Donald Trump: Criticism & Debate Thread

"Draining the swamp"...



Yeah this lady is trash. I remember Tucker at least had the balls to call her and her husband out when he was still on Fox about the stock dumping / insider trading. They all do it so I’m not surprised at all. Remember Trump’s debate with Hillary? Dave Chappelle has a great sketch on it. Something like Trump told us yes we’re doing all the shady corrupt stuff you think we are!

Anyway, have to look at good picks like the Border Czar, Kash Patel, etc.
 
Yeah this lady is trash. I remember Tucker at least had the balls to call her and her husband out when he was still on Fox about the stock dumping / insider trading. They all do it so I’m not surprised at all. Remember Trump’s debate with Hillary? Dave Chappelle has a great sketch on it. Something like Trump told us yes we’re doing all the shady corrupt stuff you think we are!

Anyway, have to look at good picks like the Border Czar, Kash Patel, etc.
Chappelle's opening monologue on SNL hit so hard, it was the best description I have seen to what is going on in the USA, without going full red pill. He kept it pretty common sense, yet blue pilled, so normies could start to figure things out.
 
This is going to end in disaster if Trump doesn't change course early in his administration.



Well see. There’s no point in analyzing or even thinking about what Trump says anymore. Just see how it plays out and hope for the best.

If people haven’t figured out he flip flops a lot and embellishes claims by now, I don’t know what to tell them. I knew it from growing up in the US and observing his public persona, then it was cemented with his first term.

The mistake is taking what these politicians say as the literal truth when most of the times it’s a game or negotiating tactic.
 
Well see. There’s no point in analyzing or even thinking about what Trump says anymore. Just see how it plays out and hope for the best.

If people haven’t figured out he flip flops a lot and embellishes claims by now, I don’t know what to tell them. I knew it from growing up in the US and observing his public persona, then it was cemented with his first term.

The mistake is taking what these politicians say as the literal truth when most of the times it’s a game or negotiating tactic.
The big question for me, right now is, is his persona even natural, or is it something he was taught by Roy Cohn and it is all just one big fake act to play this role for this very purpose. I guess it doesn't matter, because too many are now aware of the anti-White/anti-Christian Right-Wing game for them to keep playing it much longer.
 
If people haven’t figured out he flip flops a lot and embellishes claims by now, I don’t know what to tell them. I knew it from growing up in the US and observing his public persona, then it was cemented with his first term.
I remember different? Most of the things he promised, his 'advisors' and generals convinced him weren't possible or practical, and he got a lot of stuff done. There was a website listing everything he did I think?
 
I remember different? Most of the things he promised, his 'advisors' and generals convinced him weren't possible or practical, and he got a lot of stuff done. There was a website listing everything he did I think?

Even if true who picked those people? He discusses this when he was on JRE, the difficulty of picking good staff. While that’s true especially for someone who is new to DC, some picks were straight boneheaded moves (John Bolton for example)

Then on JRE he tried to spin it as Bolton being a good pick because foreign adversaries were scared of him. Which is not how it went down.

Let’s see how it goes this time, the picks so far seem better.
 
Since truth is banned from the Trump & Vance administration thread in favor of hopium, the exposure will continue here.

Trump appoints the jeet whore who called "Wagyu beef the one true god" at the RNC to be the assistant attorney general for civil rights at the DOJ.

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Why is this an issue? She's be serving in a civil rights attny role and not woke and a long time Trump loyalist. And we'll known figure in the Republican party.

Yeah the religious Indian thing is cringe and all that sure... But what impact are you expecting her to have on your life?

She will be vastly better than what we are dealing with in the alternative and this is a nothing burger posts.

This looks like more of a reason to shit on the Orange man on the inverse of the hopium
 
Why is this an issue? She's be serving in a civil rights attny role and not woke and a long time Trump loyalist. And we'll known figure in the Republican party.

