The China Thread
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We reviewed @LaAguilaNegra post, and while he could have been more scrupulous, he did not commit plagiarism.
He used italicization to highlight excerpts from a longer text, he didn't claim the authorship and openly stated that he forwarded the text.
This isn't just my personal opinion, it's the moderation team's.
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We reviewed @LaAguilaNegra post, and while he could have been more scrupulous, he did not commit plagiarism.
He used italicization to highlight excerpts from a longer text, he didn't claim the authorship and openly stated that he forwarded the text.
This isn't just my personal opinion, it's the moderation team's.
The council has spoken
Case closed.
The memes above make no sense, as up to the 1970s China was poorer than India or most African countries. Mothers everywhere told their children to finish their plates because kids in China were starving. This of course is no longer the case, almost a billion people in China have been lifted out of abject poverty.
I would note as well that the CPC and Chinese government actively promote traditional Chinese values and culture, through its film and TV productions of series about historical figures and events, or hanfu days on campuses and high schools where students are encouraged to wear ancient traditional costumes.
Hanfu movement sweeps China in revival of traditional culture
The Chinese dressing style of Hanfu, based on the idea of donning costumes worn in bygone eras by China’s dominant Han ethnicity, has seen a spike in followers, partly thanks to social media.
hk.fashionnetwork.com
Hanfu costumes gaining tract in China - Global Times
www.globaltimes.cn
One of the main reasons the communists prevailed over the Chiang Kai-shek nationalist faction is that the family of the latter was one of the main opium kingpins, notably his brother-in-law. That is a pattern very often seen in many third world countries, as in the Philippines with the family of Imelda Marcos, or in Assad's Syria with the family of patriarch Hafez Assad's wife.
Chang Kai-shek's brother in law partnered with the Green Gang, who was the most dominant drug cartel in China last century, which collaborated with the ((British)) authorities and banking cartels in Shanghai and HK. From a basic Google search:
AI Overview
Chiang Kai-shek had two notable brothers-in-law (H.H. Kung and T.V. Soong) who were part of the Soong family, a powerful dynasty in Republican China
. While the historical record does not directly link these specific men to the opium trade as their primary enterprise, Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist government was extensively involved in the opium traffic to finance its operations, collaborating with figures who were major drug bosses, such as Du Yuesheng of the Green Gang.
This aspect of the Chiang faction led many Chinese nationalists to side with Mao. When Mao took over, he executed 4-5 million of people in China, including anyone who had anything to do with the opium trade or distribution down to the corner vendor.
It's a promo video. I'd like to know more about the actual use of robots the way these videos suggest.
The woman tried to create plausible deniability by going all in on the dormant gene card, that man got gaslit hard.
Nothing impressive about stolen technology. Yeah, other countries may do that too. But not in the same scale. And they don't brag about it half as much, either.
The stolen technology isn't what is impressive. It is both how efficiently and quickly they can scale it up, because they put their resources into improving their country and we put our resources into baby sitting third worlders and erasing White people from existence.
Technology so terrible that even military adversaries would rather use them than their own. 
Another thing is their AI projects are more practical and more related to manufacturing, versus US generative AI focus, with all the customer service chatbots and fake pictures, not to mention their AI costs a fraction of American projects
They promote some of the outré trappings of customs and traditions that were largely sacrificed at the altar of Maoist thought, but they do not allow the freedom of thought among their own people to promote any spiritual practice or moral value system, except the false ones controlled by the central government, such as the CCP-approved versions of the five religions.
Stolen from The 70's Thread: Seinfeld on chopsticks
It's simply more fun eating with chopsticks than with a fork, knife, and spoon, which pose no challenge.
It's simply more fun eating with chopsticks than with a fork, knife, and spoon, which pose no challenge.
Chopsticks are better for eating Asia food - sushi, noodles from a bowl, dumplings, Chinese chicken, beef or pork dishes where the pieces are cut and stir-fried etc.
Knife and fork are much better suited at normal food like steak, roast chicken, pork or lamb chops, fried eggs, pancakes,...
The parcel pickups in China are very different than in the USA, especially in regard to thefts from porch pirates. China does not have porches, except at villas tucked into apartment complexes that are a new thing, but still rare.
When I lived there, the housing complex offices would not even accept deliveries because they can't deal with the problems that would inevitably arise and, until 2015 or so, almost every single package or food delivery was a person-to-person hand off after direct communication via text with the e-bike delivery boy, which was problematic becayse especially the older Chinese (born before about 1970) were so inconsiderate to them and would make them wait 10 or 20 minutes outside their apartment building and there was nothing they could do.
Covid changed some of this and now they have automated lock boxes in the housing complexes and around offices that solve that problem, thank goodness.
The scenes of many packages stacked out in the open began maybe 12 years ago simply because the logistics on China's biggest shopping day made it impossible to do the normal person-to-person hand off. It wasn't done because of goodwill and trust, but simply out of necessity and it only happens on maybe two or three days per year, like November 11 and Valentine's Day.
This video from serpentza explains some details about the lack of trust in China. Some of it I've gone over before, including the medical system, and here it is again. He also talks about the mandatory bribes you have to give before surgery, the hong bao (red packet) and that his Chinese wife, who was a doctor in Shenzhen, had to give a hong bao to her colleague before surgery, which would have been during the same years that I was there (2005-2018).
