Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

ABC News reporting that Ukraine has lost roughly 1M men DEAD in this war, with several hundred K that have lost limbs (no information provided on other Wounded). Traditionally, there are 3-5 wounded for every 1 dead soldier.



I remember some time ago reading that the traditional rates of WIA:KIA are off in this war. Men are often left to die on the battlefield as the fairly stagnant and hot lines prevent evacuation. Also, I read that the war is employing such high firepower and accuracy that successful attacks are just more lethal than in previous wars. No idea if this is all true. Historians will have to figure that out.

Also noteworthy: This is ABC Normie news, admitting such figures as only RussiaRusssiaRussia loons would previously utter. Something is up.



edit - looks like that segment was too good to be true, it's AI according to the community notes.
 

We all hope that @PM_ViktorOrban at least won’t call Assad in Moscow to listen to his hour-long lectures as well.

It’s absolutely clear that achieving real peace and guaranteed security requires America’s determination, Europe’s unity, and the unwavering commitment of all partners to the Purposes and Principles of the UN Charter.

No one should boost personal image at the expense of unity; everyone should focus on shared success. Unity in Europe has always been key to achieving it. There can be no discussions about the war that Russia wages against Ukraine without Ukraine.

I am grateful to @realDonaldTrump and many European leaders with whom we are already working to find the right and strong solutions for real peace.



Kiev rejects peaceful solutions, Putin tells Orban​

MOSCOW, December 11. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin shared his perspective on the situation in Ukraine during a phone call with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, the Kremlin press service reported.

The two leaders engaged in a comprehensive discussion on Ukraine, the Kremlin said in a statement. "Viktor Orban expressed his willingness to contribute to efforts aimed at jointly finding political and diplomatic solutions to the crisis, considering his contacts with several Western leaders," the statement reads.

"In turn, Vladimir Putin shared his fundamental views on the current developments surrounding Ukraine and the destructive policies of the Kiev regime, which continue to rule out the possibility of resolving the conflict peacefully," the Kremlin added.

Earlier, the Hungarian prime minister had a lengthy, three-hour conversation with US President-elect Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

Putin and Orban last met in July when the Hungarian head of government visited Moscow. Over the past month, Orban has become the second European leader to call Putin. In mid-November, Putin also held a phone conversation with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. Both calls were initiated by Budapest and Berlin, respectively.
 
The one-sided shilling on here is ridiculously naïve. Here Russian servicemen are given clear instructions from their brigade commanders on how to kill themselves. This is why we see videos almost daily, of their cannon fodder shooting themselves.

"Remember: You are a warrior of great Russia. Your honor lies in your loyalty to the end."

russiansuicideinstructions1.webprussiansuicideinstructions2.webp

Not very Orthodox Christian at all. Not very productive for winning a war either.
 
The reason they have to put that message out is because captured Russian POWs have been tortured to death:



If this is what they do to their own soldiers, you can imagine what they do to Russians:



I am not sure how prevalent those practices are in the Ukrainian army, but at the very least the Azov and other highly politicized divisions are notoriously bad there.
 
The reason they have to put that message out is because captured Russian POWs have been tortured to death:



If this is what they do to their own soldiers, you can imagine what they do to Russians:



I am not sure how prevalent those practices are in the Ukrainian army, but at the very least the Azov and other highly politicized divisions are notoriously bad there.

Instructing your soldiers to kill themselves is satanic.
 
The one-sided shilling on here is ridiculously naïve. Here Russian servicemen are given clear instructions from their brigade commanders on how to kill themselves. This is why we see videos almost daily, of their cannon fodder shooting themselves.

"Remember: You are a warrior of great Russia. Your honor lies in your loyalty to the end."

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Not very Orthodox Christian at all. Not very productive for winning a war either.
Not saying this didn't happen, but where is this pic even from? Could be a UA effort to discredit RU servicemen. Or it could be from one of the pagan leaning battalions? How would we even know?
There's plenty of videos of supposed suicides, but there's also tons of Orthodox prayers/blessings on the front lines. It's not like any of us have eyes on to see what is true and what is not...
 
