like some retards dream of. They are actually not smart. But they make up by understanding human behavior and taking advantage of it. And they love risk. They have a peasants cunning mentality. Which is not bad for business.

It´s not NATO which is stopping China enslaving other countries. It´s western interests. A lot of wars in Africa were fought by west and russian interests. And if western rule goes and it´s minimal cosmetic idea of humanity. Chinese will be ruthless. They have no understanding of human dignity or justice. It´s a pure utilitarian mindset. They might make slavery legal again. Mark my words. In Africa if China rules slavery will be legal again. Mark Magoo words. Slavery will be legal in Africa.

I´ve dealt with wealthy yellows. They are ruthless. It´s win/lose with them. I like to steal them. What gives me the greatest joy is to scam a yellow. They think they won but they´re wallet is already in my pocket.

The problem is generally speaking westerners are commies. They have sheepish loser commie mentality. How they queued for the covid injections. Cool people to hang around with. True. But when it comes to business. To hard money. It´s a maze. Like communists. You don´t understand what they want. There´s a newly rich hippie sentiment prevalent. Ohh I don´t care about money because I´m doing a Pachabamba retreat in the desert. And they are so chicken shit. No risk. Everything must be perfect. Comfort is lovely. But it doesnt last without risk taking.

If you want to make money. Work with china. To make less money but enjoying life. GCC arabs are more and less middle ground. To have some fun and enjoy lunches etc. Working with westerners for little money. A friend of mine from a chamber of commerce. Used to call it the chinese business virus.

I think China already won. I don´t like it. I don´t wish it. But denying it it´s foolish. And unfortunately it will be miserable for westerners. I see quality of life seriously reducing and breaking society in two. Communism has broken western power. And it´s my opinion that enemies of the west are the ones poisoning our societies. With the help of jews. It´s Russia China Iran etc who are sabotaging the west. The third world migration was created by US jews and facilitated by Russia. Russia would have been so easy to manipulate into western interests. Of course when you are cutting children dicks it´s hard to convince youre the best plate on the table. The approach to Putin would be to reinstate Russia in all sport competitions. Dude loves sports. And after invite him to Sardegna Italy for the summer. And make him belong where he should. Europe. Flying b2 planes over his head was the stupidest shit imaginable. Whoever had that idea should be fired. Putin has to be pampered. Not threatened.

Nobody likes chinese. Nobody. If they succeed it´s because theres no other option. I can´t imagine the difference Russians are feeling from dealing from germans to yellows.

The Reagan movie is really great. Highly recommend. We need someone like him. I almost shed a tear watching that movie. How things were. And how shit theyve become.

Drop regulations and taxes. increase interest rates. How hard can this be. Pull back Russia to west. Isolate China. Trump had a misconception US could rule alone. He is an idiot. But probably is realizing the level of his retardness. His stupid tariffs not only effectively sanctioned US. Created a new tax for americans. And had the same time damaged the relationship with allies. Which he will need. Dumb orange boomer.

I despise people who wants west to lose. And praise enemies. Suicidal idiots. Im western. I want the west to win. But the fagness is too much encroached in this loser mentality with this stupid retarded comfort egalitarian communist environment regulations and taxes.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

I don't understand the Globalist China argument. It's just as biased as the opposite argument. Even more so.

There is no doubt that China being the best thing since sliced bread is a biased, starry-eyed position. No one is disputing that. The thing that favors this position is China's proven industrialization and successful venturing into megaprojects and high tech. This is what puts China ahead of the rest.

I'm not against pointing out that lots of Chinese peasants might be retarded, dirty simpletons. I actually think it's important to explore such things.

People focusing on one extreme, good or bad, do end up having an agenda, consciously or not.

The reality is dirty peasants are a product of their times. It's somewhat unfair to hold such things over people's heads. Just like the problems I carry were given to me by my era. In order for the "dirty peasant" argument to have significant weight, you have to prove to me that Chinese people are not capable of being anything more than that.