Yeah the religious Indian thing is cringe and all that sure... But what impact are you expecting her to have on your life?

She will be vastly better than what we are dealing with in the alternative and this is a nothing burger posts.

This looks like more of a reason to shit on the Orange man on the inverse of the hopium
Its a woman and a jeet. Trump's administration has already got Bob set to run the glowstick department and now Vagene is set to run all legal representation from state and federal officials.

Why can't he find an honest White Christian man to fill this position? This is political purchasing power in action. None of these people make sense together. Fake "Christian" zionists, Hindus, homosexuals, jews, occult satan-worshiping brain chip billionaires who suddenly "favor Christianity," it only makes sense as a continuation of kalergi's work. It's worth showing how ridiculous this whole system keeps becoming as the circus gets cheaper.
 
Its a woman and a jeet. Trump's administration has already got Bob set to run the glowstick department and now Vagene is set to run all legal representation from state and federal officials.

Why can't he find an honest White Christian man to fill this position? This is political purchasing power in action. None of these people make sense together. Fake "Christian" zionists, Hindus, homosexuals, jews, occult satan-worshiping brain chip billionaires who suddenly "favor Christianity," it only makes sense as a continuation of kalergi's work. It's worth showing how ridiculous this whole system keeps becoming as the circus gets cheaper.
This and it is taking the last energy of White Christianity in the west and draining it into "as long as they come legally" and "everybody equal" and "White Nationalism is evil, but everyone else is allowed to have home nations" and also "Israel is our greatest ally".

I think it is too little and too late to try this song and dance again, so all in all, it will fall flat when they push this messaging, and the economy barely improves and crime and poverty continue to increase. So, I am not concerned about it, the young men are waking up and the show isn't going to work any longer.

If I were Russia or Iran, I would have people on the ground in the USA to capture the true emotions of the people here to fully understand just how much support this govt. has for a war with them. Hopefully for them, they do, and they know that this "as long as they come legally" song and dance isn't working on the fighting aged men.
 
Since truth is banned from the Trump & Vance administration thread in favor of hopium, the exposure will continue here.

Trump appoints the jeet whore who called "Wagyu beef the one true god" at the RNC to be the assistant attorney general for civil rights at the DOJ.

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Already a huge upgrade over the current Asst. Attorney General:


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Notice how you are unable to look at both sides of the argument? Because you're an ideological, one-sided thinker who is only searching for info to fit into your biases. This is why your posts have to go in here, you're only interested in debate and not dialogue.

As for the pick: her being Sikh is still probably better than a Christian Zionist, sadly, but she's just the assistant. The actual Attorney General is who matters. This woman seems more like a token to appear tolerant, and her being a loyalist at least shows she won't sabotage the Trump admin. It's a neutral pick and way better than who we have now.
 
Already a huge upgrade over the current Asst. Attorney General:


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Notice how you are unable to look at both sides of the argument? Because you're an ideological, one-sided thinker who is only searching for info to fit into your biases. This is why your posts have to go in here, you're only interested in debate and not dialogue.

As for the pick: her being Sikh is still probably better than a Christian Zionist, sadly, but she's just the assistant. The actual Attorney General is who matters. This woman seems more like a token to appear tolerant, and her being a loyalist at least shows she won't sabotage the Trump admin. It's a neutral pick and way better than who we have now.
Yeesh what a mug. That's not much of an upgrade, it's like trading in a pair of old, beat-up sneakers for a brand-new pair that still smell like they’ve been left in a gym bag for a week.

I don't know where you're seeing one-sidedness. The democrats are not spared from criticism nor from consequences in the future for the evil they have done and continue to do. I leave no stone unturned with who to call out. They're all bad. Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils does not serve the Church or White Christian civilization in the long run. All must be held accountable.

