Man, you can tell Andrew Torba has been just sitting and waiting to blast this fraud for a long time. He must be loving this opportunity.
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Elon has no idea what he has stepped into. The little chicken has never been in a fight in his life and he thinks he can take on seasoned vets.
For what would a racist require repentance any more than a non-racist?
Here’s what I’d do:
These absolutists are dead weight. They hand the left ammunition to justify their hate for the right. Cut them loose and focus on being smart, strategic, and effective.
Fix the H1B Mess
- Tear down the H1B system and go after recruiting agencies and consulting firms that abuse it with hardcore legal action. No exceptions.
- Make sure the best talent stays in the U.S. or comes here, so we’re not losing out to other countries.
- Overhaul the education system to reward excellence and stop catering to mediocrity.
- Scrap affirmative action and break the stranglehold of accreditation oligarchies in colleges.
Keep It Real
- Respect hardworking immigrants: Don’t bash high-IQ immigrants who came here, busted their asses, and made this country better.
- Face reality: Skilled labor isn’t endless in the U.S., and let’s be honest—many Americans aren’t lining up to take those jobs.
- Back those who assimilate: Don’t single out groups like Indians or Hispanics who’ve integrated and even supported MAGA. Many are on our side (kick the H1B abusers out or make an example as I said above)
Stop the Elon Hate
- Quit trashing Elon Musk. Without him, we’d be stuck for years. He’s been a game-changer, and we should give him credit.
Final Word
The outrage against H1B has turned into a full-blown war on all legal immigration, and it’s killing the movement. Instead of being the party against illegal immigration, it’s veering into extremist territory, attacking people like Elon and Vivek who’ve been huge assets.These absolutists are dead weight. They hand the left ammunition to justify their hate for the right. Cut them loose and focus on being smart, strategic, and effective.
We should weed out the H1B fetishism. Musk and Ramaswamy brought dishonest arguments on this matter.
This. It's not hard to see where Musk, Vivek and the Tech Bros stand on the H1B issue. They threw out the Americans/MAGAs are "racists" card for being defensive in protecting H1B abusers, which we have every right to call out their B.S.
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Edit II. Like I said, the H1B abusers-supporters got caught so they threw out the "racists" card in defensive mode.
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This country put a man on the moon while most the world was still trying to figure out water systems that ancient Rome has 2000 years ago. The last thing this country needs is anyone from any where else. Elon is a fraud and a phony and has now been exposed. His little satanic outfit on Halloween a few years ago makes complete sense now. He is just a puppet of the satanic elites to play the role of destroying Europeans forever.
What this country needs is to reign in finance. As long as finance workers are vastly overpaid, anyone with an IQ over 110 will go into finance and not engineering. Until this is done, China and Russia will continue to leave us in the dust and importing more "engineers" will not solve the problem.
Fair take for sure. The ammunition that will be used is the racist angle, trying to say MAGA hates all immigrants. While there are a minority of extremists who do, I personally don’t and most right wingers I know in real life don’t either. I’ve been working in technical fields for years and many Indian and Chinese folks keep their heads down, work, and raise families. I have no issue with them, they invite me over to hang all the time.
However, Musk and fraud by big tech and large corporations are not beyond criticism. Musk gave MAGA a voice that’s true, but being the richest man does not exempt you from being wrong on certain issues and this is one of them. If he and Vivek are proposing bringing in top talent, I.e. genius level who assimilate and love America, I doubt most would have an issue with that. But history has proven otherwise, and instead the visa system has been abused, American workers displaced, and loopholes exploited by large corporations who want to raise their stock price a few dollars. I’ve walked into companies where the staff at that location was 100% Chinese and Mandarin was spoken more often than English. Do you think the DEI enforcers are banging on their doors forcing them to hire a white guy? No. So their tribalism is on full display, and that is a reason so many people are angry.
The base instinct here is simply greed, and CEOs and C-suite executives will do what they can to keep the gravy train rolling. You can not count on them to do the right thing, at least most of the time, so the system needs to be revamped.
