Russia to offer sanctuary & residency to foreigners disgusted by the demonic globohomo clown world west

forabettertomorrow said:
My brother millions of Russian live in the West.

For two and a half year now they get insulted, surveillanced, threatened, made ridiculed.

How many go back to Russia?

In the last 10 years I become much more blackminded about Russia.. it is not going the way I hope it will go. Like all other Russians I hope for cooperation with the West, increase in living standard, end to degeneracy, end to corruption, continue revival of the Orthodox Church..

This didn't happen. I am not living in Russia now, only visiting from time to time. Many young Russia people dream of going to the West.

It is bad situation. The West is turning bad very fast too. I try to stay positive but it is difficult.
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I absolutely understand why Orthodox Christians and those from humbler or more cohesive societies would not be able to tolerate life in the US.

What they never taught us in school was the fact that about 1/3 of immigrants to the USA left for elsewhere or returned to the home countries within 5 years. America is and always has been loud, brash, ostentatiously consumeristic, while hypocritically being very self-righteous about its low-church "Christianity". For many immigrants this mix was unbearable, superficial, offensive, and lacking in true Christian piety or wholesome social and family values. I get it...I really do...and I struggle with these things every time I visit and when I lived there in the past.

I grew up in the USA and in school we always learned about how America is a "country of immigrants". We heard all the stories about "rags to riches" success and "if you can dream it, you can make it" hype and propaganda. Yes, compared to much of the world until that time (1970s/80s) that was largely true. But it is not true for the vast majority of immigrants today and the majority of native-born Americans, either.
 
Andrew makes some good points here that I imagine some people have not considered. No matter how much you think the traditional values in Russia speak to your heart, the fact is that Russia is severely cut off from western travel and banking, at a minimum. For anyone moving there, it would be a very final decision I think. It is not unlike how people had to adjust when moving to the USA during the 20th century from the rest of the world. The US in the past (like Russia today) has existed in its own bubble, socially, geographically, financially, etc. and does not play well with other nations. Something to think about.

 
Christos_NIKA said:
Andrew makes some good points here that I imagine some people have not considered. No matter how much you think the traditional values in Russia speak to your heart, the fact is that Russia is severely cut off from western travel and banking, at a minimum. For anyone moving there, it would be a very final decision I think. It is not unlike how people had to adjust when moving to the USA during the 20th century from the rest of the world. The US in the past (like Russia today) has existed in its own bubble, socially, geographically, financially, etc. and does not play well with other nations. Something to think about.

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The bigger issue which I point out all the time is that you are at least 2 generations away from women in the US being even reasonable, if that. So if women or a family are high on your priority list, it does you no good. The standard of living is going to run out in the USA for most anyway, so when it breaks up regionally, you'll be in a similar situation regardless, just without any hope of women. While that's fine - if you are OK with it - just to go to the region you like and live the rest of your days out, then it becomes the same thing. But again the main topic on this forum is women or at least women and family, and the future of those. There is one exception that could also make a place like Russia better, since you're going to need BTC in both places either way: the surveillance state. I guess we'll see the answer to all of these, or decision time, coming up in the next decade.
 
All valid points. Andrew stated a few times though to think through a decision for Russia very carefully and to not be rash about it. He said correctly that there are dozens of countries with traditional values that might be easier choices to move to: Serbia, Montenegro, some places in South America or Asia, etc. I don't know about everyone on here but buying BTC at least where I live is VERY difficult. The banks block such purchases and there are no BTC "vending machines" here. I have a little bit of BTC, but I literally have to travel to another country and pay in cash in shady locations (gas stations and gambling joints) to get it.
 
Christos_NIKA said:
He said correctly that there are dozens of countries with traditional values that might be easier choices to move to: Serbia, Montenegro, some places in South America or Asia, etc.
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Yes. Pros to Serbia? Generally sane and Orthodox. In my view, great women in general, but that thought is incomplete without being honest about the fact that as a man/outsider you aren't needed since their men are masculine and generally tall, in good shape. Even though the culture is better, I can be Orthodox here, since it's not like I'm going to go somewhere and make tons of friends, learn the language, etc. There's gotta be something more than that. Montenegro? Use the Euro. Small, and too many rich people already there. Both geopolitcally problematic, by and large.

