Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

I swear American Politics is like watching WWF back in the 90's as a kid. The Mega Powers - Hulk Hogan & Macho Man Randy Savage split - now you're wondering if you should like Miss Elizabeth or not?
Or is this just all theatre?


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I'm seeing the cheesy speech highlights from last night's GOP convention, and I think it might be cheesier and eye rolling than the WWF ever was, LOL.
 
Probably need a "criticism of the 2024 GOP convention" thread. Sort of like when the podcast I was listening to said that people need to be on the lookout for pop-up Trump events where all the criminals and rappers were welcomed and celebrated, LOL.




I don't like rapper chicks or Hindu prayers... But harmeet Dillon is a pretty well known Republican advocate and GOP chairwomen of California.

The fact, despite my dislike of the optics, is that these folks being more voters through their influence to the campaign.
 
It's just a completely meaningless conversation. Even though there are tons of reasons someone might miss it's a very doable thing to hit a target as big as Trump from that distance. You can't just say "recoil" like a magical explanation.

But the take home point here is; had Trump been killed, you (and pro-Trump people here) would have been hammering home the point that this was a planned assassination by the deep state and a coup attempt. (which I'm not saying, I'm open to different alternatives) But I guess you can't admit that either. You adjust the narrative to what fits you and refuse to think about things a little bit.
He did hit him, didn't you see the news?
 
Probably need a "criticism of the 2024 GOP convention" thread. Sort of like when the podcast I was listening to said that people need to be on the lookout for pop-up Trump events where all the criminals and rappers were welcomed and celebrated, LOL.




Did you catch that part where she referred to a Sikh diety as the one, true God?

A few decades from now, who knows if Hinduism will take over Christianity's place in the Republican sphere.

With all the momentum they had, they could've gotten away with pushing a true right-wing agenda. Remember 2016?: I am a nationalist.

This looked like something that could've passed for a DNC back in 2008.
 
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Your haven't read the the background, nor did the guy replying to my post. Have no interest in talking to pro-Trump people here at all. It's just lazy, dumb-ass, low IQ bullying from a few posters here. You're twisting reality like a MSM Jew. All the personal attacks where against me to start off with. I didn't go off topic first, they did. They brake the forum rules without anything happening, we get banned etc. Just piss off!

PS; Won't be on the forum for a good while. Thx for the support from the rational members here! If you can't see that this is a setup (all things considered) you're lacking perspective, and you'll realize the mistake in about 3-4 years. That's my last word on that matter.

There were worse theories than yours said in this place who turned out being true.

If Trump is a freemason. He is an esoteric lunatic. And everything is possible.

Three snipers were inside the building were the patsy shoot from.

 
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Wait... there's guys on here with links to Cernovich and the Trump campaign?

If so, that explains a lot.

Trump Lover Syndrome in full effect... Samseau, Cobra, Choppa, any of you guys know Cernovich or ever been involved in the Trump campaign?

Can anyone confirm this? And if so, have they been posting in the Trump threads without identifying themselves as being deeply connected to these personalities and institutions? If so, what a betrayal, and I'll be seeing you brothers on the other side.


Mike cf used to post on the rvf back in 2013-2014, he had his books and own website and concentrated on that and stopped posting.

I was at Cernovichs celebration party in Orange County in 2016 after Trump won along with maybe a dozen or so guys from the Los Angeles rvf crew. He signed my copy of gorilla mindset. That’s the only time I met him

In the run up to the 2016 election I emailed him a meme or photo and he replied “thanks” andposted it on his twitter, I tried that a couple more times but he didn’t respond . I haven’t tried contacting him in 8 years . But Mike cf definitely had ties to the old website (about 12+ years ago)
and I asked yesterday if someone still had a way to get ahold of him .

At one point I think Donald Trump Jr was following Mike cf on twitter.

I did not think this was some sort of secret.

Edit I could have swore at least one or two of you did active campaign for Trump in 2016 or 2020 but I’m not the person to ask? Samsesu? Again this isn’t some sort of secret .
 
Mike cf used to post on the rvf back in 2013-2014, he had his books and own website and concentrated on that and stopped posting.

I was at Cernovichs celebration party in Orange County in 2016 after Trump won along with maybe a dozen or so guys from the Los Angeles rvf crew. He signed my copy of gorilla mindset. That’s the only time I met him

In the run up to the 2016 election I emailed him a meme or photo and he replied “thanks” andposted it on his twitter, I tried that a couple more times but he didn’t respond . I haven’t tried contacting him in 8 years . But Mike cf definitely had ties to the old website (about 12+ years ago)
and I asked yesterday if someone still had a way to get ahold of him .

