It's hilarious how many normies I know still think Ukraine is 'winning'
Signs of Escalation Into A World War
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France authorizes the Ukrainians to strike Russia with French SCALP missiles. Looks like this has been gamed out. It is Macron's turn to take one for the team. He's been talking big lately.
There's a lot of ambiguity in the article. Washington has to approve such use, as SCALP needs US technology to work (like Storm Shadow). Now, it looks like France is asking Washington to authorize use of US technology for such attacks. I'm assuming Bidenites will approve.
Ball is in Ukraine's court. It is football season in the US, probably nobody will know about the provocation, only the Russian response if it hits France.
There's a lot of ambiguity in the article. Washington has to approve such use, as SCALP needs US technology to work (like Storm Shadow). Now, it looks like France is asking Washington to authorize use of US technology for such attacks. I'm assuming Bidenites will approve.
Ball is in Ukraine's court. It is football season in the US, probably nobody will know about the provocation, only the Russian response if it hits France.
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SCALP is the original French version of Storm Shadow. Both are poor, and need to be launched by the dozen for one to get through Russian air defense. Russia will deal with them, give measured retaliations, and wait for Trump to get inaugurated, IMO. I do not expect them to do anything so drastic as to give the Western media the excuse to call for WW3.
I was just having this conversation last night with a very well informed and intelligent CPA. We were just talking about the election and then how awful the media on TV is, no matter which direction (right v. left) you watch. And I told him that what frustrated me the most is that no matter which you watch, left or right, no one is telling us the truth about foreign policy. That no matter who wins the election, we get the same pro-war foreign policy and we are lied to about it.
He was sort of taken aback, and said "what do you mean?". And I told him that the only reason I knew the following information was due to getting on the internet. How badly Ukraine was losing, how much more advanced Russia's military has proven to be v. NATO, how much more advanced than that, that China is, and how Iran is still laying low and just waiting for the right opportunity to hit us with a real knockout blow. He was pretty shocked by this information, and then I related it back to how Putin was crushing our economy and how 4 of the 5 top largest economies in the world are now in BRICS and their goal is to destroy the USD, thus the US economy.
I could see the wheels moving and he responded with "oh damn". He wasn't aware of any of this, but it all sounded so much more realistic than what he heard, he had to stop and think things over. He didn't return to the conversation later on, I could tell it shook him and he didn't want to think about it.
Yes, the lack of information regarding the strength of BRICS is astonishing, and people here need to be made aware of it. We can no longer bully other countries with our military, because our military is a joke, as much as our country is, and we can no longer preform low-IQ Reaganism of "strength through power" because we traded power for diversity and open borders.
I'm certainly no defender of most of American foreign policy, but I don't think this is accurate. Our technology is still superior to everyone's. Easily the biggest mistake that BRICS isn't doing right now, if it's not (I don't know) is stockpiling BTC. Military might by man is obsolete, it's all tech right now. Yes, Russian can hit us or anyone else at any time. If they don't get BTC and compete with the US, or the US doesn't do the strategic BTC reserve, either is in big trouble. Read Softwar.
At the end of the day, we just will never know 100% until one side or the other capitulates. So, I will list the reasons I believe that BRICS has either passed us in technology or will do so very soon, and then the trajectory will mean they can eventually just wipe everyone here out with robots and hacking our electrical systems. This land is valuable, the soon to be majority third world people are of no value to them, other than maybe fertilizer for their new fertile land.
1) We have already gone toe to toe with Russia, and they have wiped the floor with us. They are beating us with technology, they are beating us in trade, they are beating us in aesthetics. The entire globe is moving towards BRICS, even the disgusting countries who signed satanic Kushner's shameful Abraham Accords. If we had great technology already, where is it?
2) Israel is getting its ass kicked. They can fly around in F-35 and bomb civilians, but they cannot stop Hamas or Hezbollah. Israel is losing chunks of its population everyday with people fleeing. If we had advanced technology, Israel is the boss of the USA, and it would have been deployed day 1 after October 7th.
