Signs of Escalation Into A World War

[It_Is_My_Time]

This is true what you are saying, just keep in mind America is also one of Chinas biggest customers its not in Chinas best interest to lose USA as a customer, most of their "innovations" are just knock offs they copied from the west anyway, thats anothet big mistake the west did is to let their enemies manufacture all their inventions in their homeland. it reminds me of a story about a naval war the Romans were having against the carthagenians, the Carthagenians had a superior navy and were beating the Romans, until the Romans captured one of their boats, they dismantled they entire boat piece by piece and reverse engeneered the entire boat and build over 100 hundred boats in a very short time and beat the carthagenians using their own technology. USA has handed over their innovations to China.

Another thing stopping China is the fact that so many US citizens own guns, China would probably use other means to try and get USA to self destruct US although declining still has a powerful military I think Russia is also very strong.

Regarding the Isrealie war, I think Israel has a strong military too they can wipe out Gaza in 24hours but they cant because its not politically correct to do that, there are still woman and children there and it would look really bad to the entire world if they did that in 1 day, Gaza on the other hand they cant do that to Israel.

I appreciate the spirited discussion, though I am not sure if this is the correct thread. Since you included your beliefs on Israel, I will respond here, but any further discussion on China taking over the west probably should go into another thread. Though, I guess it is part of WW3 playing out.

Anyway, White people have essentially ruled the globe for 500 years. We brought modern technology and food to groups around the globe, by being the nice guys. Now as a result we are within 200 years of disappearing off the globe unless something major changes. The Europeans and China already had their battles and the Chinese, as advanced of a society as they are, were no match. So, I don't expect the Chinse to evolve magically and become stronger or better than Europeans. I just expect them to sit and watch Europeans allow their countries to be overrun by 80 IQ third worlders and our resources wasted on feeding them, while they create super advanced robots and drones. Our rifles will be less than pointless against these drones and robots. It is just a matter of time, unless Whites retake their countries. One of the two things will happen, probably in about 20 to 50 years. A hodge podge of 90 IQ Latinos, 80 IQ Sub-Saharan Africans, and some 100 IQ Whites, all who hate each other and hate their country will be no match for what China will have in the future.

Israel is trying to wipe out Gaza. Look at the pictures of Gaza now v. before October 7th. The billions wasted on bombing all those buildings is amazing. The problem is, Israel can't beat Hamas or Hezbollah without getting on the ground, going down into those tunnels, and losing thousands of men. And they have no ability to do this and have proven unable to do this. Israel is done for, unless the USA comes in and puts their men on the ground, which I still think will be too little, too late. When the flag draped caskets start to return, because they sent special forces into caves that are just giant death traps, the anger and resent from the American people will boil over. Hamas and Hezbollah have won in every facet and even Trump will not be able to save them this time.

BRICS is the new kings, USA and Israel traded power for third world legal immigration and the result is we have a military that is both falling behind in technology and the men are wisely unwilling to fight for.

 

[Josephus]

No idea why Putin has been as methodical as he is. He does have a legalistic nature to him and a practical side as well, so there's likely some such explanation (might still be bogus). Putin did say the new weapon would go into serial production after this operational test was done. I doubt that was the only one he had. His slowness has been often criticized here, so this is another stick on that fire.

Do you think this thing is being overplayed? Western and Ukrainian sources have yet to report anything useful on the damage from Oreshnik. I think that's for a reason.

This video from Millenium 7*History Tech is good. We've covered much of it, but it is worth the time:



He notes the even distribution accross a relatively large target of the six salvos. The salvos (MIRVs) are usually released at the apex and have independent terminal guidance. This system has the kinetic energy of 2 B-52 conventional payloads. 100 conventional missiles would be needed to attack a large air base, whereas 4 or 5 of these oreshniks could do the same job - with no effective AD system.

Thanks for the video. I like this guys analysis.

 

[Pointy Elbows]

Thanks for the video. I like this guys analysis.

This is a very high quality line-up on a previously unknown (to me) youtube channel addressing the situation.

Scott Ritter, Larry Johnson, Ray McGovern, and several other very high value contributors to this youtube video by Dialogue Works. Highly informative.



TL;DR - Even old, old hands believe this is worse situation than the Cuba crisis. This new weapon can dissolve any target in Europe/Range and is a game changer. Russia has US at a bad position - capitulate or nuke warfare. Challenge is to find a third way. All is coordinated by "someone", who is also stirring other pots worldwide (USG trying to block ALL Russian transaction, USG trying to block ALL BRICS transactions, even meddling in Indian politics as Modi is not compliant enough). Putin is hated, as he removed the "Oligarchs" from being able to rape Russia's assets.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Putin is giving a final warning to the west to stand down.