I went on youtube and looked for some vids from Americans who are happy in China and I found one. It's not directly supporting the high trust society theme, but this is a well-adjusted American who speaks Mandarin well, has a Chinese wife, and has lived there for 16 years. Listening to him, you're going to hear a lot of the best things about China that he has experienced, and he's also in Guangzhou in this video, where I used to live.
He says the Chinese are very pro-active about work and he also mentions the drinking culture, which was something bothered me a lot. He doesn't harp on it, but he did say one of his Hong Kong friends had a brother who died from alcohol overdose during a Chinese business dinner. It was that kind of insanity when drinking that turned me off.
He gives some details about his monthly budget at 18:30 including rents in different parts of the Guangzhou metropolitan area. Says he pays $300 USD for a small place waaay out in the boonies near the airport in Huadu, $1000 USD in Baiyun district on the north side of town, and $2,000 USD, and those are the prices he gives for a "small place", which I assume is 2 bedroom around 70-80 sq. meters, but he didn't specify. There are too many variables for me to know, from the little information, if the prices have changed.
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It's not just dilution from the third world, it's also from the inner rot of late stage capitalism, regulatory capture and revolving doors at the MIC:
The Chinese will reportedly be building gliding hypersonic missiles that normally cost several millions apiece for the price of a Ford Raptor truck:
New banger from serpentza and laowhy86, this time on the CCP lies surrounding the Uyghur Question. Xinjiang has been on and off in the news for years, mostly due to the brutal crackdown launched by the CCP in 2014 which came after a period of jihadist violence. This Chang crackdown included arbitrarily detaining up till two million Turkic muslims on random charges related to 'radicalization', forcibly separating children from their parents, disappearing local opponents of the commie regime, building up the largest and most profound surveillance state ever seen, closing places of worship en masse, and literally re-writing Islamic scripture. The latter two have happened with China's Christian community as well, all of this is described to a T in the Xinjiang Police Files.
Some very important details, the Turkic detainees are held without any charges and/or court cases. Ergo why Chang genocide-laundrers speak of voluntary re-education facilities instead of detainment camps. Chinese spooks simply pick the unlucky fellas up based on data analytics and first/second hand intel, detain them, forcefully 're-educate' them and then release them when deemed appropriate. Many of these inmates are held without trial for years and have to perform forced labor when in prison.
As serpentza emphasizes, the CCP simps always rebuke accusations by play-pretensing false confidence aka asking any sceptics 'to come and see for themself'. This is obviously cheap gaslighting, you're supposed not to come and the dozens of prison camps in the middle of the desert are off-limit anyway. This then gets doublewhammed by parading several paid Westoid propagandists going on scripted trips to Xinjiang to show how normal everything is. Quoted post above links one of those videos, the sell-out is accompanied the entire trip by a handler to make sure the right lines get drummed up.
Yet this time something went wrong, a Subcontinental vlogger traveled to Xinjiang to 'see for himself'. This man's also a Muslim hence in need for a place of worship. During his trip he went looking for a mosque in service and couldn't find one. All Uyghur mosques have been closed down and those that haven't are turned into tourist attractions with no Islamic services offered. According to the man the only mosques still in use are Hui mosques, which are under increasingly tight surveillance too bytheway.
Yet another CCP lie down the drain, signs of heavy Uyghur persecution are everywhere in Xinjiang. For those who don't really care about Muslims getting trampled, it obviously isn't much better for the Christian minority in China. This is especially due to the Chinese regime considering Christianity as a vessel for foreign influence, even more so than Islam.
Grim.
Serpentza serves low-IQ anti-China slop that consists of dubious anecdotal evidence and collages of outdated, cherrypicked footage that he uses to reinforce sinophobe biases to the low-info anti-China crowd.
He is not a serious source, any source covering China that never acknowledges the good parts of Chinese growth and development over the last several decades is just part of the billion dollar plus astroturfed glowie media network.
Here is an example of a more serious take on China. These two American industry analysts are not China cheerleaders, they actually view China as a threat to the West and the US, and this video is intended as a warning and a base to better understand China in order to better compete with them :
That is the kind of realistic and analytical take that a serious observer should favor, not the slop served by the likes of Serpentza or other similar professional propagandists with low professional qualifications.
I watched their videos when we were living there at the same time in next-door cities of Guangdong: Guangzhou - Huizhou - Shenzhen. Serpentza spent 13 years and Laowhy86 10 years as China cheerleaders while producing it's-fun-and-cool-to-live-in-China content that often emphasized the growth, opportunities and improvement, but they also never shied away from criticism.
They promoted local and foreign youtubers and did public events touting the good stuff in China. They both married Chinese women and have children with them. They made videos about why they left and why their stance on China has changed.
To disagree is one thing, but you're accusing them without evidence or even specific counter-points to what they're saying.
And again, you're simply wrong that they never acknowledge the good parts of China. Go back and look at their vids when they lived there.
They created thousands of hours of content about the good things in China, including two motorcycle travel documentaries, one for North China and one for South China, which I highly recommend to anyone curious about life outside Chinese cities.
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