I did not think this was some sort of secret.
It's not. I though everyone knew this?
 
At one point I think Donald Trump Jr was following Mike cf on twitter.
Donald Trump Jr!?! I remember MikeCF but I did not realize he grew into such a big boy and became "Cernovich."
I did not think this was some sort of secret.
It's not. I though everyone knew this?
I could have swore at least one or two of you did active campaign for Trump in 2016 or 2020 but I’m not the person to ask? Samsesu? Again this isn’t some sort of secret .
Okay, I'm out of the loop, my bad. I did not realize we had such heavy hitters that are that involved with all of this. That explains a lot to me with the extreme push back on Trump criticism. If you're making money off of his existence or you're that emotionally invested into his campaign and brand of politics then of course you're going to defend him tooth and nail. But this is out of my element, and I'm definitely over the line. I have no interest in being this close to all of this. I just thought we we're a bunch of nobodies hanging out on the internet shooting the shit, I did not realize this was Nam.

It's been fun fellas, there's been a lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-you's, and new shit is always coming to light. Peace brothers and may God be with all of you.
 
*shrugs* I’m not even saying anything that’s even close to news, and while Mike cf grew his twitter account and was very active posting on twitter for election news in 2016 and 2020, to the mainstream world he is a “discredited conspiracy theorist”, who is occasionally on Alex Jones programs.

I would not say he’s a household name and again it’s been a decade since he was active in the rvf forums. But if you’re not comfortable with the history here and want to post somewhere else, that’s your decision of course, I’d say you’re over reacting but again you do you


Edit I could have sworn Mike cf got sick of Trump some years ago and no longer supported him? But I’m not sure? I don’t follow twitter ,
 
Did you catch that part where she referred to a Sikh diety as the one, true God?

A few decades from now, who knows if Hinduism will take over Christianity's place in the Republican sphere.

With all the momentum they had, they could've gotten away with pushing a true right-wing agenda. Remember 2016?: I am a nationalist.

This looked like something that could've passed for a DNC back in 2008.

Back when we were kids we had a phrase called being a front runner. It was derogatory in the sense that these people had little to no loyalty. If say the Yankees were in first place, they loved them. If the Yankees sucked, we’ll they hated them. It was different than respecting another team when they weee successful. Normal, stable people would respect the other teams, but they still had their team they always loved no matter how they did. I don’t even watch baseball or sports that much, but this is a clear example and applies to politics as well.

A lot of these people changing opinions about Trump or becoming Republicucks, are seeing him as a better path forward for their own / their cultures political gain than the Democrats. Once they get theirs and ‘make it’ they will simply just continue to help their own because they are tribal. Indians and Asians and on a personal level I get along with them great are the perfect replacement class. They are hardworking, intelligent, polite, and take orders well because of their culture. But again very tribal, they will put their own first and most have little loyalty to the country. They aren’t as aggressive as Muslims in pushing their religious ideology though, and are more peaceful in nature. There’s no populism or nationalism here, just another way for the Republican donor class to make more money. Of course the Trump worshipers will never admit that.
 
Back when we were kids we had a phrase called being a front runner. It was derogatory in the sense that these people had little to no loyalty. If say the Yankees were in first place, they loved them. If the Yankees sucked, we’ll they hated them. It was different than respecting another team when they weee successful. Normal, stable people would respect the other teams, but they still had their team they always loved no matter how they did. I don’t even watch baseball or sports that much, but this is a clear example and applies to politics as well.

A lot of these people changing opinions about Trump or becoming Republicucks, are seeing him as a better path forward for their own / their cultures political gain than the Democrats. Once they get theirs and ‘make it’ they will simply just continue to help their own because they are tribal. Indians and Asians and on a personal level I get along with them great are the perfect replacement class. They are hardworking, intelligent, polite, and take orders well because of their culture. But again very tribal, they will put their own first and most have little loyalty to the country. They aren’t as aggressive as Muslims in pushing their religious ideology though, and are more peaceful in nature. There’s no populism or nationalism here, just another way for the Republican donor class to make more money. Of course the Trump worshipers will never admit that.

Sportsball doesn't have consequence to your actual life
 


We all knew about the LGBT fundraiser that Melania held at Maralago a few months ago, but I didn't know that they held another one at Trump Tower only a week ago. They must feel that the marginal gay vote that they will get must outweigh the alienation of their Christian base, or they haven't even thought that far ahead and just take their Christian base for granted.

My prediction is that this trend will continue. Christianity will increasingly be pushed out of the sphere of political influence and will become increasingly marginalized.

One thing I do know, only Trump could get away with this bull. Any other Republican would've been laughed out of the room.
 
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