Again? Or what? Another fake red line because Putin got nothing. All this doom and gloom and weird giddy excitement about "Putin's new super weapon." Nothing trumps a nuke. Everybody knows everyone has nukes. So drop one already and STFU. Bunch of jew liars. Putin like Trump is a JQ sycophant materialist... life means nothing to these guys without their super yachts and golf courses. They will never push The Button because they are narcissits who love their own lives too much to end it via suicide in a USA/Russia nuclear exchange.

Love all the America bashing here too... where ya' gonna go? Russia?

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling."

 

[Caduceus]

Again? Or what? Another fake red line because Putin got nothing. All this doom and gloom and weird giddy excitement about "Putin's new super weapon." Nothing trumps a nuke. Everybody knows everyone has nukes. So drop one already and STFU. Bunch of jew liars. Putin like Trump is a JQ sycophant materialist... life means nothing to these guys without their super yachts and golf courses. They will never push The Button because they are narcissits who love their own lives too much to end it via suicide in a USA/Russia nuclear exchange.

Love all the America bashing here too... where ya' gonna go? Russia?

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling."

 

[expectation]

I skimmed through the thread. Some points for your awareness re: China since it has been mentioned...

China has already conducted a ICBM test launch from 12K KM to around the region of Guam back in Late September with a dummy warhead. In fact, they have informed US and nations on its path before hand. If you decide to youtube the video, it looks similar to the Russian strike (I'm no weapons expert so I'll let you all decide if they're similar).

Chinese Leaders/Officials publicly have always stressed the importance of being able to deliver a 2nd nuclear strike. Especially in regard to the game theory of Taiwan. Looks like both China and Russia have capability now.

My 2 cents in regard to China / America. I doubt it is in China/CPC's interest to conquer America. If they do, it'll probably be several generations from now and something that we shouldn't worry about...I do think it is in their interest for the American bases in Asia-Pacific to go away though but they seem more than happy to wait it out and will only go for it once the risk reward is good enough for them or even better if resolved peacefully.

Someone has mentioned China has banned Bitcoin - just to be clear, they have banned mining due to excessive electricity costs but it doesn't mean that they don't embrace crypto. Bitcoin / Crypto holders are significant in China and Southeast Asia. In fact, if they don't have access to trade in the US Market, it is probably the most lucrative/speculative market that they can access to and quite a few exchanges are Chinese owned. Beijing is also encouraging Hong Kong to adopt more crypto friendly policies. In addition, electricity costs has gotten significantly cheaper in China, I can foresee they revert on the crypto mining ban due to this...

They have been stockpiling Gold in the past several years though.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

I skimmed through the thread. Some points for your awareness re: China since it has been mentioned...

China has already conducted a ICBM test launch from 12K KM to around the region of Guam back in Late September with a dummy warhead. In fact, they have informed US and nations on its path before hand. If you decide to youtube the video, it looks similar to the Russian strike (I'm no weapons expert so I'll let you all decide if they're similar).

Chinese Leaders/Officials publicly have always stressed the importance of being able to deliver a 2nd nuclear strike. Especially in regard to the game theory of Taiwan. Looks like both China and Russia have capability now.

My 2 cents in regard to China / America. I doubt it is in China/CPC's interest to conquer America. If they do, it'll probably be several generations from now and something that we shouldn't worry about...I do think it is in their interest for the American bases in Asia-Pacific to go away though but they seem more than happy to wait it out and will only go for it once the risk reward is good enough for them or even better if resolved peacefully.

Someone has mentioned China has banned Bitcoin - just to be clear, they have banned mining due to excessive electricity costs but it doesn't mean that they don't embrace crypto. Bitcoin / Crypto holders are significant in China and Southeast Asia. In fact, if they don't have access to trade in the US Market, it is probably the most lucrative/speculative market that they can access to and quite a few exchanges are Chinese owned. Beijing is also encouraging Hong Kong to adopt more crypto friendly policies. In addition, electricity costs has gotten significantly cheaper in China, I can foresee they revert on the crypto mining ban due to this...

They have been stockpiling Gold in the past several years though.

At the rate of third world immigration into the USA, it will be quicker than a few generations. Probably one or two max. Meaning if you care about your own grandchildren, then you better get serious about getting the third worlders out and destroying any fake Christianity that supports recreating the Tower of Babel in your homeland.

And it will not be done great conquest, it will be a simple calculation of when their technology is superior enough to ours that it is a bargain for the very valuable land we are wasting. Likely they will have to send few if any men, just machines.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Short big nose jew with little man complex and medium IQ gonna take Ukraine in 3 day special op and then brother Caduceus pray Vlad have time to get Urkel after that

 

[RedLagoon]

 

[GoodShepherd]

I appreciate the spirited discussion, though I am not sure if this is the correct thread. Since you included your beliefs on Israel, I will respond here, but any further discussion on China taking over the west probably should go into another thread. Though, I guess it is part of WW3 playing out.

