Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War
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They create, they find problems, then offer the solutions to advance their agendas.
Syria will fall.
Whatever Turks were promised, best believe Jews will be most affected.
Whatever the Russians were promised for compromising their shekel pursuits in the region and ending up being controlled-opposition in Syria they’re not getting. If they got it then it was for nought.
What I do find interesting is how this relates to Russia. In incredible display of compassion for their people the Russian government is going to do digital ID and biometrics for migrants, among many things to solve the non-existent migrant crisis.
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I wonder what intelligence got them so spooked or maybe they’re just stirring the pot on purpose.
Seems they’re training the hell out of these central Asians. Nationalist sources in Russia say there’s going to be a civil war with the migrants since they don’t actually share a culture with them. Imagine that.
Regime change is still on the menu.
I know this is tabloid sensationalism but it’s interesting state media is ready to jump ship in case of a display of “weakness” we might soon witness with the negotiations.
Syria will fall.
Whatever Turks were promised, best believe Jews will be most affected.
Whatever the Russians were promised for compromising their shekel pursuits in the region and ending up being controlled-opposition in Syria they’re not getting. If they got it then it was for nought.
What I do find interesting is how this relates to Russia. In incredible display of compassion for their people the Russian government is going to do digital ID and biometrics for migrants, among many things to solve the non-existent migrant crisis.
Medvedev proposes radical changes to Russia’s migration policy
Russia’s approach to migration issues should reflect its citizens’ interests, according to Dmitry Medvedev
I wonder what intelligence got them so spooked or maybe they’re just stirring the pot on purpose.
Seems they’re training the hell out of these central Asians. Nationalist sources in Russia say there’s going to be a civil war with the migrants since they don’t actually share a culture with them. Imagine that.
Regime change is still on the menu.
I know this is tabloid sensationalism but it’s interesting state media is ready to jump ship in case of a display of “weakness” we might soon witness with the negotiations.
Putin’s top propagandist turns on tyrant & hints at ENDING despot’s reign
VLADIMIR Putin’s top propagandist has seemingly turned on the tyrant and hinted at ending his 25 years of “catastrophic” rule in Russia. Popular Russian TV host Vladimir Solovyov …
www.thesun.co.uk
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I think it's way too premature to predict the fall of Syria.They create, they find problems, then offer the solutions to advance their agendas.
Syria will fall.
Whatever Turks were promised, best believe Jews will be most affected.
Whatever the Russians were promised for compromising their shekel pursuits in the region and ending up being controlled-opposition in Syria they’re not getting. If they got it then it was for nought.
What I do find interesting is how this relates to Russia. In incredible display of compassion for their people the Russian government is going to do digital ID and biometrics for migrants, among many things to solve the non-existent migrant crisis.
Medvedev proposes radical changes to Russia’s migration policy
Russia’s approach to migration issues should reflect its citizens’ interests, according to Dmitry Medvedev
I wonder what intelligence got them so spooked or maybe they’re just stirring the pot on purpose.
Seems they’re training the hell out of these central Asians. Nationalist sources in Russia say there’s going to be a civil war with the migrants since they don’t actually share a culture with them. Imagine that.
Regime change is still on the menu.
I know this is tabloid sensationalism but it’s interesting state media is ready to jump ship in case of a display of “weakness” we might soon witness with the negotiations.
Putin’s top propagandist turns on tyrant & hints at ENDING despot’s reign
VLADIMIR Putin’s top propagandist has seemingly turned on the tyrant and hinted at ending his 25 years of “catastrophic” rule in Russia. Popular Russian TV host Vladimir Solovyov …www.thesun.co.uk
Russia should never have trusted Erdogan, and they are learning again the painful way. Also, Russia did not do enough since 2020 to help Syria economically to compensate for US Sanctions and the US stealing its oil. Syria's economic and social situation has steadily degraded over the years.
However, Syria is of crucial strategic importance to both Russia and Iran. I don't think they will let it fall.
