The China Thread

[It_Is_My_Time]

I know that phrase is tossed around a lot nowadays, but Xinjiang is, to a large extent, an open air prison for the Uyghurs who are there because of the extreme surveillance used to control them, as well as the re-education camps. It is effectively an extreme form of surveillance harassment for the Uyghurs.

Wait, so in China, if you have a pocket of people, with a history of opposing your way of life, and don't really fit in, and cause more crime and issues than the majority of the population, they keep a close eye on them and make sure they actually do follow the laws and don't disturb society?

Okay, and this is supposed to be a bad thing? I would suspect 99% of White people living in the west wished we had that on our side of the planet. Instead we get violent crime, fraud, theft, destruction of the middle class by their way of living and entire areas we can't even go to due to their behavior and now it is spreading into the "good" areas.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

China is run by Confucian atheists, we are run by luciferian degenerates.

Lived in China for 13 years. Visited every temple I could find where I lived and traveled. Spoke to perhaps thousands of Chinese about religion because it is one of their OCD questions they HAVE TO ASK THE FOREIGNER, and I never once heard anything about Confucius from a Chinaman. Only evidence for it was the shrine to their ancestors some few of them had in their house.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Wait, so in China, if you have a pocket of people, with a history of opposing your way of life, and don't really fit in, and cause more crime and issues than the majority of the population, they keep a close eye on them and make sure they actually do follow the laws and don't disturb society?

Okay, and this is supposed to be a bad thing? I would suspect 99% of White people living in the west wished we had that on our side of the planet. Instead we get violent crime, fraud, theft, destruction of the middle class by their way of living and entire areas we can't even go to due to their behavior and now it is spreading into the "good" areas.

Despite the descriptions and videos posted in this thread, you do not seem to be familiar with the actual occurrences of recent history in Tibet and Xinjiang, and so it is easy for you to dismiss them by false equivocation like just another abstract idea with no consequences.

While the way that Chinese do things is different from us, they go too hard even on the Muslims and on the Tibetan Buddhists, who are some of my least favorite people. They take the surveillance to such an extreme that it is bordering on round-the-clock mental torture.

My argument is that China's ability to do this came from Western technology and only continues because the West also continues to prop up China by manufacturing there, giving them technology and training, and allowing them to be educated in the West. China was used as the testbed for the development of a totalitarian technological control grid that is being rolled out in the West, so you may eventually discover if you really want that on your side of the planet as you have said.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

The craziest is watching people who claim Muslims are the issue, then turn around and claim that China is too harsh on Muslims, LOL. Sorry, this little game of not blaming those who are in charge of the west and are purposely destroying it is over, and the silly Muslim question will be avoided.

Is there anyone in this thread who blames Muslims here but thinks China is too harsh on them?

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Is there anyone in this thread who blames Muslims here but thinks China is too harsh on them?

Yes, @LaAguilaNegra

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Despite the descriptions and videos posted in this thread, you do not seem to be familiar with the actual occurrences of recent history in Tibet and Xinjiang, and so it is easy for you to dismiss them by false equivocation like just another abstract idea with no consequences.

While the way that Chinese do things is different from us, they go too hard even on the Muslims and on the Tibetan Buddhists, who are some of my least favorite people. They take the surveillance to such an extreme that it is bordering on round-the-clock mental torture.

My argument is that China's ability to do this came from Western technology and only continues because the West also continues to prop up China by manufacturing there, giving them technology and training, and allowing them to be educated in the West. China was used as the testbed for the development of a totalitarian technological control grid that is being rolled out in the West, so you may eventually discover if you really want that on your side of the planet as you have said.

This sums up your entire argument on this thread, and the other Chinese haters. "They are too harsh". Says who? You? Who are you?

Even if they are too harsh, it doesn't matter, might makes right and since we do nothing, they will win. And this backs up my point as to what they will do with the rest of the human population when there are no longer enough Whites to contain them.