Not saying this didn't happen, but where is this pic even from? Could be a UA effort to discredit RU servicemen. Or it could be from one of the pagan leaning battalions? How would we even know?
There's plenty of videos of supposed suicides, but there's also tons of Orthodox prayers/blessings on the front lines. It's not like any of us have eyes on to see what is true and what is not...
There are a lot of suicide videos all over gab and liveleak. You can clearly see each Russian military member position their rifle or a grenade. There are entire compilations made by people (who I would assume do not like Russia or just want to show how bad war is). I have posted one link before I think it would be redundant to post a dozen more. I have watched videos of hundreds of Russian military personnel either shoot themselves exactly how these instructions lay out, blow themselves up with grenades exactly how these instructions lay out, or cut their own throats because they're out of bullets and grenades. It's all caught on camera from drone operators or reconnaissance planes. I don't enjoy watching this, but I don't like to be coddled by a coping fantasy of hopium either.

Many people have this horribly skewed one-sided perception of Russia, just like they have the inverse of Ukraine. This entire NATO vs BRICS, west vs east nonsense is two forms of submissive imperialism fighting over a minutiae of ideological differences. They all still serve the jew and the genocide of White Slavic men in a brother war suits them all just fine.

Unlike what others may say on here, they do not kill themselves because of the Azov, who are a minority percentage of the Ukrainian military personnel having a cruel reputation. They kill themselves because they are ideologically primed to do this as part of the military strategy of sending meat waves with the hopes that the enemy runs out of bullets, bombs, missiles, and shells before they run out of bodies. It is very similar to Stalin's strategies of not one step back. War to the last Russian. When the Koreans are all used up, they'll send in the Chinese, the Indians, more Africans, and the rest of the Asiatics in the steppe countries, and they have billions of those. The professional Russian army was mostly routed in 2022. The people they're sending in now are just meat. I don't know what Russian commanders and military intelligence use to convince these people to follow through with the instructions of sucide but life out there on the war front is absolutely shitty. They have to drink water from dirty puddles, shelter is almost non-existent, and so many patrols are strafed by drones and aerial attacks. The situation out there is degrading with each passing day. The western support for Ukraine is also designed to dwindle down the population of Russian men so that the Kalergi plan intensifies in Eastern Europe.

Ask a Russian nationalist about all of this, if you can still find one who is not in jail. You are right that if we are not there personally what do any of us know? That goes for me just as it goes for anyone who spreads hopium here or who pushes that this war is necessary. This war is absolutely unnecessary and anyone who argues against that it is necessary might as well be a Kalergi pawn.
 
The war is absolutely to weaken Russia just in case they are a threat to the jew takeover. There is no other reason for it whatsoever and Russia was completely goaded into it and wants out. Jews have a lot of influence in Russia, but even still they want to make absolutely sure they have all their bases covered as we are nothing but canon fodder to them and they are inherently evil people. It's the same thing here in the USA, they already run the country but even still that's not enough they have to destroy it.

Mind you I have no special love for Russia or Russian culture, I don't romanticize it the way many here do....Russians wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire. But I can call a spade a spade and obviously this senseless war affects things here as well.
 
Lt General Igor Kirillov - head of Russian NBC troops was killed in an IED explosion in Moscow.


Full text:
As a result of the explosion in Moscow, Lieutenant General of the Russian Armed Forces' NBC Protection Kirillov was killed. He is the head of the radiation, chemical and biological defense troops of the Russian Armed Forces. His assistant also died.
An explosive device planted at the exit of the building detonated at about 6 a.m. Windows were blown out in nearby apartments, emergency services are working on the scene


 
There are a lot of suicide videos all over gab and liveleak. You can clearly see each Russian military member position their rifle or a grenade. There are entire compilations made by people (who I would assume do not like Russia or just want to show how bad war is). I have posted one link before I think it would be redundant to post a dozen more. I have watched videos of hundreds of Russian military personnel either shoot themselves exactly how these instructions lay out, blow themselves up with grenades exactly how these instructions lay out, or cut their own throats because they're out of bullets and grenades. It's all caught on camera from drone operators or reconnaissance planes. I don't enjoy watching this, but I don't like to be coddled by a coping fantasy of hopium either.