Saying Syria will fall after no more than 48-72 hours of rebel success is not a very farsighted view of the situation. Maybe Syria will fall, though I would be surprised if after investing in Syria's defense for nine years Russia simply allowed them to fall, in addition to Iran, in addition to the Syrians themselves, who have held off the rebels for thirteen years now. The Syrians have been fighting for thirteen years, and you think that because the rebels have launched one surprise offensive that has gained ground in its first days, the Syrians are just going to roll over and play dead, and give up everything they won in thirteen years of war? It's very reminiscent so far of Ukrainian offensives actually. The Ukrainians launch a surprise offensive in a poorly defended area, rely on rapid mobility to create disarray and exploit any breach to the maximum, and informationally exploit any gained ground for propaganda effect to the absolute maximum. The Ukrainians have had two major battles like this: the Kharkov offensive of 2022 and the Kursk offensive of 2024. Though it took much longer in 2022 for Russia to get its act together, both of these Ukrainian breakthroughs were eventually ground down and halted without changing the overarching trajectory of the conflict. The 2024 Ukrainian offensive was especially unimpressive; it took Russia only about 3-4 days to halt essentially all Ukrainian gains and then gradually begin to reverse them.They create, they find problems, then offer the solutions to advance their agendas.
Syria will fall.
Whatever Turks were promised, best believe Jews will be most affected.
Whatever the Russians were promised for compromising their shekel pursuits in the region and ending up being controlled-opposition in Syria they’re not getting. If they got it then it was for nought.
What I do find interesting is how this relates to Russia. In incredible display of compassion for their people the Russian government is going to do digital ID and biometrics for migrants, among many things to solve the non-existent migrant crisis.
Medvedev proposes radical changes to Russia’s migration policy
Russia’s approach to migration issues should reflect its citizens’ interests, according to Dmitry Medvedev
I wonder what intelligence got them so spooked or maybe they’re just stirring the pot on purpose.
Seems they’re training the hell out of these central Asians. Nationalist sources in Russia say there’s going to be a civil war with the migrants since they don’t actually share a culture with them. Imagine that.
Regime change is still on the menu.
I know this is tabloid sensationalism but it’s interesting state media is ready to jump ship in case of a display of “weakness” we might soon witness with the negotiations.
Putin’s top propagandist turns on tyrant & hints at ENDING despot’s reign
VLADIMIR Putin’s top propagandist has seemingly turned on the tyrant and hinted at ending his 25 years of “catastrophic” rule in Russia. Popular Russian TV host Vladimir Solovyov …www.thesun.co.uk
If the Syrian rebels do actually take Aleppo, which right now looks feasible, that will be a major victory for them. But this is only the opening salvo of this new phase of the Syrian War.
Also, nobody in Russia believes there is going to be a civil war with Central Asian migrants. This idea would be a joke to practically anybody in Russia. That is on par with saying that America is about to fall into a civil war because the Hispanics are going to rise up and seize power. Except the Hispanics in America are a much, much larger group than migrants in Russia.
Yea I'd compare to a civil war breaking out in Southern European cities after violent attacks by digital nomads on the local population.
Russia has a 2.5 year SMO as a result of deceitful Minsk agreements. Western signatories admitted the agreements were shams.
Now, Russia is also fighting in Syria, after multiple signed agreements to "freeze" the previous conflict. The fight is much too large to have not had a lot of financial and logistical planning (plenty of evidence of it). Again, it was all a ploy, but one expects as much in the ME.
At stake is Russia's prospective buffer zone in EE, a historical warmwater port at Crimea, and the only truly overseas warmwater and air bases Russia has in the middle east. It's a "stretch their resources" fight now. Ukraine war has been an economy of force fight for Russia, drawing the west into a resource-intensive fight far away from home. The Syria fight now stretches Russia. Russia to be tested hard as the West can test it thru Proxy in the months to come.