I’m calling BS on the argument that Musk and Vivek went “racist” or “anti-American.” Both of them are 100% behind the Trump agenda. Elon spent more money than anyone to support Trump, and they’ve worked tirelessly to advance the movement. It’s a bad argument, plain and simple, and it’s not going to age well. But if that’s the hill you want to die on, be my guest.
That said, I’ll take this back if—and only if—they refuse to go after H1B and legal immigration abuse. Immigration abuse needs to end, period.
Vivek’s delivery wasn’t perfect in how he handled his response, but let’s not pretend Nikki Haley scored a win here. He handed her a loss on the debate stage, but since people don’t know better, she gets away with cheap shots. I mean, Nikki Haley, who truly is an identity politics queen is who you have on your side of the argument.
Vivek and Elon are among the smartest minds we’ve got, and we’re lucky to have them. If anyone seriously wants to “export” them to India or Germany, that’s just stupid.
I’ve seen firsthand what immigrants—my family included—put on the line to build a better life and make this country stronger. Here’s the part some people might not like: a lot of the white Americans around me don’t have the guts to stand up for anything meaningful, locally or nationally. They talk big on social media and at meetings, but when it’s time to act, I end up leading the charge. Me, a lowly immigrant who "doesn't belong here." I’ve gotten better at it, so I don’t mind, but I’m not going to let people who can’t get their own act together tell me my opinion matters less. That said, I can't pretend it doesn't sting as to how ungrateful people can be.
When it comes to hiring, I’m not bringing in a lazy American, and I’m not bringing in a lazy Indian either. What really gets me is when people from my own culture discriminate against white or Black Americans, especially in the IT sector. That’s unacceptable, and they need to go.
Again, disregarding the complexity of the society we live in, only to be driven by a linear emotional overreaching anti-immigrant argument isn't going to be a winning strategy.
I’ll just leave it at that for now.
That said, I’ll take this back if—and only if—they refuse to go after H1B and legal immigration abuse. Immigration abuse needs to end, period.
Vivek’s delivery wasn’t perfect in how he handled his response, but let’s not pretend Nikki Haley scored a win here. He handed her a loss on the debate stage, but since people don’t know better, she gets away with cheap shots. I mean, Nikki Haley, who truly is an identity politics queen is who you have on your side of the argument.
Vivek and Elon are among the smartest minds we’ve got, and we’re lucky to have them. If anyone seriously wants to “export” them to India or Germany, that’s just stupid.
I’ve seen firsthand what immigrants—my family included—put on the line to build a better life and make this country stronger. Here’s the part some people might not like: a lot of the white Americans around me don’t have the guts to stand up for anything meaningful, locally or nationally. They talk big on social media and at meetings, but when it’s time to act, I end up leading the charge. Me, a lowly immigrant who "doesn't belong here." I’ve gotten better at it, so I don’t mind, but I’m not going to let people who can’t get their own act together tell me my opinion matters less. That said, I can't pretend it doesn't sting as to how ungrateful people can be.
When it comes to hiring, I’m not bringing in a lazy American, and I’m not bringing in a lazy Indian either. What really gets me is when people from my own culture discriminate against white or Black Americans, especially in the IT sector. That’s unacceptable, and they need to go.
Again, disregarding the complexity of the society we live in, only to be driven by a linear emotional overreaching anti-immigrant argument isn't going to be a winning strategy.
I’ll just leave it at that for now.
No one, including Musk or Ramaswamy has said it doesn't need to be weeded out.
There is literally posts and videos of Ramaswamy calling out H1B abuse.
But his argument about American culture was just delivered in an ill manner. That's not dishonesty. It's just bad delivery.
Don't take this personally but the U.S. and other white countries aren't economic zones whos purpose is to create shareholder value, America is the home of Americans, Europe is the home of Europeans. If there is a labor shortage so be it, it's not worth it to eradicate white people to keep the GDP up. Assimilation has never worked, even in the case of European migration to America, the Germans, Irish and Italians did change the U.S. to look more like those countries. Culture stems from race, you can't separate the two. In this there is no difference between legal or illegal immigration.