Anyway, White people have essentially ruled the globe for 500 years. We brought modern technology and food to groups around the globe, by being the nice guys. Now as a result we are within 200 years of disappearing off the globe unless something major changes. The Europeans and China already had their battles and the Chinese, as advanced of a society as they are, were no match. So, I don't expect the Chinse to evolve magically and become stronger or better than Europeans. I just expect them to sit and watch Europeans allow their countries to be overrun by 80 IQ third worlders and our resources wasted on feeding them, while they create super advanced robots and drones. Our rifles will be less than pointless against these drones and robots. It is just a matter of time, unless Whites retake their countries. One of the two things will happen, probably in about 20 to 50 years. A hodge podge of 90 IQ Latinos, 80 IQ Sub-Saharan Africans, and some 100 IQ Whites, all who hate each other and hate their country will be no match for what China will have in the future.

Israel is trying to wipe out Gaza. Look at the pictures of Gaza now v. before October 7th. The billions wasted on bombing all those buildings is amazing. The problem is, Israel can't beat Hamas or Hezbollah without getting on the ground, going down into those tunnels, and losing thousands of men. And they have no ability to do this and have proven unable to do this. Israel is done for, unless the USA comes in and puts their men on the ground, which I still think will be too little, too late. When the flag draped caskets start to return, because they sent special forces into caves that are just giant death traps, the anger and resent from the American people will boil over. Hamas and Hezbollah have won in every facet and even Trump will not be able to save them this time.

BRICS is the new kings, USA and Israel traded power for third world legal immigration and the result is we have a military that is both falling behind in technology and the men are wisely unwilling to fight for.

Hopefully things turn around, I personally dont see Russia as an enemy they are also white people and they are Orthodox Christians, they are part of Europe, in my opinion Russia has a lot more in common with the west than they do with China, India, Brazil and South Africa.

Regarding Latino countries you will also find white people in those countries quite a lot, South America is full of Europeans. Im in South Africa and we are part of the BRICS nations and trust me we are not kings are country has been on the decline for the past 20-30 years and itd actually become worse after joining BRICS, even though we are part of BRICS we still trade a lot with USA

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Hopefully things turn around, I personally dont see Russia as an enemy they are also white people and they are Orthodox Christians, they are part of Europe, in my opinion Russia has a lot more in common with the west than they do with China, India, Brazil and South Africa.

Regarding Latino countries you will also find white people in those countries quite a lot, South America is full of Europeans. Im in South Africa and we are part of the BRICS nations and trust me we are not kings are country has been on the decline for the past 20-30 years and itd actually become worse after joining BRICS, even though we are part of BRICS we still trade a lot with USA

I don't think Whites will completely disappear, but if the west is no longer majority White and technology and innovation fall with it, then I don't see why China would sit there and just let third world people waste this very valuable land, when they could take it for little to no effort.

South Africa is the future of the USA, but without the "world police" USA to keep China under threat to behave, all bets are off. I don't see Russia having the resources to take the land, and India is so dependent upon the USA to just keep its head above water. Whereas China is becoming a real power and will continue to grow and expand while the USA is collapsing.

 

[Cooper]

Short big nose jew with little man complex and medium IQ gonna take Ukraine in 3 day special op and then brother Caduceus pray Vlad have time to get Urkel after that

"Short big nose jew" spontaneously crosses himself after watching WW2 footage of mass extermination over Hiroshima.

Funnily enough, none of the many allegedly Christian world leaders in presence did the same.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Short big nose jew with little man complex and medium IQ gonna take Ukraine in 3 day special op and then brother Caduceus pray Vlad have time to get Urkel after that

I don't get it, and I doubt you answer, but here goes...

What is your point? That the entire world is controlled by the satanic elites and there is no hope? If that isn't your point, what is it? If this is your belief, then is anyone in the world not controlled by the satanic elite?

 

[Caduceus]

I don't get it, and I doubt you answer, but here goes...

What is your point? That the entire world is controlled by the satanic elites and there is no hope? If that isn't your point, what is it? If this is your belief, then is anyone in the world not controlled by the satanic elite?

Notoriously pessimistic @It_Is_My_Time telling another forum member they are too hopeless and blackpilled....
Now I've seen everything.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

@It_Is_My_Time telling another forum member they are too hopeless and blackpilled....
Now I've seen everything.