So much for "freeze the line" proposals, no matter who offers it. If Putin accepts such, it means his well is running dry. That, or he might "freeze the line" in Syria, hoping to finish Ukraine before he returns to the Syria project, playing the deceit card himself. I don't see the West accepting a freeze in Syria, though. Too much at stake, they know they are due for deceit, and there's a deep gene pool of willing jihadis to string this out.
Now, Russia is also fighting in Syria, after multiple signed agreements to "freeze" the previous conflict. The fight is much too large to have not had a lot of financial and logistical planning (plenty of evidence of it). Again, it was all a ploy, but one expects as much in the ME.
At stake is Russia's prospective buffer zone in EE, a historical warmwater port at Crimea, and the only truly overseas warmwater and air bases Russia has in the middle east. It's a "stretch their resources" fight now. Ukraine war has been an economy of force fight for Russia, drawing the west into a resource-intensive fight far away from home. The Syria fight now stretches Russia. Russia to be tested hard as the West can test it thru Proxy in the months to come.
So much for "freeze the line" proposals, no matter who offers it. If Putin accepts such, it means his well is running dry. That, or he might "freeze the line" in Syria, hoping to finish Ukraine before he returns to the Syria project, playing the deceit card himself. I don't see the West accepting a freeze in Syria, though. Too much at stake, they know they are due for deceit, and there's a deep gene pool of willing jihadis to string this out.
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Heritage
Globohomo forces Romania to re-do elections because anti Ukraine war candidate won
You will keep voting and we will keep counting until globohomo likes the election result.
www.bbc.com
You will keep voting and we will keep counting until globohomo likes the election result.
Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round
The move comes after allegations of Russian influence via social media on the first round of voting.
www.bbc.com
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He "benefitted from a mass influence operation" that's just called "propaganda" or essentially marketing. Every party or candidate will convince voters to vote for them. But somehow it's only an issue when non left wing parties do it.Globohomo forces Romania to re-do elections because anti Ukraine war candidate won
You will keep voting and we will keep counting until globohomo likes the election result.
Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round
The move comes after allegations of Russian influence via social media on the first round of voting.
Voters are expected to vote for conservative parties without being informed about those parties' intentions beforehand. It's hypocrisy at its finest.
People should notice the logic here. No doubt they made up the "mass influence operation", but even if we assume that there was such a thing, they're not even saying that there was "misinformation". They're literally just implying, as you say, that this candidate obtained some extra marketing boost he wasn't entitled to. So, by implication, the people are morons who were completely seduced by being exposed to this marginal amount of marketing such that they completely reversed their voting intentions. So we're supposed to both believe that democracy is the best possible system and also that the decision-making capability of the average man and woman is so fickle and illogical that they can be duped into changing their intentions via a marginal boost from a TikTok campaign, and in such numbers that completely the "wrong" person has won the first round (and was on course to win the Presidency in the 2nd round). And as such, the establishment needs to step in and cancel the election. What a useless/clueless electorate and, by extension, what an unfit-for-purpose system we have if its built on the religious conviction that the will of the electorate is sacrosanct.
Even more mindblowing, no one considers the "marketing boost" (propaganda) that establishment candidates have received for decades from being the incumbents at every election and completely dominating the mainstream media (not to mention all the other state levers they have openly and freely wielded to ensure they stay in control). That's not an unfair advantage, but some hypothetical extra exposure on TikTok for a man that doesn't even have his own political party has crossed a line.
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Caduceus
Heritage
Trump has commented on the Syria situation directly in a long tweet, while claiming at the same time that Russia has lost 600,000 soldiers in the Ukraine war. Wonder where he got that figure.
"Opposition fighters in Syria, in an unprecedented move, have totally taken over numerous cities, in a highly coordinated offensive, and are now on the outskirts of Damascus, obviously preparing to make a very big move toward taking out Assad. Russia, because they are so tied up in Ukraine, and with the loss there of over 600,000 soldiers, seems incapable of stopping this literal march through Syria, a country they have protected for years. This is where former President Obama refused to honor his commitment of protecting the RED LINE IN THE SAND, and all hell broke out, with Russia stepping in. But now they are, like possibly Assad himself, being forced out, and it may actually be the best thing that can happen to them. There was never much of a benefit in Syria for Russia, other than to make Obama look really stupid. In any event, Syria is a mess, but is not our friend, & THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS NOT OUR FIGHT. LET IT PLAY OUT. DO NOT GET INVOLVED!"