Many people have this horribly skewed one-sided perception of Russia, just like they have the inverse of Ukraine. This entire NATO vs BRICS, west vs east nonsense is two forms of submissive imperialism fighting over a minutiae of ideological differences. They all still serve the jew and the genocide of White Slavic men in a brother war suits them all just fine.

Unlike what others may say on here, they do not kill themselves because of the Azov, who are a minority percentage of the Ukrainian military personnel having a cruel reputation. They kill themselves because they are ideologically primed to do this as part of the military strategy of sending meat waves with the hopes that the enemy runs out of bullets, bombs, missiles, and shells before they run out of bodies. It is very similar to Stalin's strategies of not one step back. War to the last Russian. When the Koreans are all used up, they'll send in the Chinese, the Indians, more Africans, and the rest of the Asiatics in the steppe countries, and they have billions of those. The professional Russian army was mostly routed in 2022. The people they're sending in now are just meat. I don't know what Russian commanders and military intelligence use to convince these people to follow through with the instructions of sucide but life out there on the war front is absolutely shitty. They have to drink water from dirty puddles, shelter is almost non-existent, and so many patrols are strafed by drones and aerial attacks. The situation out there is degrading with each passing day. The western support for Ukraine is also designed to dwindle down the population of Russian men so that the Kalergi plan intensifies in Eastern Europe.

Ask a Russian nationalist about all of this, if you can still find one who is not in jail. You are right that if we are not there personally what do any of us know? That goes for me just as it goes for anyone who spreads hopium here or who pushes that this war is necessary. This war is absolutely unnecessary and anyone who argues against that it is necessary might as well be a Kalergi pawn.

Several falsehoods in this and other posts you have made:

1- Ignoring documented harrowing treatments of Russian POWs by the Ukrainians, including shooting them in the legs and having them bleed to death. That is the only reason Russian soldiers would want to commit suicide. Russia has a large number of Ukrainian POWs and would gladly exchange them for Russian POWs if the current Ukrainian military culture wasn't so ideologically fanatical as to kill off Russian POWs.

2- The idea that Russia and China are under Rothschild banking control. That's a narrative that is being pushed by GAE glowies and propagandized relays. It is an especially dumb narrative not just in terms of China, but also for Russia, which is more independent today than it ever was since 1917. That is the reason why NATO has been relentless in its Russia/Putin vilifying campaign, this war is about extending and preserving the GAE.


3- The notion that Russia is throwing "meat waves" at Ukraine, and that their leadership doesn't care about human lives, and hasn't bent over backwards to avert this war or to minimize the loss of both Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians. If Putin didn't care about his soldiers, he would have long mobilized a million plus soldiers and ordered costly "big arrow" offensives into Ukraine.
 
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Several falsehoods in this and other posts you have made:

1- Ignoring documented harrowing treatments of Russian POWs by the Ukrainians, including shooting them in the legs and having them bleed to death. That is the only reason Russian soldiers would want to commit suicide. Russia has a large number of Ukrainian POWs and would gladly exchange them for Russian POWs if the current Ukrainian military culture wasn't so ideologically fanatical as to kill off Russian POWs.

2- The idea that Russia and China are under Rothschild banking control. That's a narrative that is being pushed by GAE glowies and propagandized relays. It is an especially dumb narrative not just in terms of China, but also for Russia, which is more independent today than it ever was since 1917. That is the reason why NATO has been relentless in its Russia/Putin vilifying campaign, this war is about extending and preserving the GAE.


3- The notion that Russia is throwing "meat waves" at Ukraine, and that their leadership doesn't care about human lives, and hasn't bent over backwards to avert this war or to minimize the loss of both Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians. If Putin didn't care about his soldiers, he would have long mobilized a million plus soldiers and ordered costly "big arrow" offensives into Ukraine.