Elon Musk bought X for his personal interest. Elon, David Sacks, Peter Thiel and other tech billionaires donated huge amounts to the Trump campaign to get precisely things like this through. They are still liberal just not fully leftist, most of them are immigrants, many jewish and gay, none of them are nationalist and certainly not Christian. They aren't ideologically aligned with MAGA, they just want cheap labor for their companies.
Peter Thiel mentored J.D. Vance and started his political career with a 15 million check to run for Senate and secured his endorsement from Trump for V.P.. Peter Thiel also cofounded Palantir (an intelligence contractor, works for CIA, Mossad etc). with Alex Karp, a jewish man who says that his company is responsible for stopping the far right in Europe. David Sacks was also an early investor in Palantir (and space X ). They then all have common roots in Paypal, hence the name Paypal mafia,
None of these tech bros have helped us at all, Elon's take over of X was to win the election for Trump, now he has banned a bunch of accounts and removed the checkmarks from others and changed the algorithm to reduce the reach of accounts that are blocked a lot ( controversial posters i.e. right wing).
Elon, Thiel an Sacks are all south african immigrants btw.
I see nothing of value of either of these two clowns, other than to mouthpiece for the satanic elites. Vivek should be in prison for the scam he pulled with his pharma drug. Elon's Tesla is nothing more than overpriced govt. junk that is being badly outperformed by Chinese engineers. This was the best country in the world, and then we let clowns like this come in and now it is a disgusting mess. That isn't a coincidence, and the fact they can't admit this obvious fact that brining more people here isn't the answer, because we have been doing it for decades on end and the result is destruction of the once best country in the world, is telling.
And anyone who is honest and/or has an IQ over 100 already knows the very best engineers don't want to come to the disgusting USA. They will make more money and have far more respect in their own countries. Which are quickly becoming nicer than the USA.
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It just seems a bit disingenuous to act as though the US "needs" Indians and Chinese after decades of affirmative action, DEI, and other assorted "righting of the wrongs of the Patriarchy" have told White men they're not needed anymore.
Now we're acting as though the descendants of the White Christian men who built this nation, the greatest superpower the world's ever seen, just don't have what it takes.
I don't buy it.
Now we're acting as though the descendants of the White Christian men who built this nation, the greatest superpower the world's ever seen, just don't have what it takes.
I don't buy it.
These people are bringing up the couple thousand German rocket scientists that operation paperclip brought in, as if that's remotely equivalent to bringing in millions of retarded dysgenic Indians to do things like cold calling, and tech work that barely requires a 4-week course to learn how to do.
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Ramadamaswamy is just another Indian scammer who will say anything to curry favor to get ahead.
His critique of American culture was wrong and just demonstrates he’s a foreigner at heart. A paperwork American, not a real one.
He thinks having a “tiger mom” culture where kids just grind out their studies 16 hours a day is the winning formula, and that social activities including sports is a distraction. No, America has always valued producing well rounded individuals. Yes, our smartest could eke out a little bit higher scores on tests if they gave up having a life. But that’s not our way, and the proof is in the pudding. I’ve seen too many Chinese skinny fat soy boys raised by tiger moms and know they are not the future. I’ve seen too many stinky bug eyed no social skills dot Indians to know they don’t add value to this country. We don’t want them.
I wouldn't go this far.
My X feed over the last 4 days has been 90% posts pushing back hard against Musk and H-1Bs, so there can't be that much censorship.
AFAICT, it's mostly Laura Loomer who got her check removed (which still shouldn't have happened, but it's not widespread).
As someone else pointed out, if Kamala wins, we're debating amnesty for 20 million illegals, rather than visa for 85k workers/year.
Elon is on the wrong side of this (though he has backtracked and made some concessions over the last day), but he got Trump elected and provided platform that allows 95% open discourse. Both of those are still huge wins.
Pun unintended lol
Did he? I am not glued to twitter, what concessions did Elon make about immigration, h1b visas and flooding the USA with panjeets?
Sorry, I don't know if it was intentional, but this made me laugh.