The reason the Chinese superpower argument is robust, is because it's not easy to do what they did or everyone else would do it. Yes, they got help and they stole IP. White people used to use child labor. Capitalism is dirty business. All is fair in love and war.

The reason it's good for China to be a superpower is for two reasons.

• We, normal people, want the whole world to be civilized. I don't want white people to share the planet with monkeys.
• It provides a biologically needed counterweight to white civilization. We need competition.

I understand it's scary to have another race be capable of peer-to-peer war but people need to suck it up.

I also think it's unfair to project western problems on the Chinese.

If the Chinese are pawns of the Jews, then so are Americans. You would think they can be afforded some sympathy for than, instead of scorn.

If the Chinese are globalists, which they kind of are, they haven't been proven to be the anti-human globalists we see in the west.

I don't see the Chinese pushing to ban meat, gay rights, race mixing, no kids, respecting islam, everyone be poor, etc.

The Chinese push "free trade" and obviously they're heavy into renewables.

People that keep suggesting China is some kind of globalist Barad-dûr need to expand on their position. I'm not taking it at face value.

I'm aware they're testing all kind of digital technologies and whatnot. Again, until proven to be nefarious in intent, they're essentially victims of Jewish schemes.

 

[magoo]

I don't understand the Globalist China argument. It's just as biased as the opposite argument. Even more so.

There is no doubt that China being the best thing since sliced bread is a biased, starry-eyed position. No one is disputing that. The thing that favors this position is China's proven industrialization and successful venturing into megaprojects and high tech. This is what puts China ahead of the rest.

What puts China ahead is the sabotaging they are making of western countries. And at the same time stealing knowledge. While the west believes they´re moral compass can be expanded worldwide. And are destroying their societies and economies with communist migration, feminism/gays, taxes and regulation.

I'm not against pointing out that lots of Chinese peasants might be retarded, dirty simpletons. I actually think it's important to explore such things.

People focusing on one extreme, good or bad, do end up having an agenda, consciously or not.

The reality is dirty peasants are a product of their times. It's somewhat unfair to hold such things over people's heads. Just like the problems I carry were given to me by my era. In order for the "dirty peasant" argument to have significant weight, you have to prove to me that Chinese people are not capable of being anything more than that.

They aren´t.

The reason the Chinese superpower argument is robust, is because it's not easy to do what they did or everyone else would do it. Yes, they got help and they stole IP. White people used to use child labor. Capitalism is dirty business. All is fair in love and war.

EU is backtracking on the IP stolen by China. Nexperia just got nationalized by the dutch government. And more though measures are to come. I expect now that the sentiment on jews is changing in the west. And we are getting broke. China will not be able to navigate so easily.

But I have to admit yellows are easier to do business. If you think of americans it´s FATCA. 2000 pages of regulations. China. Nothing. A fund would tell me americans paid 10x more of administrative fees because they gave much more compliance work. I dont deal with americans because of this. A french bank with offices in US could send clients. No thanks.

The reason it's good for China to be a superpower is for two reasons.

• We, normal people, want the whole world to be civilized. I don't want white people to share the planet with monkeys.
• It provides a biologically needed counterweight to white civilization. We need competition.

It´s China who is funding migration and Russia facilitating the migration invasion in west. As we speak Europe is debating how to stop the next migration wave Russia and Bielorussia are planning.

Parliamentary question | Weaponisation of migration by Russia and implications for EU security and border policy | E-001633/2025 | European Parliament

Question for written answer E-001633/2025 to the Commission Rule 144 Christine Anderson (ESN)

www.europarl.europa.eu

I understand it's scary to have another race be capable of peer-to-peer war but people need to suck it up.

China can only win by sabotage.

I also think it's unfair to project western problems on the Chinese.

If the Chinese are pawns of the Jews, then so are Americans. You would think they can be afforded some sympathy for than, instead of scorn.