3) I know people from China, they are far more aware than most would guess. They know the west is collapsing due to our satanic elites, the same elites who put them through Mao's terror, and they know this damn well. When they visit or talk to their family here in the USA, they are amazed at how far our day-to-day technology is. Between our outdated electrical grid, the lack of technology to make our lives easier, the dependence on overpriced vehicles, the cost to go do a doctor... They built and entire hospital in 10 days during covid. They went to the dark side of the moon and they have missile technology that even our pentagon admitted is way more advanced than ours. These are things we have never publicly displayed.
4) The most valuable possession isn't man power, it isn't even technology, it isn't even trade and currency. It is your people. We are replacing probably the toughest/most rugged/most creative people in the world (Europeans who survived against all odds to build a new country out of nothing) with people who either never invented the wheel or a written language, or are still generations behind us. In China, Russia, Iran, if you are a man with a 150 IQ, you are celebrated. You advance the country's technology, you get a beautiful wife, have a nice home and have kids. You have so much vested interest in your work that you go above and beyond. In the USA if you are a man with a 150 IQ, you are ignored by land whales, and either pushed to Wall Street to do absolutely meaningless work, or you are told you can't get into college because we need 90 IQ third world people getting those degrees. It is only a matter of time before China comes and takes this land with robots and hacking and dispenses with the pesky people here, unless White people take their countries back. I don't know which will happen, but I do know it will be one of the two.
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In case you're not aware, this sort of topic or a slight variation on it is a big theme in the novel Atlas Shrugged, published 1957
Martin armstrong reports the Yuzhmash facility is totally destroyed.
www.armstrongeconomics.com
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling them “made in Ukraine” to shelter the Western suppliers in the NATO war against Russia. The Russian ICBM attack utterly destroyed the Yuzhmash manufacturing, which was an industrial giant even during the USSR. It made rockets during the former USSR and intercontinental missiles for the USSR. According to sources, the Yuzhmash plant no longer exists.
Most of the facility was underground. Ukraine was manufacturing drones and rocket engines, and this was where they assembled their weapons. There were three floors underground, each 10 feet (6 meters) high. Zelensky never thought Russia could possibly destroy this operation, but it has.
While this was just a conventional weapon, the impact was so powerful that buildings several kilometers from the plant shook and suffered damage. Because this facility was underground, all the pipes for the water supply in the city have been destroyed. Messages have gotten out, and the residents commented that it felt like an earthquake. Keep in mind this was devastating, yet it was still just conventional. They could also deploy six nuclear warheads. Those hiding in bunkers are no longer safe during nuclear war. Perhaps the Neocons are trying to dig a deeper rabbit hole now.
Despite the Western Press still preaching the Neocon propaganda, emergency meetings reflect that this is a very serious development for warfare. Putin could have easily taken out Europe and American nuclear capability if he really wanted to conquer Europe, but he has been against turning this into World War III. The hardline Russian Neocons behind him also would love to wipe out their counterparts in America.
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Ukraine's primary facility for drone and rocket engines.
Info On Dnipro | Armstrong Economics
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling
www.armstrongeconomics.com
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling them “made in Ukraine” to shelter the Western suppliers in the NATO war against Russia. The Russian ICBM attack utterly destroyed the Yuzhmash manufacturing, which was an industrial giant even during the USSR. It made rockets during the former USSR and intercontinental missiles for the USSR. According to sources, the Yuzhmash plant no longer exists.
Most of the facility was underground. Ukraine was manufacturing drones and rocket engines, and this was where they assembled their weapons. There were three floors underground, each 10 feet (6 meters) high. Zelensky never thought Russia could possibly destroy this operation, but it has.
While this was just a conventional weapon, the impact was so powerful that buildings several kilometers from the plant shook and suffered damage. Because this facility was underground, all the pipes for the water supply in the city have been destroyed. Messages have gotten out, and the residents commented that it felt like an earthquake. Keep in mind this was devastating, yet it was still just conventional. They could also deploy six nuclear warheads. Those hiding in bunkers are no longer safe during nuclear war. Perhaps the Neocons are trying to dig a deeper rabbit hole now.
Despite the Western Press still preaching the Neocon propaganda, emergency meetings reflect that this is a very serious development for warfare. Putin could have easily taken out Europe and American nuclear capability if he really wanted to conquer Europe, but he has been against turning this into World War III. The hardline Russian Neocons behind him also would love to wipe out their counterparts in America.