The problem with engaging with the “hyper-competent Jews stage-manage and control every single facet of modern life” take is that it’s non-falsifiable to the point of absurdity.
 
The one-sided shilling on here is ridiculously naïve. Here Russian servicemen are given clear instructions from their brigade commanders on how to kill themselves. This is why we see videos almost daily, of their cannon fodder shooting themselves.

"Remember: You are a warrior of great Russia. Your honor lies in your loyalty to the end."

View attachment 15503View attachment 15504

Not very Orthodox Christian at all. Not very productive for winning a war either.

Obviously fake. You are really easy to fool, aren't you Music? Looks like a photoshop job from 2008.

There are a lot of suicide videos all over gab and liveleak. You can clearly see each Russian military member position their rifle or a grenade. There are entire compilations made by people (who I would assume do not like Russia or just want to show how bad war is). I have posted one link before I think it would be redundant to post a dozen more. I have watched videos of hundreds of Russian military personnel either shoot themselves exactly how these instructions lay out, blow themselves up with grenades exactly how these instructions lay out, or cut their own throats because they're out of bullets and grenades. It's all caught on camera from drone operators or reconnaissance planes. I don't enjoy watching this, but I don't like to be coddled by a coping fantasy of hopium either.

Many people have this horribly skewed one-sided perception of Russia, just like they have the inverse of Ukraine. This entire NATO vs BRICS, west vs east nonsense is two forms of submissive imperialism fighting over a minutiae of ideological differences. They all still serve the jew and the genocide of White Slavic men in a brother war suits them all just fine.

Unlike what others may say on here, they do not kill themselves because of the Azov, who are a minority percentage of the Ukrainian military personnel having a cruel reputation. They kill themselves because they are ideologically primed to do this as part of the military strategy of sending meat waves with the hopes that the enemy runs out of bullets, bombs, missiles, and shells before they run out of bodies. It is very similar to Stalin's strategies of not one step back. War to the last Russian. When the Koreans are all used up, they'll send in the Chinese, the Indians, more Africans, and the rest of the Asiatics in the steppe countries, and they have billions of those. The professional Russian army was mostly routed in 2022. The people they're sending in now are just meat. I don't know what Russian commanders and military intelligence use to convince these people to follow through with the instructions of sucide but life out there on the war front is absolutely shitty. They have to drink water from dirty puddles, shelter is almost non-existent, and so many patrols are strafed by drones and aerial attacks. The situation out there is degrading with each passing day. The western support for Ukraine is also designed to dwindle down the population of Russian men so that the Kalergi plan intensifies in Eastern Europe.

Ask a Russian nationalist about all of this, if you can still find one who is not in jail. You are right that if we are not there personally what do any of us know? That goes for me just as it goes for anyone who spreads hopium here or who pushes that this war is necessary. This war is absolutely unnecessary and anyone who argues against that it is necessary might as well be a Kalergi pawn.

You're watching vids from who knows where, from who knows when, regarding soldiers who may or may not have been on the frontlines of Ukraine. Soldiers commit suicide at high rates in every country, especially America, and it's almost always due to the stresses of war.

You seriously need to use a bit of critical thinking when you ingest FAFO propaganda off 4chan. I'll pray for you and others like you who are so easily deceived.
 
The problem with engaging with the “hyper-competent Jews stage-manage and control every single facet of modern life” take is that it’s non-falsifiable to the point of absurdity.

It's actually really easy to falsify the "Talmuds control everyone" nonsense.

If Talmuds really benifited from starting wars for no reason, so they can depopulate Whites, why don't they start more wars inside of Europe? Obviously it's because they control Europe, and no longer need wars there.

Talmuds only start wars when they need to conquer. Once it's conquered, all history, both recent and ancient, shows there is no need for war. After WW2 the Talmuds owned Europe and there hasn't been a war in Europe since.

