Elon Musk Thread

I have a rather logical thought...

And it's a question really...

There is a lot of H1B abuse. That needs to be gutted. Completely.

There is also a lot of H1B holders that have added excellent value to the USA. Elon included.

Why can't both things be true at once?

Why can't we reform and address the abuse and encourage the valuable immigration by stronger vetting?

Isn't this common sense?

Or do we want to replace one DEI system with another DEI system?
Because you would have to believe and trust in the same system and the same government that has already shown to be abusing the system.

Most of the world is working against the natives and they will seize any opportunity to corrupt the system. Its better to avoid the situation entirely thereby leaving no opening at all. And the trust has been severely damaged already is what most are probably thinking.
 
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The big irony in all of this is that Musk comes from South Africa.

A country that used to be rich, respected and prosperous, and then got slowly completely destroyed once they abolished racial segregation in the 1990s, and let blacks run the whole thing.

Musk of all people should know better.
 
No one will understand quite how it feels to do as much and get attacked because of my identity which I have no control over. Actually, I guess Elon and Vivek do; more Elon.
Yeah I get you may be feeling a certain way about this issue given your background. But, if you could try and set that aside for a moment and see what we're up against here you might understand the strong reaction a little better.

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Countries are not sports teams. They are not economic zones. The United States of America is not a vessel for a South African trinket salesman to increase his personal wealth from 400 billion to 600 billion next year, at the expense of the descendants of the people who built this country off their own blood sweat and tears.

The thing is though, even if it were a sports team, we still have the greatest minds and top tier talent, right here. They would just simply have to pay them accordingly, which obviously they don't want to do, and what half of this whole issue is about; greed. The other half is something must more sinister, but I'm sure you already know about that as well. You've been around for a long time. You've already heard all of this.
 
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You know what, my wife has said India was one of the countries she'd like to visit someday, I should get her to watch some of those traveler videos.

I hear this more than you’d think from white gitls, about wanting to visit India. They are looking for their mysa moment,

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This is how white girls envision a trip to India

Call it a white savior complex or whatever you want
 
It’s funny how history repeats itself. How many times , going back to Ancient Rome or even earlier, with rich oligarchs (or aristocrats), trying to cut corners on labor costs by bringing in foreign ringers. Already rich, but trying to ring out even more wealth by using slaves or serfs or indentured servants or mercenaries or whatever you want to call them. As if rootless cosmopolitanism can keep a society together. These oligarchs miss the big picture.

Their wealth is built upon a platform of a society. The institutions, the infrastructure, the rule of law..they need all that for their businesses to succeed. Musk for example, couldn’t build Tesla or SpaceX in India, despite armies of pajeets there willing to work 80 hours a week, and as Vivek so desired, raised to be worker drones with no social life.

No they need America. The need American citizens who have skin in the game. They need a nation. Not a land with rootless cosmopolitans. Economic cogs. The whole thing would collapse on them if they got what they wanted. They can’t see the forest from the trees.
 
The United States was supposed to be a melting pot of European blood.
Not initially.

It was meant for English (and Scots)

The founding fathers didn't even consider Germans in their group as they spoke a different language. The same fears of lack of assimilation was expressed by good ole Ben Franklin.

In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other Colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not [in My Opinion] be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious. The French who watch all advantages, are now [themselves] making a German settlement back of us in the Ilinoes Country, and by means of those Germans they may in time come to an understanding with ours, and indeed in the last war our Germans shewed a general disposition that seems to bode us no good; for when the English who were not Quakers, alarmed by the danger arising from the defenceless state of our Country entered unanimously into an Association within this Government and the lower Countries [Counties] raised armed and Disciplined [near] 10,000 men, the Germans except a very few in proportion to their numbers refused to engage in it, giving out one among another, and even in print, that if they were quiet the French should they take the Country would not molest them; at the same time abusing the Philadelphians for fitting out Privateers against the Enemy; and representing the trouble hazard and Expence of defending the Province, as a greater inconvenience than any that might be expected from a change of Government. Yet I am not for refusing entirely to admit them into our Colonies: all that seems to be necessary is, to distribute them more equally, mix them with the English, establish English Schools where they are now too thick settled, and take some care to prevent the practice lately fallen into by some of the Ship Owners, of sweeping the German Goals to make up the number of their Passengers. I say I am not against the Admission of Germans in general, for they have their Virtues, their industry and frugality is exemplary; They are excellent husbandmen and contribute greatly to the improvement of a Country.