The fact doesn't matter if you think they are too harsh or not, your opinion on this means nothing. What matters is who wins, and the fact that the Whites in the west do nothing, whereas China does something, means China will win.

China no longer needs western technology, they just need to maintain what they have stolen/copied, and wait for the west to commit suicide via third world immigration. They have already won, unless Whites become extremely radical, which I do not see happening.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

This sums up your entire argument on this thread, and the other Chinese haters. "They are too harsh". Says who? You? Who are you?

If you were carefully reading the thread, you would have known that I'm the guy whom Cooper asked for his opinion about the Uyghurs, and since this is a discussion forum with a topic, I answered him. So, to spell it out for you, my opinion is relevant here in this discussion about this topic.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Yes, @LaAguilaNegra

Where does LaAguilaNegra blame Muslims here but then says the Chinese are too harsh on them?

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

If you were carefully reading the thread, you would have known that I'm the guy whom Cooper asked for his opinion about the Uyghurs, and since this is a discussion forum with a topic, I answered him. So, to spell it out for you, my opinion is relevant here in this discussion about this topic.

Your opinion to him, in your conversation might be relevant, to me it means absolutely nothing. Good for China for being harsh on those outsiders. Due to this, their people and country have a future, and because my people are soft and weak, we have no future. Yea, they might be too harsh, I don't care, at least they have a future, I would happily be too harsh to have a future for my people.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Your opinion to him, in your conversation might be relevant, to me it means absolutely nothing.

Yes, you made that clear, but what is your purpose? Are you here to have a conversation or to try and drown the thread by repetitively posting the same thing without regard to what others are discussing?

 

[Eagle3]

...Good for China for being harsh on those outsiders. Due to this, their people and country have a future, and because my people are soft and weak, we have no future. Yea, they might be too harsh, I don't care, at least they have a future, I would happily be too harsh to have a future for my people.

Wait, so in China, if you have a pocket of people, with a history of opposing your way of life, and don't really fit in, and cause more crime and issues than the majority of the population, they keep a close eye on them and make sure they actually do follow the laws and don't disturb society?

Okay, and this is supposed to be a bad thing?

By the same token, you wu-maos shouldn't feel upset when Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, Australians, Japanese and Koreans want you out of their countries. After all, in their countries, it's the China people who are the "pocket of people, with a history of opposing your way of life, and don't really fit in, and cause more crime and issues than the majority of the population". Your kind shouldn't feel upset when these countries "keep a close eye on you and make sure you actually do follow the laws and don't disturb society".

Or do you CCPEE worshipers have your typical double standard of "rules for thee but not for me"?

And please don't use the tired and lame excuse that they need China people's' money, etc. Even if they are fairing poorly financially, these countries would rather have peace & quiet than the loud-mouthed, uncultured, cheating behaviors of China people.

 

[Cooper]

Your opinion to him, in your conversation might be relevant, to me it means absolutely nothing. Good for China for being harsh on those outsiders. Due to this, their people and country have a future, and because my people are soft and weak, we have no future. Yea, they might be too harsh, I don't care, at least they have a future, I would happily be too harsh to have a future for my people.

I don't think the Chinese are being harsh on the Uyghurs, if anything they are doing them a huge favor by shutting down radical wahhabi influences that have infested many Muslims around the world. In Europe you have Saudis and Qataris financing islamic extremism among local immigrant communities, in full cooperation with the local governments, as Muslims from places like Paris or Brussels have been radicalized, armed and sent to Syria, Libya to fight as NATO/deep state proxy warriors in Syria, Libya etc.

The Uyghurs are thriving economically next to their backwards Turkic neighbors, and the region is set to boom as the regional hub of the central Asian Belt and Road economy. The Uyghurs were exempt from the one child policy and benefit from affirmative action for admissions to China's colleges. They have some of the best infrastructure in the world today and huge investments from the central government in agriculture and industry. Most of all, the Uyghurs might be the only Muslims in the world today that will never be bombed....