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Ukraine's primary facility for drone and rocket engines.
Very interesting post. I did find this bit funnyMartin armstrong reports the Yuzhmash facility is totally destroyed.
Info On Dnipro | Armstrong Economics
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling them “made in Ukraine” to shelter the Western suppliers in the NATO war against Russia. The Russian ICBM attack utterly destroyed the Yuzhmash manufacturing, which was an industrial giant even during the USSR. It made rockets during the former USSR and intercontinental missiles for the USSR. According to sources, the Yuzhmash plant no longer exists.
Most of the facility was underground. Ukraine was manufacturing drones and rocket engines, and this was where they assembled their weapons. There were three floors underground, each 10 feet (6 meters) high. Zelensky never thought Russia could possibly destroy this operation, but it has.
While this was just a conventional weapon, the impact was so powerful that buildings several kilometers from the plant shook and suffered damage. Because this facility was underground, all the pipes for the water supply in the city have been destroyed. Messages have gotten out, and the residents commented that it felt like an earthquake. Keep in mind this was devastating, yet it was still just conventional. They could also deploy six nuclear warheads. Those hiding in bunkers are no longer safe during nuclear war. Perhaps the Neocons are trying to dig a deeper rabbit hole now.
Despite the Western Press still preaching the Neocon propaganda, emergency meetings reflect that this is a very serious development for warfare. Putin could have easily taken out Europe and American nuclear capability if he really wanted to conquer Europe, but he has been against turning this into World War III. The hardline Russian Neocons behind him also would love to wipe out their counterparts in America.
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Ukraine's primary facility for drone and rocket engines.
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Martin armstrong reports the Yuzhmash facility is totally destroyed.
Info On Dnipro | Armstrong Economics
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling them “made in Ukraine” to shelter the Western suppliers in the NATO war against Russia. The Russian ICBM attack utterly destroyed the Yuzhmash manufacturing, which was an industrial giant even during the USSR. It made rockets during the former USSR and intercontinental missiles for the USSR. According to sources, the Yuzhmash plant no longer exists.
Most of the facility was underground. Ukraine was manufacturing drones and rocket engines, and this was where they assembled their weapons. There were three floors underground, each 10 feet (6 meters) high. Zelensky never thought Russia could possibly destroy this operation, but it has.
While this was just a conventional weapon, the impact was so powerful that buildings several kilometers from the plant shook and suffered damage. Because this facility was underground, all the pipes for the water supply in the city have been destroyed. Messages have gotten out, and the residents commented that it felt like an earthquake. Keep in mind this was devastating, yet it was still just conventional. They could also deploy six nuclear warheads. Those hiding in bunkers are no longer safe during nuclear war. Perhaps the Neocons are trying to dig a deeper rabbit hole now.
Despite the Western Press still preaching the Neocon propaganda, emergency meetings reflect that this is a very serious development for warfare. Putin could have easily taken out Europe and American nuclear capability if he really wanted to conquer Europe, but he has been against turning this into World War III. The hardline Russian Neocons behind him also would love to wipe out their counterparts in America.
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Ukraine's primary facility for drone and rocket engines.
If this is true why did Putin wait 2 years to destroy it ?
Russia can end the war in Ukraine anytime it wants with this weapon.
Next time Nato hits Russia with ATACMS or storm shadows the Oreshnik may well be launched on Bankova Street in Kiev to decapitate the Zelinskyy regime. They can also completely annihilate Ukraine's remaining airfields with this.
That's what I would do if I were in Putin's shoes at this point.
The Oreshnik is a real game changer.
Next time Nato hits Russia with ATACMS or storm shadows the Oreshnik may well be launched on Bankova Street in Kiev to decapitate the Zelinskyy regime. They can also completely annihilate Ukraine's remaining airfields with this.
That's what I would do if I were in Putin's shoes at this point.
The Oreshnik is a real game changer.
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This weapon wasn't ready it seems.
They've attacked it with Kalibr and Iskanders before, and it wasn't enough to destroy this facility which was built in Soviet times to withstand nuclear strikes.
