South Africa's Descent Into A New Zimbabwe

GoodShepherd said:
The timing for SA to want to do this is very bad, if it was last year it wouldnt have been so bad but to announce this after sanctions threat from USA is not in the best interest of SA citizens in my opinion and will harm our already fragile economy.

This might also be the reason why we have been getting intentional power cuts, an excuse for the government to do this, the ANC politicians will obviously make big bucks from this deal but it will harm the citizens because of the timing.

I wonder if this would also possibly start a potential war in the distant future?
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It most likely is a set up to hurt relations with the USA.
 
Thats literally 1km from my house, I drive through that intersection daily. The homeless guy in the vid is mentally challenged but does a pretty good job. There are however serious drug addicts that use the tips to feed their habit.
What I find funny as hell is that the metro police and the SAPS actually wait patiently in traffic and obey the drug addict homeless guys directions.

South Africa is a movie.
 
Veritas said:
Thats literally 1km from my house, I drive through that intersection daily. The homeless guy in the vid is mentally challenged but does a pretty good job. There are however serious drug addicts that use the tips to feed their habit.
What I find funny as hell is that the metro police and the SAPS actually wait patiently in traffic and obey the drug addict homeless guys directions.

South Africa is a movie.
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Iv been through this intersection too, its unbelievable how such a busy intersection hasnt had functioning traffic lights for so many years, it boggles my mind because that area has high tax revenue, Yet we paying the police tax money and they not doing their jobs, In South Africa I truly believe we should defund the police and just keep a few pen pushing office cops to stamp forms we really dont need them and would be better off without them in my opinion.
 
Shaquilleoatmeal said:


“Whites are inferior.”

Which explains why South Africa is descending into a shithole because of less white people. 🐒
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I don't get that. Like, I really don't. How can anybody spend time around Blacks and around Whites and have the opinion that Blacks are less hostile and more civilized?
If you simply prefer Blacks and think Whites are arrogant or weird or whatever, okay, but throwing stones made of animal-comparisons from your grass hut betrays a lot of chutzpah.
 
Raskolnikov said:
I don't get that. Like, I really don't. How can anybody spend time around Blacks and around Whites and have the opinion that Blacks are less hostile and more civilized?
If you simply prefer Blacks and think Whites are arrogant or weird or whatever, okay, but throwing stones made of animal-comparisons from your grass hut betrays a lot of chutzpah.
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Raskolnikov said:
I don't get that. Like, I really don't. How can anybody spend time around Blacks and around Whites and have the opinion that Blacks are less hostile and more civilized?
If you simply prefer Blacks and think Whites are arrogant or weird or whatever, okay, but throwing stones made of animal-comparisons from your grass hut betrays a lot of chutzpah.
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The Dunning–Kruger effect in full display. Dumb people think they are smart but are too dumb to realize they are dumb.
 
A bit about South African history for those who are interested :

Here is the whole wall of text in case it vanishes from its source one day as it is quite well written -
BillyDeeWilliams1990

It's not so much that they were incredibly determined to maintain apartheid, but that maintaining apartheid had few costs, and many benefits, until the 1980s, which is when the system began to crack.

First, it's important to remember that, after World War II, which was when apartheid was codified and calcified, South Africa was about 20% white, which provided a much larger demographic and economic base than in 1994. Today, 25 years since the end of apartheid, South Africa (according to official government stats) is 8.4% white.

And in fact, at the time that the groundwork was being laid for apartheid, the most salient political division in South Africa was between English-speaking whites (generally, liberals and pro-British Empire) and Afrikaans-speaking whites (generally, conservative and supporting independence), as whites were already the only group with any real political power. Generally, the former opposed apartheid and the latter supported it, since apartheid was also identified with the ultimately successful push for independence from the Empire, which was granted in 1961. The politically dominant (though just barely) Afrikaans-speakers did not succeed in healing this division, despite their willingness to mend fences still broken since the Boer Wars (the Afrikaners had always perceived greater danger from the indigenous black African population than the English-speakers). However, most English-speaking whites accommodated themselves to apartheid, though a subset remained vocally dissatisfied with the institution through the time of its abolition.

The immediate catalyst for apartheid was, like so many other movements, the aftermath of World War 2. During the labor shortages occasioned by the war, the black population had migrated to the cities and there acquired a measure of economic power. The whites, especially but not exclusively the Afrikaners, perceived a growing threat to their own economic power, and their political power. Apartheid was the solution, and did succeed in barring the black population from political power for a long time. But the problem of labor shortages never really went away, and the apartheid government had to take increasingly drastic and even outlandish measures to control the economic activity of the black population (such as the Bantustan project), even as the white population shrank proportionally.