Urimqi high speed rail station and skyline above

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

By the same token, you wu-maos shouldn't feel upset when Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, Australians, Japanese and Koreans want you out of their countries. After all, in their countries, it's the China people who are the "pocket of people, with a history of opposing your way of life, and don't really fit in, and cause more crime and issues than the majority of the population". Your kind shouldn't feel upset when these countries "keep a close eye on you and make sure you actually do follow the laws and don't disturb society".

Or do you CCPEE worshipers have your typical double standard of "rules for thee but not for me"?

And please don't use the tired and lame excuse that they need China people's' money, etc. Even if they are fairing poorly financially, these countries would rather have peace & quiet than the loud-mouthed, uncultured, cheating behaviors of China people.

LOL, the straw man to paint me as some CCP fan.

My post has nothing to do with how great China is or is not. Read it again, I never once said China was idea, in fact I have a longer post in this thread explaining this very point.

My message in this thread, over and over is simple. China will be the lone superpower in a few decades, with no competition, due to White people going extinct Indians, Arabs, Mestizos, Africans, etc, don't have a fighting chance against China. When White people are gone, and that will be sooner than most realize, there will be no one to stop or contain China. So, they can be as brutal, harsh, unfair as they want, and you and the rest of the glove, will be powerless to stop them.

 

[Cooper]

By the same token, you wu-maos shouldn't feel upset when Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, Australians, Japanese and Koreans want you out of their countries. After all, in their countries, it's the China people who are the "pocket of people, with a history of opposing your way of life, and don't really fit in, and cause more crime and issues than the majority of the population". Your kind shouldn't feel upset when these countries "keep a close eye on you and make sure you actually do follow the laws and don't disturb society".

Or do you CCPEE worshipers have your typical double standard of "rules for thee but not for me"?

And please don't use the tired and lame excuse that they need China people's' money, etc. Even if they are fairing poorly financially, these countries would rather have peace & quiet than the loud-mouthed, uncultured, cheating behaviors of China people.

"Cultured" Taiwanese.

DPP anti-China president of Taiwan William Lai:

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Yes, you made that clear, but what is your purpose? Are you here to have a conversation or to try and drown the thread by repetitively posting the same thing without regard to what others are discussing?

Whas is your purpose in this thread? It seems to be to run China down, which is fine, it is the Chinese thread. My purpose is to call out this one-sided way of thinking and say "yea, we have much bigger issues over here, and if you don't fix them first, these 'evil' Chinese will rule the globe".

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

"Cultured" Taiwanese.

DPP anti-China president of Taiwan William Lai:

I wonder how many straight men in Taiwan will pray for the return of Chinese rule, after the West gets done gutting their society and turning their women into mindless consumer drones?

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

The Chinese sold their beneficial trade position out just to keep access to US tech secrets, even though their seriously slumping economy might have played a role too. That and a bunch of other cards they held. Goes to show to what depths this espionage thing goes. They are quite literally looting the place bare whilst at same time running extensive propaganda narratives on how China is surpassing, or has already surpassed the US, in a myriad of ways.

CCP infiltration of US institutions is actually much worse than anyone here assumes. Below is a video of serpentza and laowhy86. The video was made off a new internal Stanford University report on CCP infiltration (which is total), but widened in scope due to a recently approved Chinese law regarding facilitation of foreign espionage.

Here it comes. Due to this law, which is the National Intelligence Law, all Chinese citizens are legally mandated to cooperate and assist with State intelligence work regardless of location.

In laymen terms this means Chinese students, in the US and elsewhere, are legally required to engage in espionage if picked by handlers for such an endeavor. Failure to comply will result in legal consequences, possibly career ending measures and social stigma including harassment of family back home.

Laowhy86 mentions the law at 7:00.

Takaichi is on top of everything, video below is really good. The Jap Prez knows exactly with what deceptive snakes she's dealing, and you can't play her because she's had that switch on moment decades ago already. Standing firm and tall, convinced of her own right and grounded into her country's history, culture and lore. Basically the nightmare of any commie troll.