If you are into Asian women and you can take being that far away, that might be the best place. I am not so it already has too many negatives, and it's not Orthodox either, really.

LatAm is always a possibility but it's mostly a lower IQ place for "fun" where you have to be careful because it is very tempting to get caught in the lower IQ low fidelity world.

The reason why Russia and their friends (flanking neighbors, like Kazakhstan, Belarus, the Baltics, etc) are the best is because they arguably have the best women and the women need you, and they are traditional because they aren't spoiled from being in an economy that produces excess or allows the government to do welfare type spending. Again, almost all the reasons to move are based on how women are there, since you by definition will have money or you wouldn't be able to go there, anyway.
 
Blade Runner said:
In my view, great women in general, but that thought is incomplete without being honest about the fact that as a man/outsider you aren't needed since their men are masculine and generally tall, in good shape.
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I think that analysis is incomplete. What you said about Serbian men being tall, in shape and masculine is true, but given the economic situation in Serbia the thing most Serbian guys (80 - 90%) lack is the money to provide a good standard of living for a woman/family. Also my gut feeling is a typical Serbian guy would be more predisposed to cheating/infidelity than a typical western man would although I would have to spend time in Serbia to actually know if its the case or not.

So I think objectively foreigners still have some value in Serbia but this objective value is cancelled out by the fact the the culture is closed to off to outsiders.
 
After this thread was started, I did some online searching and came across the story of the Feenstra family from rural Saskatchewan, Canada.

Conservative Christian farmer Arend Feenstra, his wife Aneesa, and their fruitful family of 8 children moved to Russia the beginning of this year to escape Canada's woke perversion and depravity.

There's actually a whole schwack of stuff about them online, the bulk of it from about 6 months ago. Most of the content is vitriolic hate-spewing against the Christian family but what do you expect?

There's so many articles and videos about them I don't begin to know which ones to post here.

Just search Arend Feenstra or Canadian family moves to Russia and form your own conclusions, I guess.
 
He's become pretty famous, and has helped contribute to the new Russian political refugee immigration status for western conservatives.



Lately, he's been building his house on some country acreage for his future farming homestead.

The way things are headed in most 5 Eyes/western European countries, there is going to be a lot of demand for this visa. Ireland today:
 
Blade Runner said:
The bigger issue which I point out all the time is that you are at least 2 generations away from women in the US being even reasonable, if that. So if women or a family are high on your priority list, it does you no good. The standard of living is going to run out in the USA for most anyway, so when it breaks up regionally, you'll be in a similar situation regardless, just without any hope of women. While that's fine - if you are OK with it - just to go to the region you like and live the rest of your days out, then it becomes the same thing. But again the main topic on this forum is women or at least women and family, and the future of those. There is one exception that could also make a place like Russia better, since you're going to need BTC in both places either way: the surveillance state. I guess we'll see the answer to all of these, or decision time, coming up in the next decade.
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The main thing about Russia is that warts and all, it is a society that is healing, while the West is constantly degrading. Russia went through an astonishly horrendous century between 1917 and 2000, until the almost providential ascent of Putin at the helm. While the guy is not perfect, there is no question that he is (1) competent and (2) devoted to his country and its betterment.

Russia is the richest country in the world by a wide margin, not just in natural resources, but also in its growing industrial base, it has been taking ((the West's)) best shot, not overreacting and handling it with ease. It has a bright future, young Russians will be better off than their parents, while the opposite is true in every western country. The West peaked in the early 1960s, before the great Boomer ((social engineering project)), the most successful radical cultural change project of all time, was unfurled on that generation. 5-6 decades later we are still reeling from its aftereffects, with the program becoming ever more radical with every generation.

There is no question that unless radical changes take place in the West, the trend of sane, conservative westerners taking refuge in Russia is going to grow and accelerate, especially now that the Russians themselves are aware of this cultural dynamic and see this as a big opportunity to shore up their demography.

Russia was a thriving, modernizing society that was still traditional and deeply Christian in the early 1900s. Mendeleev, a leading chemist/scientist and polymath wrote in 1900 that Russia would be the leading country in the world by 2000 with a population of 500 million. That project was completely derailed by the western ((banksters)) who hated Orthodox Russia with a passion, with their 1-2 punch of WW1 followed by the Bolshevik revolution, during which they culled most of the clergy and about 20 million of the flower of the Russian nation.