It is difficult to overstate the importance of economics to both the creation and maintenance of apartheid. After the war, South Africa, like many other nations, entered a sustained period of rapid economic growth. But this process was even more pronounced and dramatic in South Africa than elsewhere. This is likely due to SAF's lower level of overall development than other booming economies like the United States (including of its immense natural resources), plus large amounts of available capital, along with a (white) economic and political elite that was fully on-board with and already largely integrated into the structures upon which the American and British-led global economy was built. This last aspect can be contrasted with, for example, India, whose post-British rulers were not at all convinced of the utility of the global capitalist economy, some of whom were openly socialistic, which used command-economy principles in building the post-Empire economy, and flirted with the Soviet Union.

In short, the apartheid government delivered to its observers in London, Washington, New York, (eventually) Brussels, and Switzerland sustained economic growth and opportunities for investment unlike anything else in Africa (even in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, which also underwent a more minor boom). This gave the apartheid government considerable credibility in the international community, and they earned powerful friends.

And then, there is the threat of Bolshevism. Between the end of World War II and 1980, the vast majority of Africa was decolonized, sometimes peacefully, sometimes bloodily. But in all of these, the Cold War loomed large. In many of the decolonized states, from Egypt to Angola, the Soviets were the obvious alternative to the colonizers, and their influence increased, much to the alarm of the western governments and the apartheid government. This problem was, if anything, especially acute in southern Africa, and I'll discuss this further below. But the apartheid government was regarded as perhaps the bulwark against full Communist control of southern Africa (reminder: apartheid South Africa was also, at this time, the colonial overlord of what is today Namibia, through which it bordered Angola), especially as the primary opposition to the apartheid government, the African National Congress, was socialistic and did associate with the USSR. For this reason, too, the western international community was willing to ignore apartheid.

And it cannot be said that apartheid South Africa didn't put its money where its mouth was. Throughout the Cold War period, they fought numerous proxy conflicts against Soviet, Chinese and Cuban-aligned rebel groups and states in southern Africa. Often, as in the case of Angola and Mozambique, this led to their working with pretty much anyone non-communist, including the forces of the colonizers (in this case, Portugal, though the South Africans continued to fight after the Portuguese dropped out when their fascist-holdover government, the Estado Novo, fell to the Carnation Revolution in 1974). The apartheid government also worked with anti-communist rebels such as UNITA and FNLA (Angola), and with the Rhodesians, who were fellow travelers in (a just slightly less rancid form of) apartheid. Side note: the Rhodesians were rebels in their own way; they unilaterally declared independence from the UK in 1965, and remained internationally unrecognized until after the fall of their apartheid government in 1980, when it was recognized as Zimbabwe Rhodesia, and soon thereafter became just Zimbabwe.

International support for apartheid South Africa began to dry up in the 1980s, when international sanctions movements began to gain steam, which resulted in a greatly slowing and even contracting economy (though the apartheid state's economic problems, including problems with growth, preceded sanctions and were greater than them; sanctions simply exacerbated these problems, and it is unlikely that sanctions would have had the effect they did if not for pre-existing problems; in this I refer to the manifest ineffectiveness of modern sanctions regimes against, for example, Putin-era Russia, North Korea, and Saddam-era Iraq as drivers of political change). As economic growth, sabotaged by sanctions, fell further, more and more sanctions rolled in, resulting in worse and worse economic performance. This eliminated one of the major planks of western support for the apartheid regime, and in many ways set the stage for its end.

At the same time the economy was stagnating, South Africa's military commitments in neighboring states were not decreasing, and were even increasing, due to the fall of the Rhodesians. As a result, the apartheid government was forced to devote more and more resources to defense, as a percentage of GDP, and victory was nowhere in sight. These commitments helped to exhaust the apartheid government financially, politically and militarily.

And it is here that I need to discuss the role of internal resistance to apartheid. There had always been internal resistance from blacks and other minorities, but for most of the apartheid period, armed resistance was quickly suppressed, and brutally. Nonviolent resistance took a little longer to catch on, but once it did, it became a major force and was a major part of encouraging sanctions from the international community. However, it did not hurt that, by about 1990, the exhaustion of the wars had loosened, a little, the apartheid government's stranglehold on military power, and there was at least some armed resistance during the immediate period prior to the end of apartheid, such that the ANC militias felt the need to entire into an armistice with the South African Defense Forces in 1990.