In this video Takaichi talks about China's 2017 National Intelligence Law/ National Security Law. Serpentza and laowhy86 have talked about it many times before, video is linked above. This Chinese law stipulates that all Chinese citizens are legally mandated to cooperate and assist with State intelligence work regardless of location.

That's quite something, and in laymen terms this means that Chinese students/citizens, in the US and elsewhere, are legally obligated to engage in espionage if approached by CCP agents/handlers for such an endeavor. Failure to comply will result in legal consequences (aka jail time), possibly career ending measures and social stigma including harassment of family back home.

Takaichi is aware, high energy vibes. Meanwhile Don the Donkey invites 600 000 Chang students per two years into the US' most delicate institutions, as he waffles about God knows what. His own FBI chief even recently stated that his agency spends more money, time and resources on countering Chinese espionage than all other countries combined. Go figure. Big W for Takaichi.

 

[Eagle3]

I wonder how many straight men in Taiwan will pray for the return of Chinese rule, after the West gets done gutting their society and turning their women into mindless consumer drones?

I wonder how many chinamen will run off to Taiwan because they feel oppressed in china? Mindless consumer whores? Dude, china women are the queens of greed and materialism.

 

[Eagle3]

I don't think the Chinese are being harsh on the Uyghurs, if anything they are doing them a huge favor by shutting down radical wahhabi influences that have infested many Muslims around the world. In Europe you have Saudis and Qataris financing islamic extremism among local immigrant communities, in full cooperation with the local governments, as Muslims from places like Paris or Brussels have been radicalized, armed and sent to Syria, Libya to fight as NATO/deep state proxy warriors in Syria, Libya etc.

The Uyghurs are thriving economically next to their backwards Turkic neighbors, and the region is set to boom as the regional hub of the central Asian Belt and Road economy. The Uyghurs were exempt from the one child policy and benefit from affirmative action for admissions to China's colleges. They have some of the best infrastructure in the world today and huge investments from the central government in agriculture and industry. Most of all, the Uyghurs might be the only Muslims in the world today that will never be bombed....

Urimqi high speed rail station and skyline above

Ah, yes,

The standard CCPEE playbook: invade other people who are minding their own business, kill and torture them, destroy their places of worship, paint them as evil and disrupting society, then use the propaganda machine to brag about how much good is being done by building so many of your tofu buildings and questionable infrastructure. Pretend you are doing them a favor and how much they have "benefited". Rinse and repeat.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Where does LaAguilaNegra blame Muslims here but then says the Chinese are too harsh on them?

He doesn't, IIMT's brainlet simply shortcircuited due to his inability to entertain several seemingly contrary thoughts, concepts and ideas simultaneously. LAN on the other hand doesn't have that problem, hence the misunderstanding.

Also beware that there is entertainment to be had in exposing the glaring hypocrisy of thirdworldists, Muslims, commies, chuds, or a mix of those four. Remember, in those circles China was supposed to be the savior of Gaza, 'JQ aware' and a global ally of Islam - the latter which per disclaimer was needlessly slandered by da Zionists as to further the Z's own objectives and create internal strife elsewhere. All of this was platinum tier copium of course, now look at Xinjiang again.

Reality is of course is that China is big buddies with Israel, had its entire rise drawn up by Jews, is engaged in industrial levels of espionage and IP theft, doesn't give a flying F about Muslims whether in Gaza or Xinjiang, is hostile to Christians too, is crumbling from within despite the massive leg ups ((handed over)), is a irredentist, rogue and territorially ambitious power, is a highly repressive authoritarian shithole, is dirtpoor, is both morally and institutionally corrupted to the core, is the WEF blueprint for the technocratic surveillance state, is exporting degeneracy to the West, is openly communist and fully plugged into the usury based global banking system, and more.

Just poking fun really, that's all.