Russia today has survived this tragedy and is on the mend, ascending.
 
Cooper said:
The main thing about Russia is that warts and all, it is a society that is healing, while the West is constantly degrading. Russia went through an astonishly horrendous century between 1917 and 2000, until the almost providential ascent of Putin at the helm. While the guy is not perfect, there is no question that he is (1) competent and (2) devoted to his country and its betterment.
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Great post. You nailed it. I often try to tell people this very thing. I find it almost astonishing (but I know propaganda and clear thinking are both problems in the modern day) that one cannot discern that a country that just came out of horrible Soviet - godless and sick rule - isn't going to become a fully fledged economy and more overnight. It's only been 30 years, and the west even did its best to stifle that from the beginning! Amazing how little is understood about basic history and current geopolitical realities.
 
Cooper said:
The main thing about Russia is that warts and all, it is a society that is healing, while the West is constantly degrading. Russia went through an astonishly horrendous century between 1917 and 2000, until the almost providential ascent of Putin at the helm. While the guy is not perfect, there is no question that he is (1) competent and (2) devoted to his country and its betterment.

Russia is the richest country in the world by a wide margin, not just in natural resources, but also in its growing industrial base, it has been taking ((the West's)) best shot, not overreacting and handling it with ease. It has a bright future, young Russians will be better off than their parents, while the opposite is true in every western country. The West peaked in the early 1960s, before the great Boomer ((social engineering project)), the most successful radical cultural change project of all time, was unfurled on that generation. 5-6 decades later we are still reeling from its aftereffects, with the program becoming ever more radical with every generation.

There is no question that unless radical changes take place in the West, the trend of sane, conservative westerners taking refuge in Russia is going to grow and accelerate, especially now that the Russians themselves are aware of this cultural dynamic and see this as a big opportunity to shore up their demography.

Russia was a thriving, modernizing society that was still traditional and deeply Christian in the early 1900s. Mendeleev, a leading chemist/scientist and polymath wrote in 1900 that Russia would be the leading country in the world by 2000 with a population of 500 million. That project was completely derailed by the western ((banksters)) who hated Orthodox Russia with a passion, with their 1-2 punch of WW1 followed by the Bolshevik revolution, during which they culled most of the clergy and about 20 million of the flower of the Russian nation.

Russia today has survived this tragedy and is on the mend, ascending.
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Great post mate.

Anyone who's read Dostoyevsky should have an idea of the horrors to come to the West.
 
The full list of faggot globohomo countries pushing degeneracy whose citizens can apply for asylum in Russia has been published by the Russian government. It's a whopping 47 different countries !

The list includes almost all European Union countries, all of Scandinavia, and the Ukraine of course.
The English speaking Anglo Saxon countries are all there including Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Ireland, and of course the USA and Canada.

A total of 4 east asian countries including Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore qualified.
Even very tiny countries like the Bahamas, Micronesia, Andorra, Liechtenstein, San Marino, and Monaco made the cut.

Notably the Orthodox countries of Romania, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Greece, Cyprus, and partially Orthodox North Macedonia are also on the list.
Even the Muslim nation of Albania and (partially Muslim) nations of Singapore, and North Macedonia are included !


Full list of 47 countries whose citizens can apply for easy residency in Russia:

Albania
Andorra
Australia
Austria
Bahamas
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Micronesia
Monaco
Montenegro
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
North Macedonia
Poland
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
Singapore
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
USA
United Kingdom (including British Crown Dependencies and British Overseas Territories)
Ukraine



Notably NOT on the list is Hungary, Slovakia, Moldova, Serbia, Turkey, and the Vatican.
Also no country from central or south America, all of Africa, or anywhere in south east Asia made the list.
Not even tranny loving Thailand qualified !


Official sources:
www.rt.com

Russia issues list of ‘destructive neoliberal’ countries

Moscow has listed 47 “neoliberal” countries whose “destructive attitudes” contradict Russian traditional values
www.rt.com www.rt.com

tass.com

Russian prime minister approves list of countries imposing destructive attitudes

It includes the United States of America, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Japan and other states
tass.com tass.com


20 SEPT 2024
Russian prime minister approves list of countries imposing destructive attitudes


MOSCOW, September 20. /TASS/. Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin approved the list of countries imposing destructive attitudes that contradict Russian spiritual and moral values. The corresponding document has been published.