Jews want China to destroy the west. And transfer power to asia. Western lunatic elites are going along because they are retard and believe it´s in their best interests. Like the nobles who funded commies in Russia and were later driving taxis in Paris. The ones that managed to escape red terror.

If the Chinese are globalists, which they kind of are, they haven't been proven to be the anti-human globalists we see in the west.

Looooll. China has ports in every country. And they are ruthless. Westerners arent saints. But chinese are a different level. There was a user in RVF who had actually lived in China who said aliens never contacted earth because of chinese.

I don't see the Chinese pushing to ban meat, gay rights, race mixing, no kids, respecting islam, everyone be poor, etc.

They are the ones pushing that filth into in the west. With jews accomplices. And western elites inertia.

The Chinese push "free trade" and obviously they're heavy into renewables.

They don´t push free trade. This is too naive. Nobody pushes free trade to be fair. They push their interests. Try to open a company in China and come back.

People that keep suggesting China is some kind of globalist Barad-dûr need to expand on their position. I'm not taking it at face value.

Go to China.

I'm aware they're testing all kind of digital technologies and whatnot. Again, until proven to be nefarious in intent, they're essentially victims of Jewish schemes.

They work with jews. But I think chinese will eat jews in the end. Chinese dont have christian empathy. When I mean eat. It´s cook them.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

The Chinese are by and large fairly intelligent people due to their civilization having undergone 4,000+ years or natural selection due to high social mobility.

I was into Chinese culture before I went over there: martial arts, medicine, religion and philosophy, so I love that part of China, but it's more like 2,500 years of promoting intelligence in select members of the management class, while organizing society into a frenetic anthill where genpop is so crushed together that they can't catch their breath long enough to think straight.

After being mauled by Communism for over 40 years, I think the Chinese have earned the benefits the country has reaped, but those all came from the West dumping trillions in cash, technology and training into the place.

I'm sure the locals are maximizing the productive results, and good for them, but the wealth has also amplified the sins of the ruling class and the rich.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

It´s China who is funding migration and Russia facilitating the migration invasion in west. As we speak Europe is debating how to stop the next migration wave Russia and Bielorussia are planning.

China can only win by sabotage.

Jews want China to destroy the west. And transfer power to asia. Western lunatic elites are going along because they are retard and believe it´s in their best interests. Like the nobles who funded commies in Russia and were later driving taxis in Paris. The ones that managed to escape red terror.


They are the ones pushing that filth into in the west. With jews accomplices. And western elites inertia.

I believe there's a psyop going on right now. It's not properly articulated, it's just bunch of contradictory arguments being purposely promoted online, to play on people's emotions and create a cold war mentality.

The psy-up fully expressed looks something like this:

• The Jews have been defeated and are irrelevant, because Trump is bombing narco-boats and doing tariffs. We need to focus on going to war with communist rogue states that are secretly subverting the west and doing everything bad under the sun.

First of all, the Jews have not been defeated. No one has been fired, not a single revolution has taken place in the western world.

Second of all, these "rogue" states are not an antithesis to western civilization. Russia is not an anti-European empire, despite the propaganda in Europe. The Chinese are not orthodox Marxists who hate money and capitalism. What that means is these rogue states do not have any fundamental motivation to do what you claim they're doing. The only motivation they have is "they're evil because they want to make money at our expense".

If you think about it that's a hilarious anti-communist argument.

However, there IS a scenario in which these "rogue" states do what you say they're doing. It's possible that the Jews control these "rogue" states or have powerful agents inside that do the Jewish dirty work using Russia's or China's signature. This is actually one of the reasons the Jews hate centralized power and will prevent it at every turn.

In your argumentation you flip between two arguments interchangeably.

You say:

• The Jews control Russia and China.
• Russia and China are evil rogue states who want to do evil on their own volition.

You got to pick. It can't be both.

 

[magoo]

I believe there's a psyop going on right now. It's not properly articulated, it's just bunch of contradictory arguments being purposely promoted online, to play on people's emotions and create a cold war mentality.