"Opposition fighters in Syria, in an unprecedented move, have totally taken over numerous cities, in a highly coordinated offensive, and are now on the outskirts of Damascus, obviously preparing to make a very big move toward taking out Assad. Russia, because they are so tied up in Ukraine, and with the loss there of over 600,000 soldiers, seems incapable of stopping this literal march through Syria, a country they have protected for years. This is where former President Obama refused to honor his commitment of protecting the RED LINE IN THE SAND, and all hell broke out, with Russia stepping in. But now they are, like possibly Assad himself, being forced out, and it may actually be the best thing that can happen to them. There was never much of a benefit in Syria for Russia, other than to make Obama look really stupid. In any event, Syria is a mess, but is not our friend, & THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS NOT OUR FIGHT. LET IT PLAY OUT. DO NOT GET INVOLVED!"
As far as I can tell, the claim comes from the SBR. That in turn means our IC has a "source" and they then use that source as a basis to say "it is believed that".
It's a sleight of hand that allows them to pass off the claim as fact without most people noticing the trick.
It's a sleight of hand that allows them to pass off the claim as fact without most people noticing the trick.
Even that obviously Ukrainian-influenced claim that Russia has lost 600,000 troops includes wounded, and with a basic application of a 3-1 wounded-to-killed ratio, that would mean Russia has lost 150,000 killed. That number is still heavily exaggerated, which we know because it simply makes no sense in relation to how many total Russian troops have served in the Ukraine. Those numbers would imply Russia losing up to 50% casualties in killed and wounded, which is simply absurd for an army that is both holding the line in every sector and gaining decent ground in the southern Donbass.
But what I find remarkable about this is that, even if we suspend reality and assume Russia has actually lost 150,000 killed etc., that would mean that Russia is actually.... still winning the war. Ukraine's losses would have to be five times less than Russia in order to break even, just in terms of the population proportion. In Mr. Trump's bizarre claim of Russia losing 600,000 troops, he also claimed Ukraine has lost 400,000 troops. If that's true, Ukraine would be the country losing demographically by far.
But what I find remarkable about this is that, even if we suspend reality and assume Russia has actually lost 150,000 killed etc., that would mean that Russia is actually.... still winning the war. Ukraine's losses would have to be five times less than Russia in order to break even, just in terms of the population proportion. In Mr. Trump's bizarre claim of Russia losing 600,000 troops, he also claimed Ukraine has lost 400,000 troops. If that's true, Ukraine would be the country losing demographically by far.
ABC News reporting that Ukraine has lost roughly 1M men DEAD in this war, with several hundred K that have lost limbs (no information provided on other Wounded). Traditionally, there are 3-5 wounded for every 1 dead soldier.
I remember some time ago reading that the traditional rates of WIA:KIA are off in this war. Men are often left to die on the battlefield as the fairly stagnant and hot lines prevent evacuation. Also, I read that the war is employing such high firepower and accuracy that successful attacks are just more lethal than in previous wars. No idea if this is all true. Historians will have to figure that out.
Also noteworthy: This is ABC Normie news, admitting such figures as only RussiaRusssiaRussia loons would previously utter. Something is up.
I remember some time ago reading that the traditional rates of WIA:KIA are off in this war. Men are often left to die on the battlefield as the fairly stagnant and hot lines prevent evacuation. Also, I read that the war is employing such high firepower and accuracy that successful attacks are just more lethal than in previous wars. No idea if this is all true. Historians will have to figure that out.
Also noteworthy: This is ABC Normie news, admitting such figures as only RussiaRusssiaRussia loons would previously utter. Something is up.