Shaming works on people, their faculties run on a basis of getting away with anything because shame has no societally controlling safeguard the way it use to, but the more people do it by calling out and shaming everyone for their corruption, be it a democrat or a republican, the more it will override the behavior of those who behave shamelessly, DEI wokesters and ZOG sellouts alike. It has little to no effect now but that will not be a permanent variable. Situations must be manifested where we do not have to choose the lesser each time, the choice that merely staves off the executioners axe for another few months or years. That requires things we all know must happen but are hesitant to plan as communities.
 
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Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils does not serve the Church or White Christian civilization in the long run. All must be held accountable.

False, and this contradicts the teachings of Christ. This is not the Kingdom of Heaven. Evil will always exist in this world. Therefore we must choose between the lesser of evils.

We do not live in Heaven. We do not live in Hell. Things will never be perfect, nor will they be utterly horrible. This is what God has willed and there is nothing we can do to change this fundamental reality.
 
False, and this contradicts the teachings of Christ. This is not the Kingdom of Heaven. Evil will always exist in this world. Therefore we must choose between the lesser of evils.

We do not live in Heaven. We do not live in Hell. Things will never be perfect, nor will they be utterly horrible. This is what God has willed and there is nothing we can do to change this fundamental reality.
No, it is not false.

This is quite a neophyte take on the spiritual state of the world. Refusing to participate and refusing to choose in the lesser of two evils most certainly follows the teachings of Christ, whereas participation and active volition in them is the one that does not follow His teachings.

To choose any form of evil, even a lesser one, is to participate in its perpetuation. This violates the moral principle articulated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church: "One may never do evil so that good may result from it" (CCC 1756).

Earth is a place of pilgrimage and testing, where Christians are called to grow in virtue and prepare for eternal life in Heaven. Compromising with evil undermines this purpose. Matthew 5:48: "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Jesus does not lower the standard for Christians just because Earth is imperfect. Your argument presumes that because perfection is unattainable on Earth, lesser evils must be tolerated. This is a pragmatic view, not a Christian one.

St. Paul explicitly condemns this reasoning: "And why not do evil that good may come? As some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just" (Romans 3:8). Choosing any evil, even under pragmatic circumstances, betrays fidelity to the Gospel's call to absolute righteousness. Practical decisions sometimes involve mitigating harm, they must not lead to active endorsement of evil. Compromise in morality erodes the foundation of Christian civilization.

The Church’s role is not only to engage with society but also to hold all leaders accountable, regardless of lesser or greater evil. Incrementalism cannot replace prophetic witness.

What do the saints say?

St. John Chrysostom: "A small evil tolerated opens the door to greater ones. He who seeks Heaven must walk steadfastly in the way of Christ, not the crooked paths of expediency."

St. Augustine described Earth as a "battlefield of the two cities" the City of God and the City of Man. While Christians live amid this struggle, they are called to align with the City of God, rejecting even partial allegiance to the City of Man.

St. Basil the Great: "Compromise with sin, no matter how small, is the first step toward the soul’s destruction." St. Basil also said "He who deliberately chooses evil for the sake of some temporal good denies the eternal good."

St. Thomas Aquinas argued that unjust laws or leaders are not binding in conscience: "Human law has the nature of law insofar as it is in accord with right reason, and therefore derives from the eternal law. But when a law is contrary to reason, it is called an unjust law, and has the character not of law but of violence" (Summa Theologica, I-II, q. 93, a. 3). By extension we as Christians should not endorse unjust leaders and their unjust servants even as a lesser evil.

The true betrayal of Christ lies in choosing expediency over fidelity, even in a fallen world. By refusing to choose evil, no matter the circumstances, we align ourselves with the eternal Kingdom of God and fulfill our calling as followers of Christ.
 
False, and this contradicts the teachings of Christ. This is not the Kingdom of Heaven. Evil will always exist in this world. Therefore we must choose between the lesser of evils.