Political support for the apartheid government as a bulwark against communism also decreased during this period for a number of reasons. One, the Cold War was nearing its end and the many weaknesses that would eventually doom the USSR were increasingly obvious to the world, and as Gorbachev's reform attempts (glasnost, perestroika, and democratization) failed miserably. Two, members of the ANC, such as Nelson Mandela, were becoming heroes in the western press. This plank of support completely dried up when the Soviet Union's end became a foregone conclusion in 1990, which is also when public negotiations to end apartheid began to be held (though secret negotiations between the apartheid government and the ANC had begun three years earlier, in 1987). The negotiations would not end until 1993, and the process of ending apartheid would not be complete until the first multiracial elections in 1994. However, the apartheid laws were repealed in 1991.
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This is a cool invention to prevent highjackings, we do have a big problem with car highjackings a lot of my family members have been highjacked, a family member was actually just recently highjacked a few weeks ago so it does happen. Besides this invention I have also seen adverts to bullet proof your cars.

What happens a lot more than highjackings is car theft, in my houshold alone when growing up with my parents we had about 2-3 cars stolen from us and at least 10-15 attempted car break-ins where windows were broken and ignitions and locks damaged, certain cars like the VW MK1 golf was once the most stolen car in South Africa that insurance companies stopped insuring that car, I dont know if its still the case now this was many years ago, I dont have insurance so I wouldnt know.

 


This was a recent guest on Mark Collett. He's formed some sort of pro-white faction in south Africa and sheds some light on the dynamics there. Interestingly, towards the end of the stream he mentions that the Orania leadership is jewish and subversive. Great conversation.
 


South Africa is what happens when you take DEI seriously, which is why the western media pretend it’s not happening. Ernst Roets on what’s going on there right now.

(0:00) South Africa Is Falling Apart
(4:03) The True Story of Nelson Mandela
(8:50) Perfect Example of the Failures of Communism
(12:34) The Killing of Whites in South Africa
(16:36) How Corporate Media Tries to Hide This
(23:01) The West’s Role in the Destruction of South Africa
(26:02) The Origins of the Afrikaner People
(33:40) Europe’s Propaganda War and Concentration Camps
(41:10) Why Does the West Hate Whites So Much?
(52:53) Elon Musk’s Willingness to Speak Out
(55:33) Trump’s Attempt to Help South Africa
(1:03:35) The Afrikaner’s Plan to Fix Their Country
(1:17:34) Why Roets Is Facing Treason Charges
(1:26:44) Racist Mob Rule
(1:31:09) Why Doesn’t the South African Government Want Peace?
(1:37:43) Why Roets Refuses to Leave South Africa
 
There are 2 landlocked countries in South Africa :

Lesotho
Eswatini (formerly Swaziland)

30,355 sq. km and 17,364 sq.km respectively.

In recent times I was in South Africa and noticed that a SaaS which I wanted to use was not available in South Africa but was in Eswatini and found that most strange. Wasn't going to go drive there just to use it..

Yesterday I was listening to a podcast and think I found out the likely reason :

www.capetownetc.com

Starlink may finally launch in South Africa by mid-2025

Starlink, the satellite internet provider owned by Elon Musk’s SpaceX, could soon expand its services to South Africa, thanks to upcoming regulatory changes, Cape {town} Etc reports. These adjustments, anticipated to be finalised by mid-2025, may clear the way for Starlink to legally operate in...
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The Department of Communication and Digital Technologies (DCDT) revealed that it plans to introduce new rules under the Electronic Communications Act, which governs sectors like telecommunications and broadcasting. One of the key obstacles for companies like Starlink has been South Africa’s requirement for applicants to hold at least 30% ownership by historically disadvantaged groups, a provision designed to boost local economic empowerment.
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This was the podcast where that was mentioned :
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Watchman Privacy

Listen to Watchman Privacy: "159 - The South Africa Situation with Ernst van Zyl" on Pandora - Gabriel Custodiet speaks with Ernst J. van Zyl, head of public relations at Afriforum about the craziness in South Africa. They cover the recent events of Trump’s cutting off of aid to South Africa and...
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Starlink is not black enough and the black supremacists don't like it.

Don't know much about those 2 microstates, except that Swaziland / Eswatini has got nice landscapes and Lesotho has the world's highest suicide rate.
 
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