I'm not black pilled, I am just not the right-wing version of "Hope and Change". I am just trying to get an understanding for his point. Because if Putin is controlled, as he says, then why would the satanic elites go to all this work to put on the show. The show would then be over, and they could just mass exterminate everyone they deem unworthy. But instead, the satanic elites, for whatever reason, have to keep tricking us, despite, in his belief, having control of both sides. So, I am just trying to clarify his beliefs, because they don't really square up for me.

 

[Cooper]

I'm not black pilled, I am just not the right-wing version of "Hope and Change". I am just trying to get an understanding for his point. Because if Putin is controlled, as he says, then why would the satanic elites go to all this work to put on the show. The show would then be over, and they could just mass exterminate everyone they deem unworthy. But instead, the satanic elites, for whatever reason, have to keep tricking us, despite, in his belief, having control of both sides. So, I am just trying to clarify his beliefs, because they don't really square up for me.

Putin/Russia is roughly where the US was in the 1970s, meaning that zionists have an internal lobby and do have some influence, but they certainly do not call the shots. As well their influence is gradually waning and not consolidating, as the rift between Russia and the West is growing and post 1990s Russian society is becoming more Christian.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Putin/Russia is roughly where the US was in the 1970s, meaning that zionists have an internal lobby and do have some influence, but they certainly do not call the shots. As well their influence is gradually waning and not consolidating, as the rift between Russia and the West is growing and post 1990s Russia is becoming more Christian.

This is how I understand it to be in Russia. If Putin was a controlled op, like @PurpleUrkel thinks that he is, then what is the point in all this theatre?

 

[GoodShepherd]

I don't think Whites will completely disappear, but if the west is no longer majority White and technology and innovation fall with it, then I don't see why China would sit there and just let third world people waste this very valuable land, when they could take it for little to no effort.

South Africa is the future of the USA, but without the "world police" USA to keep China under threat to behave, all bets are off. I don't see Russia having the resources to take the land, and India is so dependent upon the USA to just keep its head above water. Whereas China is becoming a real power and will continue to grow and expand while the USA is collapsing.

Even if white people decline to small numbers keep in mind it only took 1 boat of 500 staright white Christian conservative men to conquer all of Mexico

 

[Blade Runner]

2) Israel is getting its ass kicked. They can fly around in F-35 and bomb civilians, but they cannot stop Hamas or Hezbollah. Israel is losing chunks of its population everyday with people fleeing. If we had advanced technology, Israel is the boss of the USA, and it would have been deployed day 1 after October 7th.

It could be, you make a case indeed. I do not know.

They went to the dark side of the moon and they have missile technology that even our pentagon admitted is way more advanced than ours. These are things we have never publicly displayed.

I'm doubtful of this, but who knows, again.

4) The most valuable possession isn't man power, it isn't even technology, it isn't even trade and currency. It is your people. We are replacing probably the toughest/most rugged/most creative people in the world (Europeans who survived against all odds to build a new country out of nothing) with people who either never invented the wheel or a written language, or are still generations behind us. In China, Russia, Iran, if you are a man with a 150 IQ, you are celebrated. You advance the country's technology, you get a beautiful wife, have a nice home and have kids. You have so much vested interest in your work that you go above and beyond. In the USA if you are a man with a 150 IQ, you are ignored by land whales, and either pushed to Wall Street to do absolutely meaningless work, or you are told you can't get into college because we need 90 IQ third world people getting those degrees.

I agree. It's sad. But that's what happens when big population booms happen and people get soft.

It is only a matter of time before China comes and takes this land with robots and hacking and dispenses with the pesky people here, unless White people take their countries back. I don't know which will happen, but I do know it will be one of the two.

Not gonna happen.

At the rate of third world immigration into the USA, it will be quicker than a few generations. Probably one or two max. Meaning if you care about your own grandchildren, then you better get serious about getting the third worlders out and destroying any fake Christianity that supports recreating the Tower of Babel in your homeland.

You haven't seen my criticism of demographic people, who are always wrong. The balance changes once people feel the pain and issues of survival, which are not here currently due to an easy living circumstance and peace for boomers and silents for 80 years. That won't continue, and Europeans are still the most advanced of humans. They aren't going away.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

It could be, you make a case indeed. I do not know.

I'm doubtful of this, but who knows, again.

I agree. It's sad. But that's what happens when big population booms happen and people get soft.

Not gonna happen.

You haven't seen my criticism of demographic people, who are always wrong. The balance changes once people feel the pain and issues of survival, which are not here currently due to an easy living circumstance and peace for boomers and silents for 80 years. That won't continue, and Europeans are still the most advanced of humans. They aren't going away.

I pray that you are correct. In the end, the strongest civilization will control the land, and if Whites do disappear, the next up will be the Chinese. Great thoughts, thank you.