The psy-up fully expressed looks something like this:

• The Jews have been defeated and are irrelevant, because Trump is bombing narco-boats and doing tariffs. We need to focus on going to war with communist rogue states that are secretly subverting the west and doing everything bad under the sun.

The Jews have been defeated because there’s no more money left for they’re lunacy.
Israel is going to be given to the Arabs. Like Hong Kong was to yellows.

Venezuela is probably being attacked to replace Russia in oil production. India needs oil. They said it. The attack on Venezuela is aimed to weaken Russia. And replace them in oil trade by Venezuela. It has nothing to do with drugs. Russia will defend Venezuela. It’s strategic interests. Money and power.

First of all, the Jews have not been defeated. No one has been fired, not a single revolution has taken place in the western world.

There’s no money left for jews.

Second of all, these "rogue" states are not an antithesis to western civilization. Russia is not an anti-European empire, despite the propaganda in Europe.

Russia is Europe. But English people hate Russia.

The Chinese are not orthodox Marxists who hate money and capitalism.

They are a mix. They are pragmatic. utilitarian. And manipulative.

What that means is these rogue states do not have any fundamental motivation to do what you claim they're doing. The only motivation they have is "they're evil because they want to make money at our expense".

They’re motivation is weakening an adversary who wants to hurt them. By hurt I mean take control/plunder of their resources/wealth.

Europe due to jew and Anglo policies have antagonized Russia. And sooner or later China will follow. Antagonizing Russia was beyond retarded.

If you think about it that's a hilarious anti-communist argument.

However, there IS a scenario in which these "rogue" states do what you say they're doing. It's possible that the Jews control these "rogue" states or have powerful agents inside that do the Jewish dirty work using Russia's or China's signature. This is actually one of the reasons the Jews hate centralized power and will prevent it at every turn.

They don’t control Russia or China as they control west. But they have enough resources to do it. What they are doing is buying their ticket to the next powers. Why they are doing this? Maybe they believe the west has given its last breath. Read somewhere Kissinger didn’t agree with this.

Jews have no allegiance. They are an international group which can adapt and integrate any country.

In your argumentation you flip between two arguments interchangeably.

You say:

• The Jews control Russia and China.

Where did I write this? This is what you believe. Jews don’t control Russia and China. But can. Or at least they believe they can. Like they did thousands of time in history.

• Russia and China are evil rogue states who want to do evil on their own volition.

It’s not a question of evil. It’s real politics. Either they weaken us or we weaken them. We are adversaries in the search of control of assets and wealth. Russia could easily be brought back. The trade with russia was fair. Greedy retards wanted all. China I don’t think so. At least not with xijiping.

You got to pick. It can't be both.

Jews work with our adversaries to weaken the west through the transfer of tech and know how. And when there’s only a corpse left they will jump ship integrate and manipulate the new host country. Which I believe will be China.
US and Europe are trying to hold on to their last areas of influence.

 

[Get2choppaaa]

Looooll. China has ports in every country. And they are ruthless. Westerners arent saints. But chinese are a different level. There was a user in RVF who had actually lived in China who said aliens never contacted earth because of chinese.

This is true and the bolded is the funniest things I've read in a long time.

They don´t push free trade. This is too naive. Nobody pushes free trade to be fair. They push their interests. Try to open a company in China and come back.

Fact- they practice mercantilism and have 2 sets of books. One for the CCP and one for the foreign market

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Fact- they practice mercantilism and have 2 sets of books. One for the CCP and one for the foreign market

With European colonialism there were benefits for the Africans. From China, not so much.

 

[Cooper]

Looooll. China has ports in every country. And they are ruthless. Westerners arent saints. But chinese are a different level. There was a user in RVF who had actually lived in China who said aliens never contacted earth because of chinese.

The aliens have been too worried about the Chinese stealing all their spaceship IPs.