The war against Russia right now is because the Talmuds don't control it. Plainly obvious, yet for some reason a lot of people have such deeply ingrained hatred of Russia, most likely from the USSR days, they cannot bear to admit Russia is a far more free and Christian place than America is.
 
Several falsehoods in this and other posts you have made:

1- Ignoring documented harrowing treatments of Russian POWs by the Ukrainians, including shooting them in the legs and having them bleed to death. That is the only reason Russian soldiers would want to commit suicide. Russia has a large number of Ukrainian POWs and would gladly exchange them for Russian POWs if the current Ukrainian military culture wasn't so ideologically fanatical as to kill off Russian POWs.

2- The idea that Russia and China are under Rothschild banking control. That's a narrative that is being pushed by GAE glowies and propagandized relays. It is an especially dumb narrative not just in terms of China, but also for Russia, which is more independent today than it ever was since 1917. That is the reason why NATO has been relentless in its Russia/Putin vilifying campaign, this war is about extending and preserving the GAE.


3- The notion that Russia is throwing "meat waves" at Ukraine, and that their leadership doesn't care about human lives, and hasn't bent over backwards to avert this war or to minimize the loss of both Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians. If Putin didn't care about his soldiers, he would have long mobilized a million plus soldiers and ordered costly "big arrow" offensives into Ukraine.

Cooper you kvetch about Azov and NATO like a broken record. You are stuck in the maze and can't see the truth on the outside.

You think that one side is untouchable in its morality while the other is completely filthy, this is a falsehood. They are both stains on this world. Why do you care about the alleged treatment of Russian POWs by Ukrainians from a couple videos released two years ago? That is not the reason why they started committing suicide en masse. There are plenty of videos of Russian POWs not being killed or tortured.

Russia and China are under communist jew ideology, even with their pretenses of "nationalism." Why would glowies be interested in shining a light on their true bosses by pointing out the disproportionate jewish influence over the current Russian government and outright control over sectors of their society? What exactly is Russia independent of in your mind? They're not free from jewish control. If they were they would be naming the jew, but they don't.

Lengthy jail sentences for anyone who dares to offend the jew in Russia, you will never see sentences like these given to shitskins who attack White Russians.
"Russia: Lengthy jail sentences for rioters who targeted jews at Dagestan airport"
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/400594

Now more brown slaves are being imported to Russia ad nauseum:
"Indians Will Soon Be Able To Travel To Russia Without A Tourist Visa"
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/rus...avel-to-russia-without-a-tourist-visa-7259667

They're not fighting international jewry, they're just a proxy for it. This is what these people believe they are fighting, not israel and not the jew world order:
russiansenatorhatesgermans.webprussiaobsesseswithkillingwhites.webp

So explain to me what level of nth dimensional chess is this that they repeatedly say they are against White Nationalism, European Nationalism, and call all their enemies "nazis" instead of jews, have some of the strictest holohoax-denial laws in the world, yet are somehow free of international jewry and fighting against it? Don't cite stupid examples from israel, that little parking lot is not the center for world jewry.

@Samseau

The English translation is an edited version of the Russian one. It is not fake. I don't waste a nanosecond of my time on the chans, gab is unfiltered and so is telegram, there isn't a lot of "fakery" there that doesn't get caught and booted real fast. I am against this war and I'm not trying to make one side look bad while the other isn't. I have plenty of criticisms against Ukraine and their fake nationalist controlled groups that are only allowed to exist to keep propaganda going in a two-way brother war.

The only thing that crosses my mind if the instructions are not genuine is that someone made it to make fun of how the Russian troops are killing themselves. You're deflecting as usual. Yes soldiers everywhere commit suicide, but this is not about the trannified US DEI military where suicides are commonplace regardless of whether a war is ongoing or not. This is about the suicides in the Russian military.