The term melting pot comes from a play by Israel Zangwill.


I'll let you dive through that and see what his message was.
 
My real estate agent is brown (Armenian and Persian, like Roosh) he said Indians are the worst, and can’t stand dealing with them. They are rude, and try to screw you over. He said white Americans are the best, honest and straight forward and a pleasure to to do business with.

Indians can be nice... if they want something from you for nothing.

This is from my personal experience from training these muts in my profession and then them selling my guidance to their own "people".
 
The United States was supposed to be a melting pot of European blood.
Correct and the H1B visa could and should be used for that, there are many wealthy white Christian minorities all over the world that USA could be importing but they not. For example, Im a straight white Christian male, would you guys in USA be upset if I came to live there, with my own money and created my own business and respected your people, heritage and America?
 
Indians can be nice... if they want something from you for nothing.

This is from my personal experience from training these muts in my profession and then them selling my guidance to their own "people".
At one time when I was having trouble with my indian customers always asking for a discount, I solved the problem by adding an extra 10% to all their prices, then I would let them bargain 10% off and I would get my original price👌
 
Correct and the H1B visa could and should be used for that, there are many wealthy white Christian minorities all over the world that USA could be importing but they not. For example, Im a straight white Christian male, would you guys in USA be upset if I came to live there, with my own money and created my own business and respected your people, heritage and America?

What about me and my wife and 4 blonde Christian children?

Like I've stated before in another thread, I tried to get into the USA but got denied.

The game is rigged
 
Indians can be nice... if they want something from you for nothing.

This is from my personal experience from training these muts in my profession and then them selling my guidance to their own "people".
At one time when I was having trouble with my indian customers always asking for a discount, I solved the problem by adding an extra 10% to all their prices, the I would let them bargain 10% off and I would get my original price, its just a psycological thing
 
Correct and the H1B visa could and should be used for that, there are many wealthy white Christian minorities all over the world that USA could be importing but they not. For example, Im a straight white Christian male, would you guys in USA be upset if I came to live there, with my own money and created my own business and respected your people, heritage and America?
I would like a law that allows anyone of European Christian heritage in Africa to immigrate to the US.

But that’d be raysiss right?

But we have a law that allows any Jew in Eastern Europe to immigrate to USA. That’s why we have so many Russian Jews in the USA.

Heck, we even give them money. Really roll out the red carpet for Jews.

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Correct and the H1B visa could and should be used for that, there are many wealthy white Christian minorities all over the world that USA could be importing but they not. For example, Im a straight white Christian male, would you guys in USA be upset if I came to live there, with my own money and created my own business and respected your people, heritage and America?
I have no problem with white, Christian immigrants, especially from the anglosphere.

This would even help offset all the brown people moving here, and the lower birth rates from urban white liberals.

But the American worker should still be priority #1.
 
Not initially.

It was meant for English (and Scots)

The founding fathers didn't even consider Germans in their group as they spoke a different language. The same fears of lack of assimilation was expressed by good ole Ben Franklin.



The term melting pot comes from a play by Israel Zangwill.


I'll let you dive through that and see what his message was.
A podcast, that sadly no longer exists, did some deep dives on the founding fathers and what you say of Ben Franklin is true. Others felt any "White man" meaning men of western Europe, of good character, would make a good American. And example of this would be Lafayette and his heroism during the revolutionary war.

All in all, we can now genetically see the difference in an Anglo-Saxon and a Swede is almost 0. And that is why they can assimilate and form a new "race" called "Americans", which are descendants from Europe and the settlers and pioneers of this once dangerous wildland.
 
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