Commander Zgiff to his lieutenant : "skip this solar system, Gorff. I heard about these yellow ones, you land there and they will just flood the galactic market!"

They are the ones pushing that filth into in the west. With jews accomplices. And western elites inertia.

"ThE CCP oWns HoLLyWoOd!!

 

[Cooper]

With European colonialism there were benefits for the Africans. From China, not so much.
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I don't think that is true, for two reasons:

1- The Chinese build infrastructure, their development model is to acquire local natural resources in exchange for turnkey infrastructure projects (roads, dams, powerplants, railways/trains, highways, housing, universities, factories etc).

The ((western)) model is plain usury - send piles of cash to the government for billion dollar loans supposed to go towards building something, or a big project. The money gets pilfered, the country gets saddled with crippling debt, the project doesn't get done. This is by design, as these failed countries have to give away their resources to pay for debt that they need to constantly roll and that can never get rid off, and as long as they stay undeveloped and indebted, they will sell their resources for pennies on the dollar.

2- The Chinese WANT Africa to develop, they want to create a big local consumer market for their cheap appliances, tractors, phones, bikes, cars etc, and they ultimately want to outsource their lower-end manufacturing there using cheap local labor. It's a win-win proposition.

It's a win for Europe too, if those African countries develop, the locals stay put.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Exhibit #471. The Changs have gotten their hands on highly classified and critical US defense technology yet again, this time through the Israeli subsidiary and BFF the UAE. US intelligence has obtained proof that in 2022-2023 the Emirati AI giant G-42 leaked vital and highly classified US military data to Chinese SOE Huawei. This happened in the direct wake of another recent Israeli-Chang scandal, also related to selling/handing over vital critical defense technology to the Chinese. Obviously none of the 'alt-right' media whores seem to be interested in this, total shocker. The only good thing is that the Trump Administration has put an immediate stop on these shenanigans, and earlier this year the Emirati Emir was confronted and put on the spot by big T himself with some serious threats to boot. Also notice the gigantic gap between empirical reality outlaid below and the increasingly bizarro wet farts of CCP whisperers in this thread, pure factfree psychosis vibes.


'The Financial Times reports US intelligence have obtained information that the UAE has passed critical defense technology to Huawei, which assisted the Chinese in developing extended range air-to-air missile systems, thus giving the Chinese fighters advantage over its American counterparts.

UAE-based AI giant G-42 was used to upgrade long-range missiles fired from fighter jets. The sensitive US information G-42 passed onto the Chinese helped upgrade the PL-15 and PL-17 missiles.

The intelligence findings are similar to that of UAE's ally Israel, which in the past has provided the Chinese vital US data on the Sidewinder and Patriot missile systems, as well as aided the Chinese J-10 jet program through handing over highly classified US military tech.'


How US intelligence linked UAE tech to China’s missile upgrades
Washington debated whether its Gulf ally was drifting into Beijing’s orbit after learning that Emirati tech may have helped China extend the range of its fighter-jet missiles.


The intelligence sparked debate in Washington about whether the UAE — long a critical US ally hosting American bases — was edging closer to Beijing.

American intelligence agencies concluded in 2022 that the United Arab Emirates had provided Huawei with technology later used by China to upgrade its long-range air-to-air missiles. According to six people familiar with the findings, US officials believed that G42 — Abu Dhabi’s flagship artificial-intelligence company — transferred software that optimized missile flight paths. The data suggested that the technology improved China’s PL-15 and PL-17 missiles, giving the People’s Liberation Army a range advantage over American aircraft, the Financial Times reported.

G42 and Huawei deny US claims

G42, whose investors include Microsoft, Silver Lake, and the UAE’s sovereign fund Mubadala, called the allegations “false and defamatory,” insisting that it had never provided proprietary or military-related software to Huawei or China’s military. The company said Huawei had acted only as a commercial cloud-infrastructure vendor, and that all business ties ended in October 2023. Huawei also denied any transfer of technology from G42, calling the US claims “entirely untrue.”