This is a bit of a catch-22 because the soldiers are clearly Russian by their uniform insignias and the setting in all the videos yet if I post all of it here it will no doubt be flagged for gore. The way the suicides are captured on camera is not something that would be from the 2008 era, or even before the 2014 Maidan era. It's clear most of the footage is from 2023 and 2024, taken by small drones not UAV's like predators or reapers. The amount of troops in the Russian military committing suicide is clearly a realistic phenomenon of significance that people here are downplaying by saying "look over here at something else, stop noticing!"

The problem with engaging with the “hyper-competent Jews stage-manage and control every single facet of modern life” take is that it’s non-falsifiable to the point of absurdity.

Where do I say that jews are competent? 40% of them have schizophrenia and other mental illnesses that retard their intelligence, yet they are clever and manipulative to the nth degree. The swindle is in their DNA. They control the institutions of banking, media (the press), academia, medicine, government, and entertainment. The flow of information that trickles down from these six forms much of the daily thoughts and awareness of people everywhere. They don't need to control people's everyday actions when they have mastery of the top. The events that transpire underneath the tip of the pyramid are inconsequential to them. The masses of goyim are too stupid to think for themselves and without the Church as the central guiding light they are guided by the vices of the jew to the gutter instead of to the heavens.

It's actually really easy to falsify the "Talmuds control everyone" nonsense.

If Talmuds really benifited from starting wars for no reason, so they can depopulate Whites, why don't they start more wars inside of Europe? Obviously it's because they control Europe, and no longer need wars there.

The whole point of the jews plan for the Aryan race is not to depopulate it completely, they know they would not have any useful servants and slaves if they did this. They do not want negro slaves. They want coffee-colored mixed-race dumbed-down miscegenated slaves who will not resist them but be sentient enough to carry out basic tasks of servitude. They want the world brought down to their level and below. They import the third world to miscegenate with the Whites and they punish the Whites who refuse to mix with wars and death. The result of this war so far between Russia and Ukraine has been the influx of millions of non-Whites into Eastern Europe as more pureblood Slavs are killed.

Their rabbis preach it constantly that when Europe and Christianity are destroyed (the two are inseparable) only then will their excrementitious moschiach appear. A destroyed Europe is a miscegenated Europe. People forget this is a centennial game. The world wars ending in the favor of international jewry gave them the ability to slowly ferment their eschatologically-promised slaves through forced mixing.

Talmuds only start wars when they need to conquer. Once it's conquered, all history, both recent and ancient, shows there is no need for war. After WW2 the Talmuds owned Europe and there hasn't been a war in Europe since.

The war against Russia right now is because the Talmuds don't control it. Plainly obvious, yet for some reason a lot of people have such deeply ingrained hatred of Russia, most likely from the USSR days, they cannot bear to admit Russia is a far more free and Christian place than America is.

Your claim that there have been no wars in Europe since WW2 is demonstrably false. All of these conflicts happened post-WW2 inside Europe:

The Greek Civil War 1946-1949
The Cypress Emergnecy 1955-1959
The Troubles in Northern Ireland 1968-1998
Turkish invasion of Cyprus 1974
The Yugoslav Wars 1991 - 2001 (Slovenian Ten-Day War, Croatian War of Independence, Bosnian War, Kosovo War, Presevo Valley Insurgency, Macedonian conflict).
The Transnistria War 1990-1992
The first Nagoro-Karabakh war 1988-1994
The Chechen Wars 1994-1996

The war is not against Russia's government, but against the Russian people. People here have a hard time separating the government from the people. Are any of you guys are on actual Russian telegram channels to hear these people talk themselves about what is going on over there? My information is more accurate. Your unilingual disadvantages leaves you at a comprehension an echelon lower than those who understand the bigger picture inter-ethnically and historically.

Everything that dispels this fairytale image of Russia being the most based most Christian most honorable place is vehemently reviled as fake or GAE propaganda, that's how trapped some of you are in this little box of west vs east. The only real battle is jew vs you, and if you're atomized to the point of choosing a political bloc like NATO or BRICS over your own race of people, then you are already lost. I will post more in the globalism thread to further analyze this, because people are missing a lot and just focusing on the immediate opposing sides.
 
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