The list includes 47 countries and territories that "implement policies that impose destructive neoliberal ideological attitudes that contradict traditional Russian spiritual and moral values."

It includes the United States of America, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Japan and other states.

The EU countries that are not included in the list include Slovakia and Hungary, and the NATO countries that are not added to the list include Turkey.

According to a TASS source familiar with the preparation of the document, the list was approved in accordance with the presidential decree on providing humanitarian support to foreigners who share traditional spiritual and moral values.

The order comes into force on the day of its official publication.
 
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I wouldn't encourage or discourage this issue, as it is so personal, but here are some interesting reads on the issue:

x.com

x.com x.com

Apologies if it is already posted. movetorussia.com

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www.unz.com

Russia’s unbeatable military – a big reason to move here – you'll be safe

Russia, like America, is unconquerable - militarily
www.unz.com www.unz.com

This author, Charles Bausman, has an interesting article on moving there for security purposes.

Russia ever-doomers won't like it.
 
Pointy Elbows said:
I wouldn't encourage or discourage this issue, as it is so personal, but here are some interesting reads on the issue:

x.com

x.com x.com

Apologies if it is already posted. movetorussia.com

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www.unz.com

Russia’s unbeatable military – a big reason to move here – you'll be safe

Russia, like America, is unconquerable - militarily
www.unz.com www.unz.com

This author, Charles Bausman, has an interesting article on moving there for security purposes.

Russia ever-doomers won't like it.
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Charles Bausman has several other articles I noticed there, including this one.
 
Statue near Belgorod commemorating Rus prince Sviatoslav's defeat of the Khazar kaganate:

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Caduceus said:
The full list of faggot globohomo countries pushing degeneracy whose citizens can apply for asylum in Russia has been published by the Russian government. It's a whopping 47 different countries !

The list includes almost all European Union countries, all of Scandinavia, and the Ukraine of course.
The English speaking Anglo Saxon countries are all there including Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Ireland, and of course the USA and Canada.

A total of 4 east asian countries including Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore qualified.
Even very tiny countries like the Bahamas, Micronesia, Andorra, Liechtenstein, San Marino, and Monaco made the cut.

Notably the Orthodox countries of Romania, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Greece, Cyprus, and partially Orthodox North Macedonia are also on the list.
Even the Muslim nation of Albania and (partially Muslim) nations of Singapore, and North Macedonia are included !


Full list of 47 countries whose citizens can apply for easy residency in Russia:

Albania
Andorra
Australia
Austria
Bahamas
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Micronesia
Monaco
Montenegro
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
North Macedonia
Poland
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
Singapore
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
USA
United Kingdom (including British Crown Dependencies and British Overseas Territories)
Ukraine



Notably NOT on the list is Hungary, Slovakia, Moldova, Serbia, Turkey, and the Vatican.
Also no country from central or south America, all of Africa, or anywhere in south east Asia made the list.
Not even tranny loving Thailand qualified !


Official sources:
www.rt.com

Russia issues list of ‘destructive neoliberal’ countries

Moscow has listed 47 “neoliberal” countries whose “destructive attitudes” contradict Russian traditional values
www.rt.com www.rt.com

tass.com

Russian prime minister approves list of countries imposing destructive attitudes

It includes the United States of America, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Japan and other states
tass.com tass.com


20 SEPT 2024
Russian prime minister approves list of countries imposing destructive attitudes


MOSCOW, September 20. /TASS/. Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin approved the list of countries imposing destructive attitudes that contradict Russian spiritual and moral values. The corresponding document has been published.

The list includes 47 countries and territories that "implement policies that impose destructive neoliberal ideological attitudes that contradict traditional Russian spiritual and moral values."

It includes the United States of America, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Japan and other states.

The EU countries that are not included in the list include Slovakia and Hungary, and the NATO countries that are not added to the list include Turkey.

According to a TASS source familiar with the preparation of the document, the list was approved in accordance with the presidential decree on providing humanitarian support to foreigners who share traditional spiritual and moral values.

The order comes into force on the day of its official publication.
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So, citizens of the Vatican can’t apply. I guess the pope and his entourage are out of luck. Can’t use his Argentinian citizenship either.
 
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