A wider concern about UAE–China ties

The intelligence sparked debate in Washington about whether the UAE — long a critical US ally hosting American bases — was edging closer to Beijing. “Intel was flashing red,” said one former US official, describing concerns that G42 and the Emirati tech sector were “drifting into China’s orbit.” The issue became so sensitive that the White House considered adding G42 to the Commerce Department’s entity list, which would have effectively cut it off from US technology.

Diplomatic pressure and assurances

The Biden administration dispatched senior officials to Abu Dhabi in early 2023, warning National Security Adviser Sheikh Tahnoon bin Zayed that the UAE had to choose between US and Chinese partnerships in artificial intelligence. Then–commerce secretary Gina Raimondo reportedly told Emirati officials it was “one strike and you’re out.” Following months of negotiations, G42 agreed to remove Huawei equipment from its data centres and pivot its AI cooperation toward American companies.

Amos Hochstein, Biden’s global energy adviser at the time, said the UAE “acted immediately” whenever concerns were raised, though some US security officials remained sceptical about its transparency.

China’s military advantage and US caution

Analysts said the suspected technology transfer underscored how China’s defence industry had overtaken the US in certain missile systems. “The PL-15 and PL-17 leapfrogged their US equivalents in range and seeker technology,” said a former CIA expert on China. While no laws appear to have been violated, US officials warned that the incident highlighted the risks of dual-use technology flowing through global AI partnerships.

Under Trump, cooperation resumes — cautiously

Relations improved under the Trump administration, which has embraced Abu Dhabi as a partner in “Stargate,” a $500 billion AI project led by OpenAI to build massive US–UAE data centres. But export-control hurdles remain, with Washington slow to issue the licences needed for advanced chip transfers.

Some lawmakers continue to warn that deeper AI collaboration with the UAE must be contingent on clear distancing from China. “I welcome closer cooperation,” said Representative John Moolenaar, chair of the House China committee, “but it needs to come with the Emiratis verifiably and irreversibly choosing America.”


www.moneycontrol.com/world/how-us-intelligence-linked-uae-tech-to-china-s-missile-upgrades-article-13632554.html/amp

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

With European colonialism there were benefits for the Africans. From China, not so much.
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They don't see them as human and they will see the west the same way when they come here in a few decades. Great post.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I don't think that is true, for two reasons:

1- The Chinese build infrastructure, their development model is to acquire local natural resources in exchange for turnkey infrastructure projects (roads, dams, powerplants, railways/trains, highways, housing, universities, factories etc).

The ((western)) model is plain usury - send piles of cash to the government for billion dollar loans supposed to go towards building something, or a big project. The money gets pilfered, the country gets saddled with crippling debt, the project doesn't get done. This is by design, as these failed countries have to give away their resources to pay for debt that they need to constantly roll and that can never get rid off, and as long as they stay undeveloped and indebted, they will sell their resources for pennies on the dollar.

2- The Chinese WANT Africa to develop, they want to create a big local consumer market for their cheap appliances, tractors, phones, bikes, cars etc, and they ultimately want to outsource their lower-end manufacturing there using cheap local labor. It's a win-win proposition.

It's a win for Europe too, if those African countries develop, the locals stay put.

From what I can tell, they want it modernize Africa for their own benefit, and they realize they cannot peacefully turn 75 IQ populations into people who can maintain modern infrastructure. They know eventually the gloves will have to come off, but for now they have to play nice.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

Isn’t there a Christian genocide happening across Africa? Don’t think anybody is modernizing it anytime soon.

When is there going to be a thread for that?

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Isn’t there a Christian genocide across Africa? Don’t think anybody is modernizing it anytime soon.

When is there going to be a thread for that?

Endless wars for profit, by we all know who. Their native population cannot maintain a first world civilization infrastructure, even when they handed one on a silver platter, no matter the religion. And this is something China knows and most the west refuses to acknowledge and will be the reason as to why China is going to win and take the west.