Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

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Droughtmeat said:
He only used the Kinzhal on Ukrainian targets, right?
Using them or Hazelbuns on an actual NATO target or city would definitely be a game changer because of how the general public would react. The focus would shift from convenient unquestioned Ukraine support to people asking themselves and the government if there is a way to stop this ASAP.

Very few western civilians are interested in an actual taking place right here with mass casualties.
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Yes, despite fake media reports that Putin is a madman dead-set on a full invasion and takeover of Europe, his actions have been calculated and restrained. Imagine if Russia had missiles in Canada and fired them on US soil. The warhawks in DC would go crazy.

The way he’s responding to the provocations is in a tit for tat manner. The other point from my research is that he’s facing pressure from the more hawkish and conservative Russians. They want stronger action.
 


FRANCE AUTHORIZES UKRAINE TO STRIKE RUSSIA WITH FRENCH MISSILES

France declared Ukraine has the right to defend itself, including using French SCALP missiles, against Russia.

“There’s no red line,” said a French spokesperson, reinforcing support for Ukraine’s strikes on targets like the reported North Korean-command post in Russia's Kursk region.

The spokesperson highlighted France’s military aid and training efforts for Ukraine, emphasizing international law supports Kyiv’s self-defense.

Source: Ministry for Europe and Foreign Affairs
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No 'red lines' in Ukraine support, French foreign minister tells BBC​

There are no "red lines" when it comes to support for Ukraine, the French Foreign Minister has told the BBC.

Jean-Noël Barrot said that Ukraine could fire French long-range missiles into Russia "in the logics of self defence", but would not confirm if French weapons had already been used.

"The principle has been set... our messages to President Zelensky have been well received," he said in an exclusive interview for Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.

French President Macron indicated France's willingness to allow its missiles to be fired into Russia earlier this year. But Barrot’s comments are significant, coming days after US and UK long-range missiles were used in that way for the first time.

Barrot, who held talks with Foreign Secretary David Lammy in London on Friday, said Western allies should not put any limits on support for Ukraine against Russia, and "not set and express red lines".

Asked if this could even mean French troops in combat he said: "We do not discard any option."

"We will support Ukraine as intensely and as long as necessary. Why? Because it is our security that is at stake. Each time the Russian army progresses by one square kilometre, the threat gets one square kilometre closer to Europe," he said.

Barrot hinted at inviting Ukraine to join Nato, as President Zelensky has requested. "We are open to extending an invitation, and so in our discussions with friends and allies, and friends and allies of Ukraine, we are working to get them to closer to our positions," Barrot said.
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No 'red lines' in Ukraine support, French foreign minister tells BBC

Jean-Noël Barrot speaks to Laura Kuenssberg after a week of escalation in Ukraine.
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Have the Ukrainians launched another ATACMS strike? There was a fake strike a few days ago, but folks are saying there was a legit one today:




Putin said he would give advance warning to nearby civilian populations.

I also am reading such different acounts of the Dnipro Yuzhmash attack. NYT had experts on saying it was a mere setback, nothing to fret over. Today, I saw a secondhand report that there are no longer any Yuzhmash deferrals for the UKR draft. All done. That would imply the place is done for. We are living in a normie vs. internet stovepipe reality still. Either the web has gone full wacko on this, or our leaders are just misrepresenting again.
 
Pointy Elbows said:
I also am reading such different acounts of the Dnipro Yuzhmash attack.
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Of course. This is the whole point. Confusion. Nowadays with AI, deep fakes, for-profit "news" and "reporting," social media attention whoring for likes (which equals money), if your best friend isn't on the ground reporting directly to you then you can assume that any information you are recieving has a 50/50 chance of being fake (as in not real).
 

BULLETIN: RUSSIA ISSUES NOTAM - KAPUSTIN YAR - TONIGHT 11:00 PM EST THRU 11-30-2024​

Russia has issued another Notice To Air Missions (NOTAM) closing its air space over Kapustin Yar. This was the area from which Russia launched its new Oreshnik Ballistic Missile at Ukraine last week.

Since that Russian launch, which utterly obliterated a Soviet-era munitions factory inside Ukraine, the Ukrainians have again used American-supplied ATACMS to launch at least THREE MORE attacks into Russia, primarily in the Kursk region.

It seems logical to believe Russia is going to launch again as response to Ukraine continuing to use west-supplied missiles to strike interior Russia.

One might also theorize that it won't be just one Oreshnik this time.

The NOTAM Begins on 11-27-2024 at 0400 UTC. We on the US East Coast are UTC -0500 hrs. So at 11:00 PM tonight (Nov. 26, 2024) here in the US, it will be 11-27 0400 UTC.

UPDATE 4:28 PM EST --

Russian Television is showing graphics to viewers describing how fast the Oreshnik Ballistic Missiles can hit "U.S. Bases in the Middle East" and "U.S. Bases in Alaska, Pearl Harbor, and in Guam" and "U.S. Minuteman III Missile Silos in Montana and North Dakota."
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BULLETIN: RUSSIA ISSUES NOTAM - KAPUSTIN YAR - TONIGHT 11:00 PM EST THRU 11-30-2024

Russia has issued another Notice To Air Missions (NOTAM) closing its air space over Kapustin Yar. This was the area from which Russia launched its...
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HOW FAST CAN THE ORESHNIK MISSILE HIT US BASES ACROSS THE WORLD?

1. Middle East

Distance and flight time from southern Russia:

US airbase in Kuwait: 2,100 km, 11 minutes;
US 5th Fleet Headquarters in Bahrain: 2,500 km, 12 minutes;
US Air Base in Qatar: 2,650 km, 13 minutes;
US Air Base in Djibouti: 4,100 km, 20 minutes.

2. Pacific and Alaska

Distance and flight time from Kamchatka:

Air Base in Alaska: 2,400 km, 12 minutes;
US Air Force and Navy Base in Guam: 4,500 km, 22 minutes;
US Air Force and Navy Bases in Pearl Harbor: 5,100 km, 25 minutes.

3. Minuteman III missile silos

Distance and flight time from Chukotka:

Minuteman III missile silos in Montana: 4,700 km, 23 minutes;
Minuteman III missile silos in Minot, North Dakota: 4,900 km, 24 minutes.
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magoo said:
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White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so it has enough troops to battle Russia

President Joe Biden's administration is urging Ukraine to quickly increase the size of its military by drafting more troops and revamping its mobilization laws to allow for the conscription of those as young as 18. A senior Biden administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity...
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Thought they were already scooping up any male between 16-50, whether they had all the usual arms and legs or not.
 



Russian President Vladimir Putin says that the Biden administration is doing everything in its power to escalate the confrontation with Russia and to make it more difficult for Trump to fix things.

However, he says that Trump will be able to navigate the conflict and find a solution.

"But as far as I see it, President Trump, a smart and experienced person, will come up with a solution, especially given that he has gone through quite an ordeal of fighting to reclaim the Oval Office."
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Cuchulainn said:
Thought they were already scooping up any male between 16-50, whether they had all the usual arms and legs or not.
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Take it with a grain of salt, because this is the internet. But, according to people I know currently living in the Ukraine, there still are ways for young males to avoid conscription.
 
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