We do not live in Heaven. We do not live in Hell. Things will never be perfect, nor will they be utterly horrible. This is what God has willed and there is nothing we can do to change this fundamental reality.
While I agree on the perspective that we should be thankful for every good thing that God has given us, and that I am 117% certain that he is using Donald Trump to mend things in the world.

It is however true, that we all possess free will, so in rejecting the evils that exist and being intolerant of sin, we become capable of making things better.

As long as we do so in a Christ like manner and are willing to suffer for it as Christ and the Apostles did, we can make things better. However, giving up and surrendering at the sight of the world's sin will help no-one, certainly not ourselves.

For afterall, even if all these great evils disappeared, there would still appear evil in the world to replace it. But surely each souls chance of salvation would be greater.

We should be discerning and point out flaws that we see, but we should not let ourselves imagine evils that are not there.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

1 John 1:8
King James Version
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ephesians 6:11
King James Version
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

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No, it is not false.

This is quite a neophyte take on the spiritual state of the world. Refusing to participate and refusing to choose in the lesser of two evils most certainly follows the teachings of Christ, whereas participation and active volition in them is the one that does not follow His teachings.

To choose any form of evil, even a lesser one, is to participate in its perpetuation. This violates the moral principle articulated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church: "One may never do evil so that good may result from it" (CCC 1756).

Earth is a place of pilgrimage and testing, where Christians are called to grow in virtue and prepare for eternal life in Heaven. Compromising with evil undermines this purpose. Matthew 5:48: "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Jesus does not lower the standard for Christians just because Earth is imperfect. Your argument presumes that because perfection is unattainable on Earth, lesser evils must be tolerated. This is a pragmatic view, not a Christian one.

St. Paul explicitly condemns this reasoning: "And why not do evil that good may come? As some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just" (Romans 3:8). Choosing any evil, even under pragmatic circumstances, betrays fidelity to the Gospel's call to absolute righteousness. Practical decisions sometimes involve mitigating harm, they must not lead to active endorsement of evil. Compromise in morality erodes the foundation of Christian civilization.

The Church’s role is not only to engage with society but also to hold all leaders accountable, regardless of lesser or greater evil. Incrementalism cannot replace prophetic witness.

What do the saints say?

St. John Chrysostom: "A small evil tolerated opens the door to greater ones. He who seeks Heaven must walk steadfastly in the way of Christ, not the crooked paths of expediency."

St. Augustine described Earth as a "battlefield of the two cities" the City of God and the City of Man. While Christians live amid this struggle, they are called to align with the City of God, rejecting even partial allegiance to the City of Man.

St. Basil the Great: "Compromise with sin, no matter how small, is the first step toward the soul’s destruction." St. Basil also said "He who deliberately chooses evil for the sake of some temporal good denies the eternal good."

St. Thomas Aquinas argued that unjust laws or leaders are not binding in conscience: "Human law has the nature of law insofar as it is in accord with right reason, and therefore derives from the eternal law. But when a law is contrary to reason, it is called an unjust law, and has the character not of law but of violence" (Summa Theologica, I-II, q. 93, a. 3). By extension we as Christians should not endorse unjust leaders and their unjust servants even as a lesser evil.

The true betrayal of Christ lies in choosing expediency over fidelity, even in a fallen world. By refusing to choose evil, no matter the circumstances, we align ourselves with the eternal Kingdom of God and fulfill our calling as followers of Christ.

So you're saying your vision for the future of saving the white race and the *~*adamic spirit*~* and all that jazz is a pacifist, self-sacrificing one then? No bloodshed inflicted or anything? Cause righteous violence is a perfect example of a necessary evil in many cases and I'm quite sure I've seen you advocate for exactly that.
 
So you're saying your vision for the future of saving the white race and the *~*adamic spirit*~* and all that jazz is a pacifist, self-sacrificing one then? No bloodshed inflicted or anything? Cause righteous violence is a perfect example of a necessary evil in many cases and I'm quite sure I've seen you advocate for exactly that.
Righteous violence is not considered an evil at all, it's considered a duty by God. You're confusing the nature of righteous defense versus political compromise.