I have heard that these Oreshnik missiles are a medium-range MIRVs, each capable of 6 warheads, but that each warhead can have 3 independently targetable "sub-munitions" inside, giving a total of 18 per missile. They also mentioned that the missile travels at MACH 10-12, but that the sub-munitions scatter at twice that speed. This is bonkers, if true. I believe it was on The Duran that they were discussing this. Now imagine they put them on Poseidon underwater drones or on subs. The balance of power has massively shifted, especially if the BRICS nations start trading them.Martin armstrong reports the Yuzhmash facility is totally destroyed.
Info On Dnipro | Armstrong Economics
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling
Sources from Ukraine confirm that Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk), Ukraine, was a major facility for manufacturing missiles from Western components and relabeling them “made in Ukraine” to shelter the Western suppliers in the NATO war against Russia. The Russian ICBM attack utterly destroyed the Yuzhmash manufacturing, which was an industrial giant even during the USSR. It made rockets during the former USSR and intercontinental missiles for the USSR. According to sources, the Yuzhmash plant no longer exists.
Most of the facility was underground. Ukraine was manufacturing drones and rocket engines, and this was where they assembled their weapons. There were three floors underground, each 10 feet (6 meters) high. Zelensky never thought Russia could possibly destroy this operation, but it has.
While this was just a conventional weapon, the impact was so powerful that buildings several kilometers from the plant shook and suffered damage. Because this facility was underground, all the pipes for the water supply in the city have been destroyed. Messages have gotten out, and the residents commented that it felt like an earthquake. Keep in mind this was devastating, yet it was still just conventional. They could also deploy six nuclear warheads. Those hiding in bunkers are no longer safe during nuclear war. Perhaps the Neocons are trying to dig a deeper rabbit hole now.
Despite the Western Press still preaching the Neocon propaganda, emergency meetings reflect that this is a very serious development for warfare. Putin could have easily taken out Europe and American nuclear capability if he really wanted to conquer Europe, but he has been against turning this into World War III. The hardline Russian Neocons behind him also would love to wipe out their counterparts in America.
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Ukraine's primary facility for drone and rocket engines.
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I read it's 6 x 6 for a total of 36.
I agree and I was laughing at a recent CNN analysis claiming that the weapon wasn’t effective. Guy was a hack retired general and got skewered in the comments. One guy said yeah it wasn’t effective because they didn’t strap a nuclear warhead to it.
No idea why Putin has been as methodical as he is. He does have a legalistic nature to him and a practical side as well, so there's likely some such explanation (might still be bogus). Putin did say the new weapon would go into serial production after this operational test was done. I doubt that was the only one he had. His slowness has been often criticized here, so this is another stick on that fire.
Do you think this thing is being overplayed? Western and Ukrainian sources have yet to report anything useful on the damage from Oreshnik. I think that's for a reason.
This video from Millenium 7*History Tech is good. We've covered much of it, but it is worth the time:
He notes the even distribution accross a relatively large target of the six salvos. The salvos (MIRVs) are usually released at the apex and have independent terminal guidance. This system has the kinetic energy of 2 B-52 conventional payloads. 100 conventional missiles would be needed to attack a large air base, whereas 4 or 5 of these oreshniks could do the same job - with no effective AD system.
I dont see China adopting Bitcoin anytime soon as they even banned it
This is true what you are saying, just keep in mind America is also one of Chinas biggest customers its not in Chinas best interest to lose USA as a customer, most of their "innovations" are just knock offs they copied from the west anyway, thats anothet big mistake the west did is to let their enemies manufacture all their inventions in their homeland. it reminds me of a story about a naval war the Romans were having against the carthagenians, the Carthagenians had a superior navy and were beating the Romans, until the Romans captured one of their boats, they dismantled they entire boat piece by piece and reverse engeneered the entire boat and build over 100 hundred boats in a very short time and beat the carthagenians using their own technology. USA has handed over their innovations to China.
Another thing stopping China is the fact that so many US citizens own guns, China would probably use other means to try and get USA to self destruct US although declining still has a powerful military I think Russia is also very strong.
Regarding the Isrealie war, I think Israel has a strong military too they can wipe out Gaza in 24hours but they cant because its not politically correct to do that, there are still woman and children there and it would look really bad to the entire world if they did that in 1 day, Gaza on the other hand they cant do that to Israel.