Righteous defense is a moral and divinely-sanctioned response to immediate and existential threats against Christian civilization, the faith, and the people. It arises from a duty to protect God’s creation, the Church, and the faithful, aligning with God’s justice and the natural law. Historical examples of this are the Crusades, the defense of Christian Europe at Tours, and many other battles like Vienna, and all the martyrs who resisted forced conversions.

Participating in a corrupt system by voting for morally compromised leaders (puppets of anti-Christian agendas) is an entirely different matter. This form of compromise amounts to consenting to be ruled by forces that oppose Christian teachings and the moral order, overtly (democrats) or subversively (republicans). Unlike righteous defense, such choices perpetuate systemic corruption, erode integrity, and normalize incremental evils. The only way forward is as a revolutionary, the most uncomfortable lifestyle that 99% of Aryan Christians are not ready for.

Righteous violence is not evil when it is sanctioned by God or directed toward the protection of His law and people. The Bible explicitly supports the use of force in certain circumstances:

Psalm 94:16: “Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against evildoers?”

Ecclesiastes 3:8: "A time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace."


Psalm 146:3: “Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save.” Trusting corrupt politicians, even as "lesser evils," contradicts the Biblical directive to rely on God’s providence and moral law.

Ezekiel 22:27-28: “Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain.” Supporting corrupt leaders (puppets or prostitutes) entrenches unjust systems and aligns with the actions of those condemned in Scripture.

Psalm 5:5-6: “You hate all who do wrong; you destroy those who tell lies.”

Psalm 139:21-22: “Do I not hate those who hate You, Lord? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You? I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies.”


We are called to love sinners and desire their repentance, but this does not extend to tolerating or enabling those who persist in rebellion against God and His laws.

Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 2265): “Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others.” The future of the race and faith constitutes a responsibility entrusted to Christians by God.

St. Thomas Aquinas: “Hatred of the enemies of God is a form of charity because it is rooted in a desire for justice and the preservation of the common good” (Summa Theologica, II-II, Q. 25, Art. 6).

True defiance involves rejecting systems that oppose God’s law and working toward their replacement with structures rooted in divine justice.

St. Basil the Great: “The spirit of compromise is the enemy of truth. Only in the uncompromising defense of the faith does the will of God prevail.”

Under the UN definition, genocide includes not just outright killing but also:

"Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a group.
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
Forcibly transferring children or undermining a group’s ability to sustain itself."


The sharp decline in the European population from 35% of the global population in 1900 to under 8% today, combined with policies encouraging mass migration, cultural dissolution, as well as marginalization and outright proscription of European identity, fits these criteria holistically. Every major government and organization is guilty of carrying out a generational genocide against Europeans, rebranded as "White" in the 20th century. Christianity historically has always been intertwined with European identity and civilization. The erosion of one entails and ensures the erosion of the other. All their efforts to dilute European culture, heritage, and values undermine not only a racial or ethnic group but also the Christian moral and spiritual framework that has underpinned Western civilization for centuries.

Therefore since we are under this direct threat, any coordinated violence for self-preservation, though illegal and unthinkable by the jewish system that rules over us, is wholly in line with scripture, the councils of the Church, and God's own Word and therefore takes precedence over any quarreling of morality. The spiritually invalid talmudic world system that is currently in place does not dictate the morals of the day, and their infusion of lies into the Church the last couple centuries through their agents of subterfuge would have every Christian believe in ethnomasochism and letting the entire heathen world ransack them at their own expense. No, there is a fury building up and it has the righteous backing of God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit when it will be unleashed. When that is will be up to God. He works within each of us, and the more we pray, fast, tribe, and train, the closer that day comes when there will be no more pretenses. The mask is almost fully gone now from the devils who want us all dead.
 
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